From: Tor Arntsen <tor@spacetec.no>
To: Goswin von Brederlow <goswin-v-b@web.de>
Cc: Matthieu Moy <Matthieu.Moy@grenoble-inp.fr>,
Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>,
Nicolas Pitre <nico@fluxnic.net>,
Jonathan Nieder <jrnieder@gmail.com>,
578764@bugs.debian.org, git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Please default to 'commit -a' when no changes were added
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 11:35:02 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <p2qd2d39d861004230235tacb970bftc96f2c1473843b1c@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87r5m6tu0l.fsf@frosties.localdomain>
On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 11:09, Goswin von Brederlow <goswin-v-b@web.de> wrote:
> For SVN users it gets much worse:
>
> vi existing-file.c # do some changes
> vi new-file.c # create the file
> git add new-file.c
> vi new-file.c # do some more changes
> git commit
>
> A SVN user would expect the current working copies of existing-file.c
> and new-file.c to be commited. Instead only new-file.c is commited and
> only the fist modification.
I come from CVS, i.e. a similar background.
> While this case is still highly confusing to non git users I do see that
> it can't be easily changed. And my suggestion doesn't change it. The
> call to "git add" creates an index so the commit would only act on the
> index.
I wouldn't agree it's highly confusing. As soon as you understand why
(and it shouldn't take long), it's a relief. With CVS I would
constantly make copies of my working tree so that I could sort out all
the different things I was working on at the same time (which is a
necessity when you work with development and bugfixing and customer
reports with different priorities are dropping in). It's much easier
now (with Git) to do a couple of different things at the same time.
Besides, I would argue that the SVN/CVS behaviour is creating problems
also for SVN/CVS users. Where I work it's not unusual that developers
accidentally commit different changes in the same commit, making it
hard to extract the one you want when you later wish to e.g. push a
specific change to a maintenance branch or hotfix tree.
And git add --patch is also wonderful sometimes. (Unfortunately that
won't work on systems with pre-5.8 versions of Perl, which I just
found out - but that's another story.)
I plan to create a short course for my fellow co-workers when we move
more stuff over from CVS to Git. Just an hour should do I think. I'll
clarify how the index works very early on and I believe they'll all
"get it" very quickly. I'll probably also take some parts from 'Git
from the bottom up' by John Wiegley, at least I found (after having
used Git for some time) that knowing how it works from blobs and up
actually helps a lot.
I won't join in on the discussion of any actual changes to Git, for
that I'm too fresh as Git user. I would only like to stress that I
wouldn't want the current flexibility to get limited or changed to be
more like SVN/CVS -- I come from there, remember, and I don't see why
I would wish to go back.
-Tor
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Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
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2010-04-22 15:58 ` Please default to 'commit -a' when no changes were added Jonathan Nieder
2010-04-22 18:37 ` Goswin von Brederlow
2010-04-22 19:03 ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-04-22 19:08 ` Sverre Rabbelier
2010-04-22 20:37 ` Goswin von Brederlow
2010-04-22 21:25 ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-04-23 9:03 ` Goswin von Brederlow
2010-04-23 9:31 ` Miles Bader
2010-04-23 16:01 ` Wincent Colaiuta
2010-04-23 20:17 ` Goswin von Brederlow
2010-04-23 20:26 ` Michael Witten
2010-04-23 20:33 ` Daniel Grace
2010-04-23 21:01 ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-04-24 21:15 ` Goswin von Brederlow
2010-04-24 21:40 ` Jonathan Nieder
2010-04-24 22:08 ` Goswin von Brederlow
2010-04-24 22:42 ` Jonathan Nieder
2010-04-25 2:47 ` Miles Bader
2010-04-25 3:33 ` Jonathan Nieder
2010-04-23 22:35 ` Matthias Andree
2010-04-24 1:43 ` Junio C Hamano
2010-04-22 21:28 ` Junio C Hamano
2010-04-22 21:40 ` Matthieu Moy
2010-04-22 21:57 ` Michael Witten
2010-04-23 9:09 ` Goswin von Brederlow
2010-04-23 9:22 ` Tomas Carnecky
2010-04-23 17:00 ` Michael Witten
2010-04-23 9:27 ` Matthieu Moy
2010-04-23 9:35 ` Tor Arntsen [this message]
2010-04-22 21:48 ` Adam Brewster
2010-04-22 22:27 ` Jonathan Nieder
2010-04-23 9:15 ` Goswin von Brederlow
2010-04-23 10:39 ` The index (Re: Please default to 'commit -a' when no changes were added) Jonathan Nieder
2010-04-22 22:38 ` Please default to 'commit -a' when no changes were added Jon Seymour
2010-04-23 0:04 ` Adam Brewster
2010-04-23 9:25 ` Goswin von Brederlow
2010-04-23 9:14 ` Goswin von Brederlow
2010-04-23 9:39 ` Björn Steinbrink
2010-04-23 11:44 ` Sergei Organov
2010-04-23 11:57 ` Sverre Rabbelier
2010-04-23 12:20 ` Sergei Organov
2010-04-23 14:23 ` Goswin von Brederlow
2010-04-23 18:59 ` Matthias Andree
2010-04-23 19:34 ` Michael Witten
2010-04-23 22:18 ` Matthias Andree
2010-04-23 22:25 ` Eric Raymond
2010-04-23 23:38 ` Michael Witten
2010-04-24 4:38 ` Eric Raymond
2010-04-24 9:05 ` Michael Witten
2010-04-24 9:09 ` Eric Raymond
2010-04-23 23:26 ` Michael Witten
2010-04-24 13:26 ` Tor Arntsen
2010-04-24 9:40 ` 'commit -a' safety (was: Re: Please default to 'commit -a' when no changes were added) Jakub Narebski
2010-04-24 9:56 ` 'commit -a' safety Miles Bader
2010-04-24 10:05 ` Andreas Schwab
2010-04-24 10:26 ` Jakub Narebski
2010-04-24 13:29 ` Miles Bader
2010-04-24 18:23 ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-04-25 0:16 ` Jakub Narebski
2010-04-25 2:43 ` Miles Bader
2010-04-24 11:10 ` 'commit -a' safety (was: Re: Please default to 'commit -a' when no changes were added) Wincent Colaiuta
2010-04-24 11:48 ` 'commit -a' safety Jakub Narebski
2010-04-24 14:28 ` Joey Hess
2010-04-24 15:11 ` Mike Hommey
2010-04-24 16:42 ` 'commit -a' safety (was: Re: Please default to 'commit -a' when no changes were added) Petr Baudis
2010-04-24 16:59 ` Bug#578764: " Wincent Colaiuta
2010-04-24 17:47 ` Petr Baudis
2010-04-24 18:35 ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-04-24 18:54 ` Petr Baudis
2010-04-24 19:09 ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-04-24 19:35 ` Jacob Helwig
2010-04-24 19:44 ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-04-24 19:57 ` Jacob Helwig
2010-04-24 23:47 ` 'commit -a' safety Jakub Narebski
2010-04-25 1:13 ` Junio C Hamano
2010-04-25 8:01 ` Jakub Narebski
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