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From: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
To: "Julia Evans via GitGitGadget" <gitgitgadget@gmail.com>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org,  "D. Ben Knoble" <ben.knoble@gmail.com>,
	 Julia Evans <julia@jvns.ca>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/5] doc: git-checkout: clarify intro
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2025 08:58:41 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <xmqq1poup1am.fsf@gitster.g> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <48e7f230294e131007032ef8850456a5c0493ef9.1756467934.git.gitgitgadget@gmail.com> (Julia Evans via GitGitGadget's message of "Fri, 29 Aug 2025 11:45:30 +0000")

"Julia Evans via GitGitGadget" <gitgitgadget@gmail.com> writes:

> From: Julia Evans <julia@jvns.ca>
>
> - Many users do not understand the terms "index" or "pathspec". Clarify
>   in the intro by using an example, so that users can understand the
>   basic idea without learning the full definition of "pathspec".
> - Use the terminology "Switch" and "Restore" to mirror `git switch`
>   and `git restore`
> - Reference (and clarify) the ARGUMENT DISAMBIGUATION section
>
> Signed-off-by: Julia Evans <julia@jvns.ca>
> ---

You seem to have forgotten to update the proposed log message ...

https://lore.kernel.org/git/de40e0ed-ca12-41b0-acd0-3c594078cc14@app.fastmail.com/

... to avoid making it just an enumeration of "these random things
were done in this patch" (and instead tell a coherent story).

The same comment applies to many of your patches in this and other
topics (I won't repeat for brevity, though, on my review on them).

>  Documentation/git-checkout.adoc | 29 +++++++++++++++++------------
>  1 file changed, 17 insertions(+), 12 deletions(-)
>
> diff --git a/Documentation/git-checkout.adoc b/Documentation/git-checkout.adoc
> index 40e02cfd65..c86941ad53 100644
> --- a/Documentation/git-checkout.adoc
> +++ b/Documentation/git-checkout.adoc
> @@ -20,10 +20,12 @@ git checkout (-p|--patch) [<tree-ish>] [--] [<pathspec>...]
>  
>  DESCRIPTION
>  -----------
> -Updates files in the working tree to match the version in the index
> -or the specified tree.  If no pathspec was given, `git checkout` will
> -also update `HEAD` to set the specified branch as the current
> -branch.
> +`git checkout` has two main modes: it can
> +**switch branches**, for example with `git checkout <branch>`, and
> +**restore files from a different version**, for example with
> +`git checkout <commit> <filename>` or `git checkout <filename>`
> +
> +See ARGUMENT DISAMBIGUATION below for how Git decides which one to do.
>  
>  `git checkout [<branch>]`::
>  	To prepare for working on _<branch>_, switch to it by updating
> @@ -511,14 +513,17 @@ $ git log -g -2 HEAD
>  ARGUMENT DISAMBIGUATION
>  -----------------------
>  
> -When there is only one argument given and it is not `--` (e.g. `git
> -checkout abc`), and when the argument is both a valid _<tree-ish>_
> -(e.g. a branch `abc` exists) and a valid _<pathspec>_ (e.g. a file
> -or a directory whose name is "abc" exists), Git would usually ask
> -you to disambiguate.  Because checking out a branch is so common an
> -operation, however, `git checkout abc` takes "abc" as a _<tree-ish>_
> -in such a situation.  Use `git checkout -- <pathspec>` if you want
> -to checkout these paths out of the index.
> +When you run `git checkout <something>`, Git tries to guess whether
> +`<something>` is intended to be a branch, a commit, or a set of file(s),
> +and then switches branches, switches commits, or restores the files.

"Switches branches" I can understand.  You were on your old branch
(your HEAD usually is pointing at some branch), and you move to your
new branch by making it your "current" branch.

I do not understand "switches commits".  When you move to a commit
(i.e. your HEAD can point directly at a commit without referring to
any branch), are you switching one commit with another?  I do not
think users would view it that way.

Phrasing it with "switch to" may make it easier to handle.  Then
your previous state would not matter as much.

    ... and then switch to the named branch or the named commit, or
    restores the files in the working tree (i.e. overwrites them
    from different versions).

perhaps.

> +If there's any ambiguity, Git will treat `<something>` as a branch or
> +commit, but you can use the double dash `--` to force Git to treat the
> +parameter as a list of files and/or directories, like this:
> +
> +----------
> +git checkout -- file.txt
> +----------

Good.

