From: Jakub Narebski <jnareb@gmail.com>
To: Thore Husfeldt <thore.husfeldt@gmail.com>
Cc: Matthieu Moy <Matthieu.Moy@imag.fr>,
git@vger.kernel.org, gitster@pobox.com,
Jonathan Nieder <jrnieder@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 09/10] user-manual.txt: explain better the remote(-tracking) branch terms
Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2010 16:32:01 -0700 (PDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <m3bp6jjhhm.fsf@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9A09AA7C-BAE2-4571-8453-17CB3F3256D4@gmail.com>
Thore Husfeldt <thore.husfeldt@gmail.com> writes:
> On 23 Oct 2010, at 18:31, Matthieu Moy wrote:
> > Documentation/user-manual.txt | 9 +++++++++
> > 1 files changed, 9 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-)
> >
> > diff --git a/Documentation/user-manual.txt b/Documentation/user-manual.txt
> > index d70f3e0..02126f1 100644
> > --- a/Documentation/user-manual.txt
> > +++ b/Documentation/user-manual.txt
> > @@ -359,6 +359,11 @@ $ git branch -r
> > origin/todo
> > ------------------------------------------------
> >
> > +In this case, "origin" is called a remote repository, or "remote" for
> > +short. The branches of this repository are called "remote branches"
> > +from our point of view, and Git will maintain a copy of these
> > +branches, called "remote-tracking branches" in the local repository.
>
> No. Git does not "maintain a copy of [the remote]
> branches". Its exactly one of the pitfalls I fell into: that
> Git, automagically, puts the *current* state of the remote branch
> into remote/branchname, or at least updates it behind my back
> whenever it gets the chance.
So you don't like the word "maintain" here, is it? Perhaps "keep"
instead of "maintain" would be a better word?
I guess that we can also add the following explanation:
Those "remote-tracking branches" would be updated to the state of tracked
branches in remote repository on fetch.
> The Pro Git book goes as far as saying "theyre moved
> automatically whenever you do any network communication," which
> is extremely misleading. (And then it goes on: "Remote branches
> act as bookmarks to remind you where the branches on your remote
> repositories were the last time you connected to them." This is a
> good way of saying it, except that "remote branches" should be
> "remote-tracking branches,"
Right
> and "connected to them" could be more concrete.)
I guess that the word 'connected' is used here to avoid repetition.
But it is a bit unprecise: "git remote show <remote>" connects to remote
repository but does not update remote-tracking branches.
> Also note that the two following lines in user-manual.txt are plain
> wrong ("You cannot check out these remote-tracking branches, but you
> can examine them on a branch of your own, just as you would a tag").
This is simply outdated information, predating invention of detached
HEAD (also known as anonymous / unnamed branch). They are not _that_
wrong, as you don't checkout a remote-tracking branch: you checkout
_state_ of remote tracking branch, creating unnamed branch for that
(state marked in git-branch output as "(no branch)"). But I guess it
is too fine distinction (splitting hairs).
>
> I realise that it would be more constructive for me to suggest a
> concrete improvement, but Im not quite there yet. I would really
> like to see a good conceptualisation, with strong, versatile verbs,
> of the relationships between bobsstuff bob/master and Bobs master
Nevertheless your contributions, even those in the form of pointing
errors and inconsistences, are very welcome.
