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From: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
To: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>
Cc: Jonathan Nieder <jrnieder@gmail.com>, git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Reachability lists in git
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2014 13:11:51 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <xmqq61ecusbs.fsf@gitster.dls.corp.google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <xmqqa93ousme.fsf@gitster.dls.corp.google.com> (Junio C. Hamano's message of "Tue, 18 Nov 2014 13:05:29 -0800")

Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com> writes:

> Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu> writes:
>
>> On Tue, 18 Nov 2014, Jonathan Nieder wrote:
>>
>>> Alan Stern wrote:
>>> 
>>> > Tracking down regressions.  Bisection isn't perfect.  Suppose a
>>> > bisection run ends up saying that B is the first bad commit.  It's easy
>>> > enough to build B and test it, to verify that it really is bad.
>>> >
>>> > But to be sure that B introduced the fault, it would help to find the
>>> > latest commit that doesn't include B's changes -- that is, the latest
>>> > commit that B isn't reachable from (or the maximal elements in the set
>>> > of all such commits).
>>> 
>>> Isn't that B^ (or B^ and B^2, if B is a merge)?
>>
>> No.  Here's a simple example:
>>
>>             Y
>>            /
>>           /
>>          X--B
>>
>> In this diagram, X = B^.  But B isn't reachable from either X or Y, 
>> whereas it is reachable from one of X's children (namely Y).
> ...
>
> Why do you say B is reachable from Y?
>
> If you mean that B is a merge between X and Y, then that is already
> covered by what Jonathan wrote "(or B^ and B^2 if B is a merge)".
>
>     X----Y
>      \    \
>       .----B
> ...

No, that cannot be what you meant.  I was confused.  The above
picture does not make B reachable from Y (it is the other way
around: B reaches Y).  The topology where B isn't reachable from
either X or Y and is reachable from Y would be

	X---Y	i.e. B = Y^2, X = Y^1 = B^1 
         \ /  
          B

If B is broken, and X is not, then Y would be contaminated by the
breakage B introduces relative to X, unless Y is an evil merge and
fixed that breakage while merging.

In any case, even if Y is found to be broken, its parent B is
already broken, so that does not place the blame on Y, does it?

Still confused why you feel Y is any significant...

  reply	other threads:[~2014-11-18 21:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-11-18 19:03 Reachability lists in git Alan Stern
2014-11-18 19:41 ` Jonathan Nieder
2014-11-18 20:13   ` Junio C Hamano
2014-11-18 20:22     ` Jonathan Nieder
2014-11-18 20:27       ` Jonathan Nieder
2014-11-18 20:33       ` Junio C Hamano
2014-11-18 20:29   ` Alan Stern
2014-11-18 20:32     ` Jonathan Nieder
2014-11-18 20:45       ` Alan Stern
2014-11-18 21:05         ` Junio C Hamano
2014-11-18 21:11           ` Junio C Hamano [this message]
2014-11-18 21:16           ` Alan Stern
2014-11-18 21:22             ` Junio C Hamano
2014-11-18 21:37               ` Alan Stern

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