From: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
To: Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de>
Cc: Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget <gitgitgadget@gmail.com>,
git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/17] tests: access bare repositories explicitly
Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2026 08:45:31 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <xmqq1pgsdrdw.fsf@gitster.g> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <dcb8c6f1-1410-9f04-c389-6f69ac4fe842@gmx.de> (Johannes Schindelin's message of "Sat, 4 Apr 2026 21:45:31 +0200 (CEST)")
Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de> writes:
>> Shoudln't there be a patch [01/18] before everything else that
>> updates Documentation/BreakingChanges.adoc to propose the default
>> change?
>
> Well, yes and no. There should be an update to BreakingChanges to propose
> that default change, but obviously it should not only be a documentation
> change: It should also adjust `Documentation/config/safe.adoc` to mention
> the intended change of behavior, and it should introduce
> `WITH_BREAKING_HANGES`-specific conditional code in `setup.c`.
Ah, very true.
And of course we'd need some tests conditional to breaking-changes
prerequisite in the meantime, to make sure that the default is to
allow "all" before breaking changes, and with the prereq the test
checks the new behaviour is to deny by default.
As to the changes to existing tests (i.e., this patch series started
doing), they have a bit of balancing act.
* Most importantly, they need to make sure their indivial
operations, when working on a bare repository is allowed in any
unspecified means, continue to behave sensibly. "git log -p" in
a bare repository should still produce patches, "git bisect" in a
bare repository should work and assume --no-checkout, etc.
* Then all of them would need to be somehow told that working on a
bare repository is allowed in suitable way. For most of then it
should be done by setting safe.bareRepository in the global
scope, just like many tests specify the default branch name
upfront just once (this is a tangent, but we should find a way to
get rid of GIT_TEST_DEFAULT_INITIAL_BRANCH_NAME variable support
in our binary and instead set it up in the test environment's
~/.gitconfig), some may add --git-dir=., etc. But the primary
focus with this change is to preserve what individual operation
each test wants to validate (see above).
* There may need to be some tests behind the WITH_BREAKING_CHANGES
prerequisite that makes sure that the access to the repository is
blocked without the configuration loosening the condition, but
they hopefully would be minimum---unlike "how this particular
command should operate in a bare repository?" that vary per
command, "no command should work in a bare repository unless ..."
that is enforced in the setup phase do not have to validate each
and every command.
> And, crucially, it should pass the test suite under WITH_BREAKING_CHANGES.
>
> To do that, a lot more needs to happen than just the 17 patches in this
> here patch series. Most of the additional changes are quite mechanical,
> and can be validated relatively easily despite their sheer number. And
> only at the very end of those changes can that `safe.bareRepository`
> change even be proposed.
I agree with all the flow you propose here. And for that process, I
think the early parts of the effort (i.e., there ~20 patches) that
prepare existing tests that make sure the operations of individual
commands in bare repositories should be kept to bare minimum by
freezing the world to allow bare repositories, just like initial
branch names are frozen to either 'master' or 'main' in many test
scripts. Adding "--git-dir=." (regardless of the "-C there") you
proposed in the other thread is a valid way (but it may be tedious
to do and verify); doing "git config --global safe.bareRepository
all" upfront, if it works, might be simpler. Any approach that
would achieve what we want is fine.
> I plan on proposing that patch in due time, to start the discussion
> whether or not it is a good idea to change the default of
> `safe.bareRepository` in Git 3.0.
Yup, I do not think it is a bad thing in the longer term, even
though I suspect it might be a bit more disruptive than others
we have in the breaking changes document.