--
Jakub Narebski
Poland
ShadeHawk on #git
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-10-24 23:32 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 101+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-10-23 16:31 [PATCH 00/11] More consistant terminology ("remote-tracking branch", "not updated") Matthieu Moy
2010-10-23 16:31 ` [PATCH 01/10] Better "Changed but not updated" message in git-status Matthieu Moy
2010-10-23 18:13 ` Jonathan Nieder
2010-10-23 18:33 ` Matthieu Moy
2010-10-23 18:55 ` Jakub Narebski
2010-10-23 16:31 ` [PATCH 02/10] Remplace "remote tracking" with "remote-tracking" Matthieu Moy
2010-10-23 18:16 ` Jonathan Nieder
2010-10-23 18:31 ` Jonathan Nieder
2010-10-23 19:01 ` Matthieu Moy
2010-10-23 16:31 ` [PATCH 03/10] Change remote tracking to remote-tracking in non-trivial places Matthieu Moy
2010-10-23 18:44 ` Jonathan Nieder
2010-10-23 19:04 ` Matthieu Moy
2010-10-23 16:31 ` [PATCH 04/10] Change "tracking branch" to "remote-tracking branch" Matthieu Moy
2010-10-23 18:48 ` Jonathan Nieder
2010-10-28 1:55 ` Matthieu Moy
2010-10-23 16:31 ` [PATCH 05/10] Change "tracking branch" to "remote-tracking branch" in C code Matthieu Moy
2010-10-23 18:51 ` Jonathan Nieder
2010-10-26 22:15 ` Matthieu Moy
2010-10-23 16:31 ` [PATCH 06/10] Change incorrect uses of "remote branch" meaning "remote-tracking" Matthieu Moy
2010-10-23 16:31 ` [PATCH 07/10] Change incorrect "remote branch" to "remote tracking branch" in C code Matthieu Moy
2010-10-23 18:58 ` Jonathan Nieder
2010-10-23 19:19 ` Matthieu Moy
2010-10-23 16:31 ` [PATCH 08/10] Use 'remote-tracking branch' in generated merge messages Matthieu Moy
2010-10-23 19:04 ` Jonathan Nieder
2010-10-23 19:53 ` Matthieu Moy
2010-10-23 16:31 ` [PATCH 09/10] user-manual.txt: explain better the remote(-tracking) branch terms Matthieu Moy
2010-10-23 19:08 ` Jonathan Nieder
2010-10-23 19:34 ` Matthieu Moy
2010-10-24 14:47 ` Thore Husfeldt
2010-10-24 15:18 ` Jonathan Nieder
2010-10-24 23:32 ` Jakub Narebski [this message]
2010-10-26 3:11 ` Matthieu Moy
2010-10-26 4:16 ` Miles Bader
2010-10-23 16:31 ` [PATCH 10/10] git-branch.txt: mention --set-upstream as a way to change upstream configuration Matthieu Moy
2010-10-23 18:55 ` [PATCH 00/11] More consistant terminology ("remote-tracking branch", "not updated") Jakub Narebski
2010-10-23 19:11 ` Jonathan Nieder
2010-10-25 17:30 ` Matthieu Moy
2010-10-25 6:08 ` [PATCH v2 00/10] " Matthieu Moy
2010-10-25 6:08 ` [PATCH 01/10] Better "Changed but not updated" message in git-status Matthieu Moy
2010-10-25 6:08 ` [PATCH 02/10] Replace "remote tracking" with "remote-tracking" Matthieu Moy
2010-10-25 6:08 ` [PATCH 03/10] Change remote tracking to remote-tracking in non-trivial places Matthieu Moy
2010-10-25 6:08 ` [PATCH 04/10] Change "tracking branch" to "remote-tracking branch" Matthieu Moy
2010-10-25 6:08 ` [PATCH 05/10] Change "tracking branch" to "remote-tracking branch" in C code Matthieu Moy
2010-10-25 6:08 ` [PATCH 06/10] Change incorrect uses of "remote branch" meaning "remote-tracking" Matthieu Moy
2010-10-25 6:08 ` [PATCH 07/10] Change incorrect "remote branch" to "remote tracking branch" in C code Matthieu Moy
2010-10-25 6:08 ` [PATCH 08/10] Use 'remote-tracking branch' in generated merge messages Matthieu Moy
2010-10-25 6:08 ` [PATCH 09/10] user-manual.txt: explain better the remote(-tracking) branch terms Matthieu Moy
2010-10-26 6:07 ` Jay Soffian
2010-10-26 22:13 ` Matthieu Moy
2010-10-26 6:20 ` Jay Soffian
2010-10-27 0:01 ` Matthieu Moy
