From: hasen j <hasan.aljudy@gmail.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
git@vger.kernel.org, Erik Faye-Lund <kusmabite@googlemail.com>
Subject: Re: What should be the CRLF policy when win + Linux?
Date: Thu, 6 May 2010 14:00:58 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <h2x600158c31005061300tfe485e01x251ae20b22ef5b27@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.00.1005061009020.901@i5.linux-foundation.org>
On 6 May 2010 11:15, Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
>
>
> On Thu, 6 May 2010, hasen j wrote:
>>
>> I don't know all linux editors, but I've yet to see one that can't
>> handle CRLF endings.
>
> A _lot_ of UNIX editors will handle CRLF endings, but if you change a
> file, they often write the result back with _mixed_ endings. Some will
> also show the CR as '^M' or some other garbage at the end.
>
> A number of tools will also end up confused, including very fundamental
> things like "grep". Try this:
>
> echo -e "Hello\015" > f
> grep 'Hello$' f
>
> and notice how the grep does _not_ find the Hello at the end of the line,
> because grep sees another random character there (this might be
> unportable, I could easily imagine some versions of grep finding it).
>
> So I would strongly suggest against CRLF on UNIX. It really doesn't work
> very well, even if some tools will handle it to some limited degree.
>
> In short: having 'core.autocrlf' set will likely make it much more
> pleasant to work across different platforms.
>
> Linus
>
When I'm on windows, I prefer LF (unless the project already uses
CRLF, or it's outside my control).
VB is very windowsy; I *really* doubt most VB developers use (or even
know) grep, so I don't think it's a problem if a VB project
standardizes line endings to be CRLF.
My problem with autocrlf is that, well, it converts line endings in
the working directory to CRLF, even though I don't always want it to.
(most of the time, I don't).
The other problem is, git will get confused if you set autocrlf *after
the fact*; i.e. you already cloned and have the files checked out,
maybe even made some commits.
Overall, I ran into many awkward situations with autocrlf (and I can't
remember them now), but if you google you can find some of the issues
people are having.
The whole problem would go away if there was no crlf, and that's not
impossible: any decent text editor can read/write files with Unix line
endings.
I wasn't aware that Visual Studio doesn't have an easy way to have it
write LF endings by default; I'm sure there are addons to make that
easier. Plus most open source projects are not usually setup with VS
as the development environment anyway, so it's really not a big
problem.
So yeah, I think LF everywhere is the better way to go most of the time.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-05-06 20:01 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-05-05 10:01 What should be the CRLF policy when win + Linux? mat
2010-05-05 13:27 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2010-05-06 9:27 ` mat
2010-05-06 10:03 ` Erik Faye-Lund
2010-05-06 2:35 ` hasen j
2010-05-06 7:29 ` Wilbert van Dolleweerd
2010-05-06 15:34 ` hasen j
2010-05-06 17:15 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-05-06 17:26 ` Erik Faye-Lund
2010-05-06 20:00 ` hasen j [this message]
2010-05-06 20:23 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-05-06 20:40 ` Erik Faye-Lund
2010-05-06 22:14 ` hasen j
2010-05-06 23:25 ` Erik Faye-Lund
2010-05-18 15:13 ` Anthony W. Youngman
2010-05-06 22:27 ` [PATCH/RFC 0/3] Per-repository end-of-line normalization Eyvind Bernhardsen
2010-05-06 22:27 ` [PATCH/RFC 1/3] Add "auto-eol" attribute and "core.eolStyle" config variable Eyvind Bernhardsen
2010-05-06 22:27 ` [PATCH/RFC 2/3] Add tests for per-repository eol normalization Eyvind Bernhardsen
2010-05-06 22:27 ` [PATCH/RFC 3/3] Add " Eyvind Bernhardsen
2010-05-06 23:38 ` [PATCH/RFC 0/3] Per-repository end-of-line normalization Avery Pennarun
2010-05-06 23:54 ` Avery Pennarun
2010-05-07 8:45 ` Erik Faye-Lund
2010-05-07 16:33 ` Junio C Hamano
2010-05-07 16:57 ` Avery Pennarun
2010-05-07 17:10 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-05-07 19:02 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-05-07 19:11 ` Avery Pennarun
2010-05-07 19:16 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-05-07 19:35 ` Avery Pennarun
2010-05-07 19:45 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-05-07 19:58 ` Avery Pennarun
2010-05-07 20:06 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-05-07 20:17 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-05-07 20:42 ` Eyvind Bernhardsen
2010-05-07 20:57 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-05-07 21:17 ` Eyvind Bernhardsen
2010-05-07 21:23 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-05-07 21:30 ` Avery Pennarun
2010-05-07 21:37 ` Eyvind Bernhardsen
2010-05-07 21:58 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-05-07 21:54 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-05-07 22:14 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-05-07 22:34 ` Avery Pennarun
2010-05-07 22:54 ` hasen j
2010-05-07 23:18 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-05-07 23:47 ` hasen j
2010-05-07 23:50 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-05-08 0:19 ` hasen j
2010-05-08 0:33 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-05-08 1:39 ` hasen j
2010-05-08 1:49 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-05-08 2:49 ` hasen j
2010-05-08 3:31 ` Robert Buck
2010-05-08 3:45 ` Avery Pennarun
2010-05-08 10:36 ` hasen j
2010-05-08 11:36 ` Robert Buck
2010-05-08 3:34 ` Avery Pennarun
2010-05-08 0:31 ` Avery Pennarun
2010-05-07 22:19 ` Avery Pennarun
2010-05-08 20:49 ` Dmitry Potapov
2010-05-08 21:54 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-05-08 23:42 ` Dmitry Potapov
2010-05-09 7:49 ` Eyvind Bernhardsen
2010-05-09 10:35 ` Robert Buck
2010-05-07 20:58 ` Avery Pennarun
2010-05-07 19:23 ` Eyvind Bernhardsen
2010-05-07 19:31 ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-05-07 19:36 ` Avery Pennarun
2010-05-07 20:29 ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-05-07 21:00 ` Avery Pennarun
2010-05-07 21:12 ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-05-07 21:26 ` Avery Pennarun
2010-05-07 22:09 ` A Large Angry SCM
2010-05-07 22:10 ` Avery Pennarun
2010-05-07 19:40 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-05-07 20:32 ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-05-07 19:06 ` Junio C Hamano
2010-05-07 19:25 ` Eyvind Bernhardsen
2010-05-07 19:41 ` Finn Arne Gangstad
2010-05-07 20:06 ` Avery Pennarun
2010-05-07 20:11 ` Eyvind Bernhardsen
2010-05-07 7:15 ` What should be the CRLF policy when win + Linux? Gelonida
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