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From: Jakub Narebski <jnareb@gmail.com>
To: "George Spelvin" <linux@horizon.com>
Cc: david@lang.hm, spearce@spearce.org, anthonyvdgent@gmail.com,
	git@vger.kernel.org, hordp@cisco.com, nico@fluxnic.net,
	torvalds@linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: Git commit generation numbers
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 12:19:52 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m3mxg7sasa.fsf@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110721124351.25143.qmail@science.horizon.com>

George Spelvin, could you please try not mangle CC to include only
emails, stripping names (e.g. "spearce@spearce.org" instead of
"Shawn Pearce <spearce@spearce.org>")?

"George Spelvin" <linux@horizon.com> writes:
> On <david@lang.hm> wrote:
>> On Wed, 20 Jul 2011, Shawn Pearce wrote:

>>> If the algorithm is always "gen(A) = max(gen(P) for each parent_of(A))
>>> + 1" then it doesn't matter who merged what commits, the same commit
>>> appears at the same part of the graph relative to all of its
>>> ancestors, and therefore always has the same generation number. This
>>> is true whether or not the commit contains the generation number.
> 
>> I have to think about this more, but I'm wondering about cases where the 
>> same result ia achieved via different methods, something along the lines 
>> of one person developing something with _many_ commits (creating a large 
>> generation number) that one person merges far sooner than another, causing 
>> the commits that they do after the merge to have much larger generation 
>> numbers than someone making the same changes, but doing the merge later
> 
> Can't happen.  Using the basic algorithm as Shawn described, the
> generation number is defined uniquely by the ancestor DAG.
> 
> The generation number is the length of the longest path to a
> root (zero-ancestor) commit through the DAG.
> 
> If you look at past discussion, several people have thought it was
> okay to bake into the commit precsiely because it can be computed
> once and will never change.
> 
> However, git does have some ability to amend the history DAG after
> it's been written, using grafts and replace objects.  These can
> change generation numbers, presisely because they change the DAG.

There is also another issue that I have mentioned, namely incomplete
clones - which currently means shallow clone, without access to full
history.


Nb. grafts are so horrible hack that I would be not against turning
off generation numbers if they are used.

In the case of replace objects you need both non-replaced and replaced
DAG generation numbers.

-- 
Jakub Narębski

  reply	other threads:[~2011-07-21 19:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 89+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-07-17 18:27 Git commit generation numbers George Spelvin
2011-07-17 19:00 ` Long, Martin
2011-07-17 19:30 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-07-17 23:39   ` George Spelvin
2011-07-17 23:58     ` Linus Torvalds
2011-07-18  5:13       ` George Spelvin
2011-07-18 10:28         ` Anthony Van de Gejuchte
2011-07-18 11:48           ` George Spelvin
2011-07-20 20:51             ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-07-20 22:16               ` George Spelvin
2011-07-20 23:26                 ` david
2011-07-20 23:36                   ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-07-21  0:08                     ` Phil Hord
2011-07-21  0:18                       ` david
2011-07-21  0:37                         ` Shawn Pearce
2011-07-21  0:47                           ` Phil Hord
2011-07-21  4:26                           ` david
2011-07-21 12:43                             ` George Spelvin
2011-07-21 19:19                               ` Jakub Narebski [this message]
2011-07-21 20:27                                 ` George Spelvin
2011-07-21 20:33                                   ` Shawn Pearce
2011-07-22 12:18                                   ` Jakub Narebski
2011-07-22 13:09                                     ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-07-22 18:02                                       ` david
2011-07-22 18:34                                         ` Jakub Narebski
2011-07-22 19:06                                           ` Linus Torvalds
2011-07-22 22:02                                             ` Jeff King
2011-07-28 15:00                                             ` Felipe Contreras
2011-09-06 10:02                                               ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2011-07-22 19:08                                           ` david
2011-07-22 19:40                                             ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-07-22 18:02                                     ` david
2011-07-21  0:39                         ` Phil Hord
2011-07-21  0:58                       ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-07-21  1:09                         ` Phil Hord
2011-07-21 12:03                   ` Drew Northup
2011-07-21 12:55                     ` George Spelvin
2011-07-21 15:57                       ` Drew Northup
2011-07-21 16:24                         ` Phil Hord
2011-07-21 22:40                           ` Pēteris Kļaviņš
2011-07-22  9:30                             ` Christian Couder
2011-07-21 17:36                         ` George Spelvin
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2011-07-14 18:24 Linus Torvalds
2011-07-14 18:37 ` Jeff King
2011-07-14 18:47   ` Linus Torvalds
2011-07-14 18:55     ` Linus Torvalds
2011-07-14 19:12       ` Jeff King
2011-07-14 19:46       ` Ted Ts'o
2011-07-14 19:51         ` Linus Torvalds
2011-07-14 20:07           ` Jeff King
2011-07-14 20:08           ` Ted Ts'o
2011-07-14 19:08     ` Jeff King
2011-07-14 19:23       ` Linus Torvalds
2011-07-14 20:01         ` Jeff King
2011-07-14 20:19           ` Linus Torvalds
2011-07-14 20:31             ` Jeff King
2011-07-15  1:19               ` Linus Torvalds
2011-07-15  2:41                 ` Geert Bosch
2011-07-15  7:46                 ` Jeff King
2011-07-15 16:10                   ` Linus Torvalds
2011-07-15 16:18                     ` Shawn Pearce
2011-07-15 16:44                       ` Linus Torvalds
2011-07-15 18:42                         ` Ted Ts'o
2011-07-15 19:00                           ` Linus Torvalds
2011-07-16  9:16                           ` Christian Couder
2011-07-18  3:41                             ` Jeff King
2011-07-19  4:14                               ` Christian Couder
2011-07-19 20:00                                 ` Jeff King
2011-07-21  6:29                                   ` Christian Couder
2011-07-15 18:46                         ` Tony Luck
2011-07-15 18:58                           ` Linus Torvalds
2011-07-15 19:48                     ` Jeff King
2011-07-15 20:07                       ` Jeff King
2011-07-15 21:17                       ` Linus Torvalds
2011-07-15 21:54                         ` Jeff King
2011-07-15 23:10                         ` Linus Torvalds
2011-07-15 23:16                           ` Linus Torvalds
2011-07-15 23:36                             ` Linus Torvalds
2011-07-16  0:42                               ` Jeff King
2011-07-16  0:40                           ` Jeff King
2011-07-15  9:12                 ` Jakub Narebski
2011-07-15  9:17                   ` Long, Martin
2011-07-15 15:33                     ` Long, Martin
2011-07-15 16:15                       ` Drew Northup
2011-07-14 18:52   ` Linus Torvalds
2011-07-14 19:08     ` Jakub Narebski
2011-07-14 20:26   ` Junio C Hamano
2011-07-14 20:41     ` Jeff King
2011-07-14 21:30       ` Junio C Hamano

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