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From: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
To: Patrick Steinhardt <ps@pks.im>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org,  Karthik Nayak <karthik.188@gmail.com>,
	 "brian m. carlson" <sandals@crustytoothpaste.net>,
	 Jeff King <peff@peff.net>, shejialuo <shejialuo@gmail.com>,
	 Christian Couder <chriscool@tuxfamily.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 03/16] builtin/update-ref: skip ambiguity checks when parsing object IDs
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2025 14:26:59 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <xmqq5xkwbavg.fsf@gitster.g> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250225-pks-update-ref-optimization-v3-3-77c3687cda75@pks.im> (Patrick Steinhardt's message of "Tue, 25 Feb 2025 09:55:49 +0100")

Patrick Steinhardt <ps@pks.im> writes:

> Most of the commands in git-update-ref(1) accept an old and/or new
> object ID to update a specific reference to. These object IDs get parsed
> via `repo_get_oid()`, which not only handles plain object IDs, but also
> those that have a suffix like "~" or "^2". More surprisingly though, it
> even knows to resolve references, despite the fact that its manpage does
> not mention this fact even once.

Are you referring to <new-oid> and other placeholders with "oid" in
their names?  I do think "oid" in our documentation implies that
only full hexadecimal object names are allowed.  The glossary agrees
by saying that <object id> is a synonym for <object name> that is
usually 40-hex SHA-1.  However, that is not strictly enforced and we
say <object> (or its typed variants like <commit-ish>) even when a
command takes any extended SHA-1 expression, as described in
Documentation/revisions.{txt,adoc}, not limited to full hexadecimal
object name.

So, I am somewhat sympathetic to your confusion, but not that much.
When we wrote the command and documented it back in 2005, we did
mean to take any object name that is spelled in any way, not just
full hexadecimal.  You may want to update the manual to emphasize
that we encourage the use of full hexadecimal for this command and
elsewhere where it is more appropriate.

> One consequence of this is that we also check for ambiguous references:
> when parsing a full object ID where the DWIM mechanism would also cause
> us to resolve it as a branch, we'd end up printing a warning. While this
> check makes sense to have in general, it is arguably less useful in the
> context of git-update-ref(1).
>
>   - The manpage is explicitly structured around object IDs. So if we see
>     a fully blown object ID, the intent should be quite clear in
>     general.
>
>   - The command is part of our plumbing layer and not a tool that users
>     would generally use in interactive workflows. As such, the warning
>     will likely not be visible to anybody in the first place.

In addition, if the user meant to refer to a ref, it is possible to
disambiguate by prefixing refs/tags/ or whatever.  So squelching the
warning unconditionally might make sense.  We will yield the value
of the full hexadecimal object name, instead of the value of the ref
that is confusingly named, so there is no material change in the
behaviour here.

OK.


