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Wed, 27 Aug 2025 17:20:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Junio C Hamano To: Eric Sunshine Cc: Kristoffer Haugsbakk , Kristoffer Haugsbakk , git@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/4] usage: help the user help themselves In-Reply-To: (Eric Sunshine's message of "Wed, 27 Aug 2025 17:02:28 -0400") References: <9611573e-fb0b-49d5-933a-50d8e0603701@app.fastmail.com> Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2025 14:20:03 -0700 Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Eric Sunshine writes: > That's still inviting unnecessary emails, isn't it? It would probably > be better add the qualification that people should send the email only > if they were unable to find any workable replacement. Perhaps: > > - send an email to to let us know > that you still use this command and were unable > to determine a suitable replacement In practice, people will respond to such an instruction by always sending an e-mail. Asking others who sound as if they are promising to give answers when asked is cheaper than investigating themselves ;-).