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From: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
To: Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
Cc: Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget <gitgitgadget@gmail.com>,
	git@vger.kernel.org,  Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de,  ps@pks.im,
	james@jamesliu.io,  Derrick Stolee <stolee@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/7] [RFC] advice: refuse to output if stderr not TTY
Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2024 09:39:20 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <xmqq7cc925l3.fsf@gitster.g> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240821154001.GA506216@coredump.intra.peff.net> (Jeff King's message of "Wed, 21 Aug 2024 11:40:01 -0400")

Jeff King <peff@peff.net> writes:

> Playing devil's advocate for a moment: what about programs that read
> stderr but intend to relay the output to the user?
>
> For example, programs running on the server side of a push are spawned
> by receive-pack with their stderr fed into a muxer that ships it to the
> client, who then dumps it to the user's terminal. Would we ever want to
> see their advice?
>
> My guess is "conceivably yes", though I don't know of a specific example
> (and in fact, I've seen the "your hook was ignored because it's not
> executable" advice coming from a server, which was actually more of an
> annoyance on the client side).

Ah, I should have waited to think about the topic before reading
what you wrote.  Yes, this is a huge downside.

> Looking over patch 7, I think the escape hatch for all of these cases
> would be setting GIT_ADVICE=1. Which isn't too bad, but it does require
> some action. I'm not sure if it is worth it (but then, I am not all that
> sympathetic to the script you mentioned that was trying to be too clever
> about parsing stderr).

This too.

  reply	other threads:[~2024-08-21 16:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-08-21 11:02 [PATCH 0/7] [RFC] advice: refuse to output if stderr not TTY Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2024-08-21 11:02 ` [PATCH 1/7] t1000-2000: add GIT_ADVICE=1 for advice tests Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2024-08-21 11:02 ` [PATCH 2/7] t3000-4000: add GIT_ADVICE=1 to " Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2024-08-21 11:02 ` [PATCH 3/7] t5000: " Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2024-08-21 11:02 ` [PATCH 4/7] t6000: " Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2024-08-21 11:02 ` [PATCH 5/7] t7000: " Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2024-08-21 11:02 ` [PATCH 6/7] t7508/12: set GIT_ADVICE=1 across all tests Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2024-08-21 11:02 ` [PATCH 7/7] advice: refuse to output if stderr not TTY Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2024-08-21 15:40 ` [PATCH 0/7] [RFC] " Jeff King
2024-08-21 16:39   ` Junio C Hamano [this message]
2024-08-21 16:36 ` Junio C Hamano
2024-08-22  6:19   ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-08-22  6:03 ` Gabor Gombas
2024-08-22 13:15 ` Derrick Stolee
2024-08-22 16:25   ` Junio C Hamano

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