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In-Reply-To: <87792693-58d9-4047-beae-38aa4c59ed41@app.fastmail.com> (Kristoffer Haugsbakk's message of "Mon, 29 Sep 2025 22:04:49 +0200") References: <87792693-58d9-4047-beae-38aa4c59ed41@app.fastmail.com> Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2025 15:12:52 -0700 Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain "Kristoffer Haugsbakk" writes: >> The time taken during 7. is pretty much fixed and unless we are >> willing to sacrifice the quality of the end result, cannot >> reasonably be shortened (note that this is based on the assumption >> that "find any remaining bugs while it is in 'next' before it hits >> 'master'" philosophy is working, but we have never run experiments >> to shorten this to say 3 days to see if we see more bugs on 'master' >> yet). > > Maybe pure documentation changes could cook for less than seven days. Yup, that kind of adjustment at the maintainer's discretion has already been applied, depending on the nature of a topic. Some truly trivial typofixes may not even go through 'next' but get applied to 'master' directly. Thanks.