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From: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
To: Phillip Wood <phillip.wood123@gmail.com>
Cc: Eslam reda ragheb via GitGitGadget <gitgitgadget@gmail.com>,
	git@vger.kernel.org,  eslam reda <eslam.reda.div@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 02/10] repo: add path keys to repo info
Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2026 22:42:42 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <xmqq8qca68bh.fsf@gitster.g> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <58d46ec7-99cd-4878-b05d-a378ca119a68@gmail.com> (Phillip Wood's message of "Sun, 1 Mar 2026 10:36:52 +0000")

Phillip Wood <phillip.wood123@gmail.com> writes:

>> FWIW "git rev-parse --show-toplevel" dies with "must be run in a
>> work tree".  Better or worse,
>> 
>> 	rm -fr new
>> 	git init new
>> 	cd new/.git && git rev-parse --show-toplevel
>> 
>> also dies the same way, which I am not sure we want to inherit when
>> we are making a new interrogator command.
>
> Yes, I think printing an empty value after the key would be better - I 
> don't think there are any paths where we care about the distinction 
> between NULL and ""

If the new and safer variant of the command should signal "error" by
giving an empty string, it would work with its "--show-toplevel"
equivalent run in a bare repository.  In a working tree, it would
give a full/absolute path, and never be an empty string.  I am still
unsure what that new and safer one should do from inside the .git
directory.  "rev-parse --show-toplevel" dies.  $(cd .. && pwd) may
be another plausible and arguably more useful answer.

Your idea of equiating NULL and "", I do not think it would work
well with "git rev-parse --show-cdup" equivalent.  The command will
give us an empty string from the top-level of the working tree.

Curiously, in this sequence

	rm -fr new
	git init new
	cd new/.git && git rev-parse --show-cdup
	cd objects && git rev-parse --show-cdup

two "rev-parse" do not die with "must be run in a work tree", and
worse yet, they do not give you ".." or "../../", either.

It seems that one rule of "rev-parse --show-<some-path>" is that
"when you are inside .git directory of a non-bare repository, we'd
behave as if you are in a bare repository as if its working tree
does not exist", and the above is consistent with that rule.
"--show-cdup" does not fail but gives an empty string when run
anywhere in a bare repository.

But among "rev-parse --show-<anything>" that are about working tree
paths, there seems no unifying rule on what to do when in a bare
repsitory.  As we already saw, "--show-toplevel" dies without a
working tree.  This reflects the history of rev-parse that grew
organizally without a grand design.

If we are adding new and safer interface to these pieces of
information to "repo info", we may want to straighten these rules.


