From: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
To: Christian Couder <christian.couder@gmail.com>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org, Taylor Blau <me@ttaylorr.com>,
Rick Sanders <rick@sfconservancy.org>,
Git at SFC <git@sfconservancy.org>,
Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de>,
Patrick Steinhardt <ps@pks.im>,
Christian Couder <chriscool@tuxfamily.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] SubmittingPatches: add section about AI
Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2025 13:59:17 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <xmqq4isi1gpm.fsf@gitster.g> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20251001140310.527097-1-christian.couder@gmail.com> (Christian Couder's message of "Wed, 1 Oct 2025 16:02:50 +0200")
Christian Couder <christian.couder@gmail.com> writes:
> As more and more developer tools use AI, we are facing two main risks
> related to AI generated content:
>
> - its situation regarding copyright and license is not clear,
> and:
>
> - more and more bad quality content could be submitted for review to
> the mailing list.
>
> To mitigate both risks, let's add an "Use of Artificial Intelligence"
> section to "Documentation/SubmittingPatches" with the goal of
> discouraging its blind use to generate content that is submitted to
> the project, while still allowing us to benefit from its help in some
> innovative, useful and less risky ways.
>
> Helped-by: Rick Sanders <rick@sfconservancy.org>
> Signed-off-by: Christian Couder <chriscool@tuxfamily.org>
>
> ---
> This is inspired by the "AI guidelines" section we already have for
A more important thing to mention is that Rick is a lawyer at SFC
helped us to draft the wording used in this one.
> +[[ai]]
> +=== Use of Artificial Intelligence (AI)
> +
> +The Developer's Certificate of Origin requires contributors to certify
> +that they know the origin of their contributions to the project and
> +that they have the right to submit it under the project's license.
> +It's not yet clear that this can be legally satisfied when submitting
> +significant amount of content that has been generated by AI tools.
> +
> +Another issue with AI generated content is that AIs still often
> +hallucinate or just produce bad code, commit messages, documentation
> +or output, even when you point out their mistakes.
> +
> +To avoid these issues, we will reject anything that looks AI
> +generated, that sounds overly formal or bloated, that looks like AI
> +slop, that looks good on the surface but makes no sense, or that
> +senders don’t understand or cannot explain.
A milder way to phrase this would be to jump directly to "we reject
what the sender cannot explain when asked about it". "How does this
work?" "Why is this a good thing to do?" "Where did it come from?"
instead of saying "looks AI generated".
It would sidestep the "who decides if it looks AI generated?" question.
> +We strongly recommend using AI tools carefully and responsibly.
> +
> +Contributors would often benefit more from AI by using it to guide and
> +help them step by step towards producing a solution by themselves
> +rather than by asking for a full solution that they would then mostly
> +copy-paste. They can also use AI to help with debugging, or with
> +checking for obvious mistakes, things that can be improved, things
> +that don’t match our style, guidelines or our feedback, before sending
> +it to us.
> +
> [[git-tools]]
> === Generate your patch using Git tools out of your commits.
Thanks.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-10-01 20:59 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-06-30 20:32 [RFC/PATCH] SubmittingPatches: forbid use of genAI to generate changes Junio C Hamano
2025-06-30 21:07 ` brian m. carlson
2025-06-30 21:23 ` Collin Funk
2025-07-01 10:36 ` Christian Couder
2025-07-01 11:07 ` Christian Couder
2025-07-01 17:33 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-07-01 16:20 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-07-08 14:23 ` Christian Couder
2025-10-01 14:02 ` [PATCH v2] SubmittingPatches: add section about AI Christian Couder
2025-10-01 18:59 ` Chuck Wolber
2025-10-01 23:32 ` brian m. carlson
2025-10-02 2:30 ` Ben Knoble
2025-10-03 13:33 ` Christian Couder
2025-10-01 20:59 ` Junio C Hamano [this message]
2025-10-03 8:51 ` Christian Couder
2025-10-03 16:20 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-10-03 16:45 ` rsbecker
2025-10-08 7:22 ` Christian Couder
2025-10-01 21:37 ` brian m. carlson
2025-10-03 14:25 ` Christian Couder
2025-10-03 20:48 ` Elijah Newren
2025-10-03 22:20 ` brian m. carlson
2025-10-06 17:45 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-10-08 4:18 ` Elijah Newren
2025-10-12 15:07 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-10-08 9:28 ` Christian Couder
2025-10-13 18:14 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-10-23 17:32 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-10-08 4:18 ` Elijah Newren
2025-10-08 8:37 ` Christian Couder
2025-10-08 9:28 ` Michal Suchánek
2025-10-08 9:35 ` Christian Couder
2025-10-09 1:13 ` Collin Funk
2025-10-08 7:30 ` Christian Couder
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