Thanks for working on this.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-04-06 15:45 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-04-02 14:33 [PATCH 00/17] tests: access bare repositories explicitly Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2026-04-02 14:33 ` [PATCH 01/17] t0001: allow implicit bare repo discovery for aliased-command test Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2026-04-02 14:33 ` [PATCH 02/17] t0001: replace `cd`+`git` with `git --git-dir` in `check_config` Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2026-04-02 14:33 ` [PATCH 03/17] t0003: use `--git-dir` for bare repo attribute tests Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2026-04-02 14:33 ` [PATCH 04/17] t0056: allow implicit bare repo discovery for `-C` work-tree tests Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2026-04-02 14:33 ` [PATCH 05/17] t1020: use `--git-dir` instead of subshell for bare repo Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2026-04-02 14:33 ` [PATCH 06/17] t1900: avoid using `-C <dir>` for a bare repository Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2026-04-02 14:33 ` [PATCH 07/17] t2400: explicitly specify bare repo for `git worktree add` Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2026-04-02 14:33 ` [PATCH 08/17] t2406: use `--git-dir=.` for bare repository worktree repair Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2026-04-02 14:33 ` [PATCH 09/17] t5503: avoid discovering a bare repository Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2026-04-02 14:33 ` [PATCH 10/17] t5505: export `GIT_DIR` after `git init --bare` Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2026-04-02 14:33 ` [PATCH 11/17] t5509: specify bare repository path explicitly Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2026-04-02 20:44 ` Junio C Hamano
2026-04-03 14:22 ` Johannes Schindelin
2026-04-03 18:17 ` Junio C Hamano
2026-04-04 19:29 ` Johannes Schindelin
2026-04-02 14:33 ` [PATCH 12/17] t5540/t5541: avoid accessing a bare repository via `-C <dir>` Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2026-04-02 14:33 ` [PATCH 13/17] t5619: wrap `test_commit_bulk` in `GIT_DIR` subshell for bare repo Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2026-04-02 14:33 ` [PATCH 14/17] t6020: use `-C` for worktree, `--git-dir` for bare repository Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2026-04-02 14:33 ` [PATCH 15/17] t9210: pass `safe.bareRepository=all` to `scalar register` Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2026-04-02 14:33 ` [PATCH 16/17] t9700: stop relying on implicit bare repo discovery Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2026-04-02 14:33 ` [PATCH 17/17] git p4 clone --bare: need to be explicit about the gitdir Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2026-04-02 18:15 ` [PATCH 00/17] tests: access bare repositories explicitly Junio C Hamano
2026-04-04 19:45 ` Johannes Schindelin
2026-04-06 15:45 ` Junio C Hamano [this message]
2026-04-04 19:49 ` [PATCH v2 " Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2026-04-04 19:49 ` [PATCH v2 01/17] t0001: allow implicit bare repo discovery for aliased-command test Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2026-04-06 16:00 ` Junio C Hamano
2026-04-04 19:49 ` [PATCH v2 02/17] t0001: replace `cd`+`git` with `git --git-dir` in `check_config` Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2026-04-04 19:49 ` [PATCH v2 03/17] t0003: use `--git-dir` for bare repo attribute tests Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2026-04-04 19:49 ` [PATCH v2 04/17] t0056: allow implicit bare repo discovery for `-C` work-tree tests Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2026-04-04 19:49 ` [PATCH v2 05/17] t1020: use `--git-dir` instead of subshell for bare repo Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2026-04-04 19:49 ` [PATCH v2 06/17] t1900: avoid using `-C <dir>` for a bare repository Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2026-04-04 19:49 ` [PATCH v2 07/17] t2400: explicitly specify bare repo for `git worktree add` Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2026-04-04 19:49 ` [PATCH v2 08/17] t2406: use `--git-dir=.` for bare repository worktree repair Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2026-04-04 19:49 ` [PATCH v2 09/17] t5503: avoid discovering a bare repository Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2026-04-04 19:49 ` [PATCH v2 10/17] t5505: export `GIT_DIR` after `git init --bare` Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2026-04-04 19:49 ` [PATCH v2 11/17] t5509: specify bare repository path explicitly Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2026-04-04 19:49 ` [PATCH v2 12/17] t5540/t5541: avoid accessing a bare repository via `-C <dir>` Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2026-04-04 19:49 ` [PATCH v2 13/17] t5619: wrap `test_commit_bulk` in `GIT_DIR` subshell for bare repo Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2026-04-04 19:49 ` [PATCH v2 14/17] t6020: use `-C` for worktree, `--git-dir` for bare repository Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2026-04-04 19:49 ` [PATCH v2 15/17] t9210: pass `safe.bareRepository=all` to `scalar register` Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2026-04-04 19:49 ` [PATCH v2 16/17] t9700: stop relying on implicit bare repo discovery Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2026-04-04 19:49 ` [PATCH v2 17/17] git p4 clone --bare: need to be explicit about the gitdir Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
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