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In-Reply-To: (Patrick Steinhardt's message of "Fri, 26 Jun 2026 12:50:17 +0200") References: <20260621213407.GC2297179@coredump.intra.peff.net> <20260626051657.GB3138423@coredump.intra.peff.net> Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2026 06:45:12 -0700 Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Patrick Steinhardt writes: >> Trying to make the wedged state fail fast and loudly is mostly just >> punting on the problem. We'd still see spurious failures. We've so far >> resisted the urge to do any automatic flaky-test retries, preferring >> instead to just try to root out the flakes. I'm a little hesitant to >> start now, because I think our strategy has mostly been good so far, and >> I've seen some horrible counter-examples where flakes and retries become >> a routine drag on development (and I'm afraid that accommodating flakes >> might make them more common). > > I agree. I'm not a fan of retry logic, as every flaky test may mask an > actual bug that we haven't fully investigated yet. Can't agree more. > I was also wondering whether we can maybe work around the issue by > increasing the Apache timeout value. That sounds like an easy potential > solution to try, and from all we've discovered so far it doesn't feel > like this is something we can address on the Git side. Thanks, all, for looking into this.