  reply	other threads:[~2025-02-26 22:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 169+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-02-17 15:50 [PATCH 00/14] refs: batch refname availability checks Patrick Steinhardt
2025-02-17 15:50 ` [PATCH 01/14] object-name: introduce `repo_get_oid_with_flags()` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-02-17 15:50 ` [PATCH 02/14] object-name: allow skipping ambiguity checks in `get_oid()` family Patrick Steinhardt
2025-02-17 15:50 ` [PATCH 03/14] builtin/update-ref: skip ambiguity checks when parsing object IDs Patrick Steinhardt
2025-02-18 16:04   ` Karthik Nayak
2025-02-17 15:50 ` [PATCH 04/14] refs: introduce function to batch refname availability checks Patrick Steinhardt
2025-02-17 15:50 ` [PATCH 05/14] refs/reftable: start using `refs_verify_refnames_available()` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-02-17 15:50 ` [PATCH 06/14] refs: stop re-verifying common prefixes for availability Patrick Steinhardt
2025-02-18 16:12   ` Karthik Nayak
2025-02-19 11:52     ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-02-17 15:50 ` [PATCH 07/14] refs/iterator: separate lifecycle from iteration Patrick Steinhardt
2025-02-18 16:52   ` shejialuo
2025-02-19 11:52     ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-02-19 12:41       ` shejialuo
2025-02-19 12:59         ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-02-19 13:06           ` shejialuo
2025-02-19 13:17             ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-02-19 13:20               ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-02-19 13:23                 ` shejialuo
2025-02-18 17:13   ` Karthik Nayak
2025-02-19 11:52     ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-02-17 15:50 ` [PATCH 08/14] refs/iterator: provide infrastructure to re-seek iterators Patrick Steinhardt
2025-02-17 15:50 ` [PATCH 09/14] refs/iterator: implement seeking for merged iterators Patrick Steinhardt
2025-02-19 20:10   ` Karthik Nayak
2025-02-17 15:50 ` [PATCH 10/14] refs/iterator: implement seeking for reftable iterators Patrick Steinhardt
2025-02-19 20:13   ` Karthik Nayak
2025-02-17 15:50 ` [PATCH 11/14] refs/iterator: implement seeking for ref-cache iterators Patrick Steinhardt
2025-02-17 15:50 ` [PATCH 12/14] refs/iterator: implement seeking for `packed-ref` iterators Patrick Steinhardt
2025-02-17 15:50 ` [PATCH 13/14] refs/iterator: implement seeking for "files" iterators Patrick Steinhardt
2025-02-17 15:50 ` [PATCH 14/14] refs: reuse iterators when determining refname availability Patrick Steinhardt
2025-02-18 17:10 ` [PATCH 00/14] refs: batch refname availability checks brian m. carlson
2025-02-19 13:23 ` [PATCH v2 00/16] " Patrick Steinhardt
2025-02-19 13:23   ` [PATCH v2 01/16] object-name: introduce `repo_get_oid_with_flags()` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-02-19 17:02     ` Justin Tobler
2025-02-19 13:23   ` [PATCH v2 02/16] object-name: allow skipping ambiguity checks in `get_oid()` family Patrick Steinhardt
2025-02-21  8:00     ` Jeff King
2025-02-21  8:36       ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-02-21  9:06         ` Jeff King
2025-02-19 13:23   ` [PATCH v2 03/16] builtin/update-ref: skip ambiguity checks when parsing object IDs Patrick Steinhardt
2025-02-19 18:21     ` Justin Tobler
2025-02-20  8:05       ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-02-19 13:23   ` [PATCH v2 04/16] refs: introduce function to batch refname availability checks Patrick Steinhardt
2025-02-19 13:23   ` [PATCH v2 05/16] refs/reftable: " Patrick Steinhardt
2025-02-19 13:23   ` [PATCH v2 06/16] refs/files: batch refname availability checks for normal transactions Patrick Steinhardt
