From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Alex Riesen <raa.lkml@gmail.com>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org, ae@op5.se, Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de,
make-w32@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Switching from CVS to GIT
Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 00:41:38 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <u7ilpjp3x.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20071014221446.GC2776@steel.home> (message from Alex Riesen on Mon, 15 Oct 2007 00:14:46 +0200)
> Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 00:14:46 +0200
> From: Alex Riesen <raa.lkml@gmail.com>
> Cc: Andreas Ericsson <ae@op5.se>, Benoit SIGOURE <tsuna@lrde.epita.fr>,
> git list <git@vger.kernel.org>, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>,
> Make Windows <make-w32@gnu.org>
>
> Re "functional". Have to remind something (besides the fork):
That's a 20-20 hindsight: if you deliberately write a program to rely
heavily on Posix-isms, don't be surprised when you discover that it
cannot be easily ported to other platforms.
> - no proper VFS
I'm not sure what you are talking about. What VFS do you use on
GNU/Linux that cannot work on Windows, and why do you use it?
> - no proper filename semantics (case-insensitivity and stupid rules for
> allowed characters in filenames, like ":" in filenames in
> cross-platform projects)
There's a flag on Windows to open files case-sensitively, if you need
that. In any case, I don't see how this can be of any real relevance
to porting GIT. As for ":" in file names, simply don't use it, like
you don't use white space or characters below 32 decimal: it's
inconvenient, even if it's allowed.
> - no acceptable level of performance in filesystem and VFS (readdir,
> stat, open and read/write are annoyingly slow)
With what libraries? Native `stat' and `readdir' are quite fast.
Perhaps you mean the ported glibc (libgw32c), where `readdir' is
indeed painfully slow, but then you don't need to use it.
> - it is the only OS in the world with multi-root (/a/b/c and /a/b/c
> can be not the same, depending on what current "drive" is)
So what? on Unix "a/b/c" can be not the same. Both cases are simply
not complete file names, that's all. No one said there must be a
single root for all volumes, it's the Posix jingoism creeping in
again.
> and multi-cwd
No longer a problem on Windows versions since 2000.
> - no real "mmap" (which kills perfomance and complicates code)
You only need mmap because you are accustomed to use it on GNU/Linux.
> Interprocess communication:
>
> - no reliable text environment (I'm programming in the damn thing for
> 10 years and I still don't know how to pass an environment variable
> _for_sure_)
>
> - it has only one argument (limited in size) passed to started
> programs, which means that there is no possible way to safely pass
> file and text arguments on command line (more than one, that is)
Not enough context, so I cannot talk intelligently about this. Why do
you need interprocess communication in the first place? why not simply
give birth to a subsidiary process and pass it a command line (which
can be up to 32KB)?
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2007-10-14 17:10 ` Switching from CVS to GIT Benoit SIGOURE
2007-10-14 18:06 ` Marco Costalba
2007-10-14 18:20 ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-15 5:35 ` Martin Langhoff
2007-10-14 18:27 ` Andreas Ericsson
2007-10-14 18:39 ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-14 19:09 ` Andreas Ericsson
2007-10-14 20:14 ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-14 22:14 ` Alex Riesen
2007-10-14 22:41 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2007-10-14 23:45 ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-15 0:36 ` Brian Dessent
2007-10-15 1:22 ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-15 1:24 ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-15 6:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-15 7:56 ` Steffen Prohaska
2007-10-15 8:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-15 8:47 ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-15 11:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-15 12:31 ` Johannes Sixt
2007-10-15 12:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-15 18:29 ` Paul Smith
2007-10-15 9:23 ` Steffen Prohaska
2007-10-15 11:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-15 4:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-15 8:34 ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-15 9:02 ` Benoit SIGOURE
2007-10-15 17:56 ` Alex Riesen
2007-10-15 18:37 ` Brian Dessent
2007-10-15 18:44 ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-15 19:07 ` Brian Dessent
2007-10-15 19:27 ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-15 20:24 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-10-15 20:36 ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-15 19:42 ` Alex Riesen
2007-10-15 19:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-15 19:58 ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-15 21:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-15 20:05 ` Brian Dessent
2007-10-15 20:19 ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-15 20:43 ` Steffen Prohaska
2007-10-15 20:46 ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-16 2:24 ` Nguyen Thai Ngoc Duy
2007-10-16 4:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-16 10:09 ` Nguyen Thai Ngoc Duy
2007-10-16 12:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-16 6:17 ` Steffen Prohaska
2007-10-15 21:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-15 20:05 ` Mark Watts
2007-10-15 4:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-15 5:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-15 8:44 ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-15 8:56 ` David Kastrup
2007-10-15 8:57 ` David Kastrup
2007-10-15 17:49 ` Alex Riesen
2007-10-15 18:25 ` Dave Korn
2007-10-15 18:34 ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-15 19:34 ` Alex Riesen
2007-10-15 17:53 ` Alex Riesen
2007-10-14 23:55 ` Andreas Ericsson
2007-10-16 0:45 ` Daniel Barkalow
2007-10-16 4:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-16 5:14 ` Andreas Ericsson
2007-10-16 6:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-16 7:07 ` Daniel Barkalow
2007-10-16 12:29 ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-16 12:38 ` Peter Karlsson
2007-10-16 13:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-16 12:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-16 12:59 ` David Kastrup
2007-10-16 13:15 ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-16 15:47 ` Dave Korn
2007-10-16 15:56 ` David Brown
2007-10-16 16:04 ` Nicolas Pitre
2007-10-16 16:23 ` Dave Korn
2007-10-16 18:06 ` Christopher Faylor
2007-10-16 16:59 ` Andreas Ericsson
2007-10-16 7:14 ` Steffen Prohaska
2007-10-16 12:33 ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-16 13:16 ` Steffen Prohaska
2007-10-16 13:21 ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-16 13:50 ` Steffen Prohaska
2007-10-16 14:14 ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-16 14:36 ` Steffen Prohaska
2007-10-16 15:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-17 19:33 ` Robin Rosenberg
2007-10-16 5:56 ` Daniel Barkalow
2007-10-16 7:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-16 12:39 ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-16 12:47 ` David Kastrup
2007-10-16 13:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-16 13:24 ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-16 15:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-16 15:18 ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-16 15:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-16 17:04 ` Daniel Barkalow
2007-10-16 6:06 ` David Kastrup
2007-10-16 6:42 ` Johannes Sixt
2007-10-16 7:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-14 22:59 ` Dave Korn
2007-10-15 0:01 ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-15 17:36 ` Alex Riesen
2007-10-15 0:03 ` David Brown
2007-10-15 6:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-15 10:16 ` Andreas Ericsson
2007-10-15 10:38 ` Johannes Sixt
2007-10-15 10:52 ` Andreas Ericsson
2007-10-15 11:16 ` Dave Korn
2007-10-15 0:46 ` Michael Gebetsroither
2007-10-15 17:38 ` Alex Riesen
2007-10-15 19:26 ` David Kastrup
2007-10-15 19:30 ` Alex Riesen
2007-10-16 11:13 ` Peter Karlsson
2007-10-15 5:43 ` Martin Langhoff
2007-10-15 6:39 ` Johannes Sixt
2007-10-15 23:12 ` Shawn O. Pearce
2007-10-16 6:10 ` Johannes Sixt
2007-10-16 6:21 ` Shawn O. Pearce
2007-10-16 6:29 ` Johannes Sixt
2007-10-16 15:16 ` Johannes Schindelin
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