>  
>  EXAMPLES
>  --------

  reply	other threads:[~2025-08-29 15:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-08-25 19:08 [PATCH 0/5] doc: git-checkout: clarify DESCRIPTION section Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-08-25 19:08 ` [PATCH 1/5] doc: git-checkout: clarify intro Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-08-26 18:46   ` Junio C Hamano
2025-08-26 18:51     ` Junio C Hamano
2025-08-26 20:56     ` Julia Evans
2025-08-28 14:00   ` D. Ben Knoble
2025-08-28 22:34     ` Julia Evans
2025-08-28 23:44       ` Junio C Hamano
2025-08-29 13:39         ` D. Ben Knoble
2025-08-29 21:00     ` Junio C Hamano
2025-09-03 23:48       ` D. Ben Knoble
2025-08-25 19:08 ` [PATCH 2/5] doc: git-checkout: clarify `git checkout <branch>` Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-08-26 21:38   ` Junio C Hamano
2025-08-28 12:11     ` Julia Evans
2025-08-28 15:45       ` Junio C Hamano
2025-08-28 18:24         ` Julia Evans
2025-08-25 19:08 ` [PATCH 3/5] doc: git-checkout: don't use "reset" Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-08-25 19:08 ` [PATCH 4/5] doc: git-checkout: deduplicate --detach explanation Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-08-25 19:08 ` [PATCH 5/5] doc: git-checkout: clarify restoring files section Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-08-26 22:43   ` Junio C Hamano
2025-08-28 13:26     ` Julia Evans
2025-08-28 19:08   ` D. Ben Knoble
2025-08-28 19:59     ` Julia Evans
2025-08-28 20:38       ` Junio C Hamano
2025-08-29 13:48       ` D. Ben Knoble
2025-08-29 11:45 ` [PATCH v2 0/5] doc: git-checkout: clarify DESCRIPTION section Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-08-29 11:45   ` [PATCH v2 1/5] doc: git-checkout: clarify intro Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-08-29 15:58     ` Junio C Hamano [this message]
2025-09-02 17:14       ` Julia Evans
2025-08-29 11:45   ` [PATCH v2 2/5] doc: git-checkout: clarify `git checkout <branch>` Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-08-29 16:03     ` Junio C Hamano
2025-09-02 17:16       ` Julia Evans
2025-08-29 11:45   ` [PATCH v2 3/5] doc: git-checkout: don't use "reset" Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-08-29 16:22     ` Junio C Hamano
2025-09-01 14:28       ` Julia Evans
2025-09-02 16:10         ` Junio C Hamano
2025-08-29 11:45   ` [PATCH v2 4/5] doc: git-checkout: deduplicate --detach explanation Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-08-29 11:45   ` [PATCH v2 5/5] doc: git-checkout: clarify restoring files section Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-09-03 16:49   ` [PATCH v3 0/6] doc: git-checkout: clarify DESCRIPTION section Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-09-03 16:49     ` [PATCH v3 1/6] doc: git-checkout: clarify intro Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-09-03 16:49     ` [PATCH v3 2/6] doc: git-checkout: clarify `git checkout <branch>` Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-09-03 16:49     ` [PATCH v3 3/6] doc: git-checkout: clarify `-b` and `-B` Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-09-03 16:50     ` [PATCH v3 4/6] doc: git-checkout: deduplicate --detach explanation Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-09-03 16:50     ` [PATCH v3 5/6] doc: git-checkout: split up restoring files section Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-09-03 16:50     ` [PATCH v3 6/6] doc: git-checkout: clarify " Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-09-03 21:29       ` Junio C Hamano
2025-09-03 21:09     ` [PATCH v3 0/6] doc: git-checkout: clarify DESCRIPTION section Junio C Hamano
2025-09-03 21:28       ` Julia Evans
2025-09-10 19:14     ` [PATCH v4 0/7] " Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-09-10 19:14       ` [PATCH v4 1/7] doc: git-checkout: clarify intro sentence Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-09-10 19:14       ` [PATCH v4 2/7] doc: git-checkout: clarify ARGUMENT DISAMBIGUATION Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-09-10 19:14       ` [PATCH v4 3/7] doc: git-checkout: clarify `git checkout <branch>` Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-09-10 19:14       ` [PATCH v4 4/7] doc: git-checkout: clarify `-b` and `-B` Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-09-29 18:07         ` Kristoffer Haugsbakk
2025-10-02 18:37           ` [PATCH] doc: git-checkout: fix placeholder markup kristofferhaugsbakk
2025-10-16 22:11             ` [PATCH resend] " kristofferhaugsbakk
2025-10-17 13:56               ` Julia Evans
2025-10-17 15:50               ` [PATCH v2] " kristofferhaugsbakk
2025-09-10 19:14       ` [PATCH v4 5/7] doc: git-checkout: deduplicate --detach explanation Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-09-10 19:14       ` [PATCH v4 6/7] doc: git-checkout: split up restoring files section Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-09-10 19:14       ` [PATCH v4 7/7] doc: git-checkout: clarify " Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-09-11 13:01       ` [PATCH v4 0/7] doc: git-checkout: clarify DESCRIPTION section Ben Knoble
2025-09-12 14:05         ` Julia Evans
2025-09-12 14:26           ` Kristoffer Haugsbakk
2025-09-15 23:22             ` Junio C Hamano
2025-09-16  6:41               ` Kristoffer Haugsbakk
2025-09-12 16:23           ` Junio C Hamano
2025-09-17 18:38       ` Junio C Hamano

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