2025-02-19 13:23   ` [PATCH v2 07/16] refs/files: batch refname availability checks for initial transactions Patrick Steinhardt
2025-02-19 13:23   ` [PATCH v2 08/16] refs: stop re-verifying common prefixes for availability Patrick Steinhardt
2025-02-19 13:23   ` [PATCH v2 09/16] refs/iterator: separate lifecycle from iteration Patrick Steinhardt
2025-02-19 13:23   ` [PATCH v2 10/16] refs/iterator: provide infrastructure to re-seek iterators Patrick Steinhardt
2025-02-24 13:08     ` shejialuo
2025-02-25  7:39       ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-02-19 13:23   ` [PATCH v2 11/16] refs/iterator: implement seeking for merged iterators Patrick Steinhardt
2025-02-24 13:37     ` shejialuo
2025-02-25  7:39       ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-02-19 13:23   ` [PATCH v2 12/16] refs/iterator: implement seeking for reftable iterators Patrick Steinhardt
2025-02-24 14:00     ` shejialuo
2025-02-25  7:39       ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-02-19 13:23   ` [PATCH v2 13/16] refs/iterator: implement seeking for ref-cache iterators Patrick Steinhardt
2025-02-24 14:49     ` shejialuo
2025-02-25  7:39       ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-02-19 13:23   ` [PATCH v2 14/16] refs/iterator: implement seeking for `packed-ref` iterators Patrick Steinhardt
2025-02-24 15:09     ` shejialuo
2025-02-25  7:39       ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-02-25 12:07         ` shejialuo
2025-02-19 13:23   ` [PATCH v2 15/16] refs/iterator: implement seeking for "files" iterators Patrick Steinhardt
2025-02-19 13:23   ` [PATCH v2 16/16] refs: reuse iterators when determining refname availability Patrick Steinhardt
2025-02-24 15:14     ` shejialuo
2025-02-24 15:18   ` [PATCH v2 00/16] refs: batch refname availability checks shejialuo
2025-02-25  7:39     ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-02-25  8:55 ` [PATCH v3 " Patrick Steinhardt
2025-02-25  8:55   ` [PATCH v3 01/16] object-name: introduce `repo_get_oid_with_flags()` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-02-25  8:55   ` [PATCH v3 02/16] object-name: allow skipping ambiguity checks in `get_oid()` family Patrick Steinhardt
2025-02-25  8:55   ` [PATCH v3 03/16] builtin/update-ref: skip ambiguity checks when parsing object IDs Patrick Steinhardt
2025-02-26 22:26     ` Junio C Hamano [this message]
2025-02-27 11:57       ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-02-25  8:55   ` [PATCH v3 04/16] refs: introduce function to batch refname availability checks Patrick Steinhardt
2025-02-25  8:55   ` [PATCH v3 05/16] refs/reftable: " Patrick Steinhardt
2025-02-25  8:55   ` [PATCH v3 06/16] refs/files: batch refname availability checks for normal transactions Patrick Steinhardt
2025-02-25  8:55   ` [PATCH v3 07/16] refs/files: batch refname availability checks for initial transactions Patrick Steinhardt
2025-02-25  8:55   ` [PATCH v3 08/16] refs: stop re-verifying common prefixes for availability Patrick Steinhardt
2025-02-25  8:55   ` [PATCH v3 09/16] refs/iterator: separate lifecycle from iteration Patrick Steinhardt
2025-02-25  8:55   ` [PATCH v3 10/16] refs/iterator: provide infrastructure to re-seek iterators Patrick Steinhardt
2025-02-25  8:55   ` [PATCH v3 11/16] refs/iterator: implement seeking for merged iterators Patrick Steinhardt
2025-02-25  8:55   ` [PATCH v3 12/16] refs/iterator: implement seeking for reftable iterators Patrick Steinhardt
2025-02-25  8:55   ` [PATCH v3 13/16] refs/iterator: implement seeking for ref-cache iterators Patrick Steinhardt
2025-02-25  8:56   ` [PATCH v3 14/16] refs/iterator: implement seeking for packed-ref iterators Patrick Steinhardt
2025-02-25  8:56   ` [PATCH v3 15/16] refs/iterator: implement seeking for files iterators Patrick Steinhardt