2010-10-27 0:06 ` [PATCH] " Matthieu Moy
2010-10-25 6:08 ` [PATCH 10/10] git-branch.txt: mention --set-upstream as a way to change upstream configuration Matthieu Moy
2010-10-25 17:52 ` [PATCH 00/11] More consistant terminology ("remote-tracking branch", "not updated") Drew Northup
2010-10-28 18:21 ` [PATCH 00/10 v3] " Matthieu Moy
2010-10-28 18:21 ` [PATCH 01/10] Better "Changed but not updated" message in git-status Matthieu Moy
2010-10-28 18:35 ` Jonathan Nieder
2010-10-28 21:46 ` Junio C Hamano
2010-10-28 22:09 ` Jonathan Nieder
2010-10-28 22:47 ` Matthieu Moy
2010-10-28 23:20 ` Junio C Hamano
2010-10-28 23:39 ` Matthieu Moy
2010-10-29 21:06 ` Drew Northup
2010-10-30 4:00 ` Matthieu Moy
2010-10-28 18:21 ` [PATCH 02/10] Replace "remote tracking" with "remote-tracking" Matthieu Moy
2010-10-28 19:52 ` Jonathan Nieder
2010-10-28 18:21 ` [PATCH 03/10] Change remote tracking to remote-tracking in non-trivial places Matthieu Moy
2010-10-28 18:39 ` Jonathan Nieder
2010-10-28 21:50 ` Matthieu Moy
2010-10-28 22:13 ` Jonathan Nieder
2010-10-28 22:40 ` Matthieu Moy
2010-10-29 17:26 ` Drew Northup
2010-10-28 18:21 ` [PATCH 04/10] Change "tracking branch" to "remote-tracking branch" Matthieu Moy
2010-10-28 19:56 ` Jonathan Nieder
2010-10-28 18:21 ` [PATCH 05/10] Change incorrect uses of "remote branch" meaning "remote-tracking" Matthieu Moy
2010-10-28 18:21 ` [PATCH 06/10] Change incorrect "remote branch" to "remote tracking branch" in C code Matthieu Moy
2010-10-28 19:13 ` Jonathan Nieder
2010-10-28 22:34 ` Matthieu Moy
2010-10-28 23:23 ` Jonathan Nieder
2010-10-28 18:21 ` [PATCH 07/10] Use 'remote-tracking branch' in generated merge messages Matthieu Moy
2010-10-28 18:21 ` [PATCH 08/10] user-manual.txt: explain better the remote(-tracking) branch terms Matthieu Moy
2010-10-28 19:42 ` Jonathan Nieder
2010-10-28 23:40 ` Matthieu Moy
2010-10-28 18:21 ` [PATCH 09/10] user-manual: remote-tracking can be checked out, with detached HEAD Matthieu Moy
2010-10-28 18:21 ` [PATCH 10/10] git-branch.txt: mention --set-upstream as a way to change upstream configuration Matthieu Moy
2010-10-28 20:08 ` Jonathan Nieder
2010-10-30 4:10 ` [PATCH 00/11 v4] More consistant terminology Matthieu Moy
2010-10-30 6:58 ` Jonathan Nieder
2010-10-30 4:10 ` [PATCH 01/11] Better "Changed but not updated" message in git-status Matthieu Moy
2010-10-30 4:10 ` [PATCH 02/11] Replace "remote tracking" with "remote-tracking" Matthieu Moy
2010-10-30 4:10 ` [PATCH 03/11] Change remote tracking to remote-tracking in non-trivial places Matthieu Moy
2010-10-30 4:10 ` [PATCH 04/11] everyday.txt: change "tracking branch" to "remote-tracking branch" Matthieu Moy
2010-10-30 4:10 ` [PATCH 05/11] Change " Matthieu Moy
2010-10-30 4:10 ` [PATCH 06/11] Change incorrect uses of "remote branch" meaning "remote-tracking" Matthieu Moy
2010-10-30 4:10 ` [PATCH 07/11] Change incorrect "remote branch" to "remote tracking branch" in C code Matthieu Moy
2010-10-30 4:10 ` [PATCH 08/11] Use 'remote-tracking branch' in generated merge messages Matthieu Moy
2010-10-30 4:10 ` [PATCH 09/11] user-manual.txt: explain better the remote(-tracking) branch terms Matthieu Moy
2010-10-30 7:18 ` Jonathan Nieder
2010-10-31 14:57 ` Matthieu Moy
2010-10-30 4:10 ` [PATCH 10/11] user-manual: remote-tracking can be checked out, with detached HEAD Matthieu Moy
2010-10-30 4:10 ` [PATCH 11/11] git-branch.txt: mention --set-upstream as a way to change upstream configuration Matthieu Moy
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