2025-02-25  8:56   ` [PATCH v3 16/16] refs: reuse iterators when determining refname availability Patrick Steinhardt
2025-02-28  9:26 ` [PATCH v4 00/16] refs: batch refname availability checks Patrick Steinhardt
2025-02-28  9:26   ` [PATCH v4 01/16] object-name: introduce `repo_get_oid_with_flags()` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-02-28  9:26   ` [PATCH v4 02/16] object-name: allow skipping ambiguity checks in `get_oid()` family Patrick Steinhardt
2025-03-06 13:21     ` Karthik Nayak
2025-02-28  9:26   ` [PATCH v4 03/16] builtin/update-ref: skip ambiguity checks when parsing object IDs Patrick Steinhardt
2025-02-28  9:26   ` [PATCH v4 04/16] refs: introduce function to batch refname availability checks Patrick Steinhardt
2025-03-06 13:47     ` Karthik Nayak
2025-02-28  9:26   ` [PATCH v4 05/16] refs/reftable: " Patrick Steinhardt
2025-03-06 14:00     ` Karthik Nayak
2025-03-06 14:12       ` Karthik Nayak
2025-03-06 15:13         ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-02-28  9:26   ` [PATCH v4 06/16] refs/files: batch refname availability checks for normal transactions Patrick Steinhardt
2025-02-28  9:26   ` [PATCH v4 07/16] refs/files: batch refname availability checks for initial transactions Patrick Steinhardt
2025-03-06 14:10     ` Karthik Nayak
2025-02-28  9:26   ` [PATCH v4 08/16] refs: stop re-verifying common prefixes for availability Patrick Steinhardt
2025-02-28  9:26   ` [PATCH v4 09/16] refs/iterator: separate lifecycle from iteration Patrick Steinhardt
2025-02-28  9:26   ` [PATCH v4 10/16] refs/iterator: provide infrastructure to re-seek iterators Patrick Steinhardt
2025-02-28  9:26   ` [PATCH v4 11/16] refs/iterator: implement seeking for merged iterators Patrick Steinhardt
2025-02-28  9:26   ` [PATCH v4 12/16] refs/iterator: implement seeking for reftable iterators Patrick Steinhardt
2025-03-06 14:16     ` Karthik Nayak
2025-02-28  9:26   ` [PATCH v4 13/16] refs/iterator: implement seeking for ref-cache iterators Patrick Steinhardt
2025-02-28  9:26   ` [PATCH v4 14/16] refs/iterator: implement seeking for packed-ref iterators Patrick Steinhardt
2025-02-28  9:26   ` [PATCH v4 15/16] refs/iterator: implement seeking for files iterators Patrick Steinhardt
2025-02-28  9:26   ` [PATCH v4 16/16] refs: reuse iterators when determining refname availability Patrick Steinhardt
2025-03-06 14:20   ` [PATCH v4 00/16] refs: batch refname availability checks Karthik Nayak
2025-03-06 15:08 ` [PATCH v5 " Patrick Steinhardt
2025-03-06 15:08   ` [PATCH v5 01/16] object-name: introduce `repo_get_oid_with_flags()` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-03-06 15:08   ` [PATCH v5 02/16] object-name: allow skipping ambiguity checks in `get_oid()` family Patrick Steinhardt
2025-03-12 12:12     ` shejialuo
2025-03-06 15:08   ` [PATCH v5 03/16] builtin/update-ref: skip ambiguity checks when parsing object IDs Patrick Steinhardt
2025-03-06 15:08   ` [PATCH v5 04/16] refs: introduce function to batch refname availability checks Patrick Steinhardt
2025-03-12 12:36     ` shejialuo
2025-03-12 12:44       ` shejialuo
2025-03-12 15:36       ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-03-06 15:08   ` [PATCH v5 05/16] refs/reftable: " Patrick Steinhardt
2025-03-12 12:54     ` shejialuo
2025-03-12 15:36       ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-03-06 15:08   ` [PATCH v5 06/16] refs/files: batch refname availability checks for normal transactions Patrick Steinhardt
2025-03-12 12:58     ` shejialuo
2025-03-12 15:36       ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-03-06 15:08   ` [PATCH v5 07/16] refs/files: batch refname availability checks for initial transactions Patrick Steinhardt
2025-03-12 13:06     ` shejialuo
2025-03-12 15:36       ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-03-06 15:08   ` [PATCH v5 08/16] refs: stop re-verifying common prefixes for availability Patrick Steinhardt
2025-03-12 13:22     ` shejialuo
2025-03-12 15:36       ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-03-06 15:08   ` [PATCH v5 09/16] refs/iterator: separate lifecycle from iteration Patrick Steinhardt
2025-03-12 13:45     ` shejialuo
2025-03-12 15:36       ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-03-06 15:08   ` [PATCH v5 10/16] refs/iterator: provide infrastructure to re-seek iterators Patrick Steinhardt
2025-03-06 15:08   ` [PATCH v5 11/16] refs/iterator: implement seeking for merged iterators Patrick Steinhardt
2025-03-06 15:08   ` [PATCH v5 12/16] refs/iterator: implement seeking for reftable iterators Patrick Steinhardt
2025-03-06 15:08   ` [PATCH v5 13/16] refs/iterator: implement seeking for ref-cache iterators Patrick Steinhardt
2025-03-06 15:08   ` [PATCH v5 14/16] refs/iterator: implement seeking for packed-ref iterators Patrick Steinhardt
2025-03-06 15:08   ` [PATCH v5 15/16] refs/iterator: implement seeking for files iterators Patrick Steinhardt
2025-03-06 15:08   ` [PATCH v5 16/16] refs: reuse iterators when determining refname availability Patrick Steinhardt
2025-03-06 15:32   ` [PATCH v5 00/16] refs: batch refname availability checks Karthik Nayak
2025-03-12 14:03   ` shejialuo
2025-03-12 15:56 ` [PATCH v6 " Patrick Steinhardt
2025-03-12 15:56   ` [PATCH v6 01/16] object-name: introduce `repo_get_oid_with_flags()` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-03-12 15:56   ` [PATCH v6 02/16] object-name: allow skipping ambiguity checks in `get_oid()` family Patrick Steinhardt
2025-03-12 15:56   ` [PATCH v6 03/16] builtin/update-ref: skip ambiguity checks when parsing object IDs Patrick Steinhardt
2025-03-12 15:56   ` [PATCH v6 04/16] refs: introduce function to batch refname availability checks Patrick Steinhardt
2025-03-12 15:56   ` [PATCH v6 05/16] refs/reftable: " Patrick Steinhardt
2025-03-12 15:56   ` [PATCH v6 06/16] refs/files: batch refname availability checks for normal transactions Patrick Steinhardt
2025-03-12 15:56   ` [PATCH v6 07/16] refs/files: batch refname availability checks for initial transactions Patrick Steinhardt
2025-03-12 15:56   ` [PATCH v6 08/16] refs: stop re-verifying common prefixes for availability Patrick Steinhardt
2025-03-12 15:56   ` [PATCH v6 09/16] refs/iterator: separate lifecycle from iteration Patrick Steinhardt
2025-03-12 15:56   ` [PATCH v6 10/16] refs/iterator: provide infrastructure to re-seek iterators Patrick Steinhardt
2025-03-12 15:56   ` [PATCH v6 11/16] refs/iterator: implement seeking for merged iterators Patrick Steinhardt
2025-03-12 15:56   ` [PATCH v6 12/16] refs/iterator: implement seeking for reftable iterators Patrick Steinhardt
2025-03-12 15:56   ` [PATCH v6 13/16] refs/iterator: implement seeking for ref-cache iterators Patrick Steinhardt
2025-03-12 15:56   ` [PATCH v6 14/16] refs/iterator: implement seeking for packed-ref iterators Patrick Steinhardt
2025-04-03 19:56     ` Elijah Newren
2025-04-03 22:18       ` brian m. carlson
2025-04-04  7:18         ` shejialuo
2025-04-04 10:00       ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-04-04 10:05         ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-04-04 10:59           ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-03-12 15:56   ` [PATCH v6 15/16] refs/iterator: implement seeking for files iterators Patrick Steinhardt
2025-03-12 15:56   ` [PATCH v6 16/16] refs: reuse iterators when determining refname availability Patrick Steinhardt
2025-03-13  2:57   ` [PATCH v6 00/16] refs: batch refname availability checks shejialuo

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