  reply	other threads:[~2026-03-02  6:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-02-22 18:28 [PATCH 0/3] repo: extend info path reporting and structure statistics eslam reda via GitGitGadget
2026-02-22 18:28 ` [PATCH 1/3] repo: extend info paths " eslam-reda-div via GitGitGadget
2026-02-22 20:35   ` Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2026-02-23  3:02   ` Justin Tobler
2026-02-22 18:28 ` [PATCH 2/3] t1900,t1901: make repo tests hash-agnostic and wc-portable Eslam reda ragheb via GitGitGadget
2026-02-22 20:46   ` Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2026-02-22 18:28 ` [PATCH 3/3] t1900,t1901: fix test portability issues Eslam reda ragheb via GitGitGadget
2026-02-22 22:37 ` [PATCH 0/3] repo: extend info path reporting and structure statistics Junio C Hamano
2026-02-23 14:21 ` [PATCH v2 0/9] " eslam reda via GitGitGadget
2026-02-23 14:21   ` [PATCH v2 1/9] repo: teach info context and category keys Eslam reda ragheb via GitGitGadget
2026-02-23 14:21   ` [PATCH v2 2/9] repo: add path keys to repo info Eslam reda ragheb via GitGitGadget
2026-02-23 14:21   ` [PATCH v2 4/9] repo: add structure max object size metrics Eslam reda ragheb via GitGitGadget
2026-02-23 14:21   ` [PATCH v2 5/9] repo: add structure topology and path-depth metrics Eslam reda ragheb via GitGitGadget
2026-02-23 14:21   ` [PATCH v2 6/9] repo: add aggregate structure totals to keyvalue output Eslam reda ragheb via GitGitGadget
2026-02-23 14:21   ` [PATCH v2 7/9] t1900: cover repo info path keys and path-format Eslam reda ragheb via GitGitGadget
2026-02-23 14:21   ` [PATCH v2 8/9] t1901: extend structure metric coverage and portability Eslam reda ragheb via GitGitGadget
2026-02-23 14:21   ` [PATCH v2 9/9] docs: describe repo info path keys and structure metrics Eslam reda ragheb via GitGitGadget
2026-02-23 19:43   ` [PATCH v3 0/5] repo: extend info path reporting and structure statistics eslam reda via GitGitGadget
2026-02-23 19:43     ` [PATCH v3 1/5] repo: teach info context and category keys Eslam reda ragheb via GitGitGadget
2026-02-23 19:43     ` [PATCH v3 2/5] repo: add path keys to repo info Eslam reda ragheb via GitGitGadget
2026-02-23 19:43     ` [PATCH v3 3/5] repo: add --path-format for info path output Eslam reda ragheb via GitGitGadget
2026-02-23 19:43     ` [PATCH v3 4/5] t1900: cover repo info path keys and path-format Eslam reda ragheb via GitGitGadget
2026-02-23 19:43     ` [PATCH v3 5/5] docs: describe repo info path keys Eslam reda ragheb via GitGitGadget
2026-02-26 21:14     ` [PATCH v4 00/10] repo info: add category/path keys and --path-format eslam reda via GitGitGadget
2026-02-26 21:14       ` [PATCH v4 01/10] repo: teach info context and category keys Eslam reda ragheb via GitGitGadget
2026-02-26 23:21         ` Junio C Hamano
2026-02-26 21:14       ` [PATCH v4 02/10] repo: add path keys to repo info Eslam reda ragheb via GitGitGadget
2026-02-26 23:29         ` Junio C Hamano
2026-02-27  9:04         ` Phillip Wood
2026-02-27 19:51           ` Junio C Hamano
2026-03-01 10:36             ` Phillip Wood
2026-03-02  6:42               ` Junio C Hamano [this message]
2026-02-26 21:14       ` [PATCH v4 03/10] repo: add --path-format for info path output Eslam reda ragheb via GitGitGadget
2026-02-26 21:14       ` [PATCH v4 04/10] repo: add structure max object size metrics Eslam reda ragheb via GitGitGadget
2026-02-26 21:14       ` [PATCH v4 05/10] repo: add structure topology and path-depth metrics Eslam reda ragheb via GitGitGadget
2026-02-26 21:14       ` [PATCH v4 06/10] repo: add aggregate structure totals to keyvalue output Eslam reda ragheb via GitGitGadget
2026-02-26 21:14       ` [PATCH v4 07/10] t1900: cover repo info path keys and path-format Eslam reda ragheb via GitGitGadget
2026-02-26 21:14       ` [PATCH v4 08/10] t1901: extend structure metric coverage and portability Eslam reda ragheb via GitGitGadget
2026-02-26 21:14       ` [PATCH v4 09/10] docs: describe repo info path keys and structure metrics Eslam reda ragheb via GitGitGadget
2026-02-26 21:14       ` [PATCH v4 10/10] repo: reduce repetition in structure keyvalue output Eslam reda ragheb via GitGitGadget
2026-02-27 19:30       ` [PATCH v5 00/11] repo info: add category/path keys and --path-format eslam reda via GitGitGadget
2026-02-27 19:30         ` [PATCH v5 01/11] repo: teach info context and category keys Eslam reda ragheb via GitGitGadget
2026-02-27 21:42           ` Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2026-02-27 19:30         ` [PATCH v5 02/11] repo: add path keys to repo info Eslam reda ragheb via GitGitGadget
2026-02-27 19:30         ` [PATCH v5 03/11] repo: add --path-format for info path output Eslam reda ragheb via GitGitGadget
2026-02-27 19:30         ` [PATCH v5 04/11] repo: add structure max object size metrics Eslam reda ragheb via GitGitGadget
2026-02-27 19:30         ` [PATCH v5 05/11] repo: add structure topology and path-depth metrics Eslam reda ragheb via GitGitGadget
2026-02-27 19:30         ` [PATCH v5 06/11] repo: add aggregate structure totals to keyvalue output Eslam reda ragheb via GitGitGadget
2026-02-27 19:30         ` [PATCH v5 07/11] t1900: cover repo info path keys and path-format Eslam reda ragheb via GitGitGadget
2026-02-27 19:30         ` [PATCH v5 08/11] t1901: extend structure metric coverage and portability Eslam reda ragheb via GitGitGadget
2026-02-27 19:30         ` [PATCH v5 09/11] docs: describe repo info path keys and structure metrics Eslam reda ragheb via GitGitGadget
2026-02-27 19:30         ` [PATCH v5 10/11] repo: reduce repetition in structure keyvalue output Eslam reda ragheb via GitGitGadget
2026-02-27 19:30         ` [PATCH v5 11/11] repo: refine path keys for repo info Eslam reda ragheb via GitGitGadget
2026-03-01 10:33           ` Phillip Wood
2026-02-27 21:52         ` [PATCH v5 00/11] repo info: add category/path keys and --path-format Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2026-03-02  5:15         ` [PATCH v6 0/6] " eslam reda via GitGitGadget
2026-03-02  5:15           ` [PATCH v6 1/6] repo: introduce repo_info context plumbing Eslam reda ragheb via GitGitGadget
2026-03-02  5:15           ` [PATCH v6 2/6] repo: support category requests in repo info Eslam reda ragheb via GitGitGadget
2026-03-02  5:15           ` [PATCH v6 3/6] repo: add path keys to " Eslam reda ragheb via GitGitGadget
2026-03-02  5:15           ` [PATCH v6 4/6] repo: add --path-format for info path output Eslam reda ragheb via GitGitGadget
2026-03-02  5:15           ` [PATCH v6 5/6] t1900: cover repo info path keys and path-format Eslam reda ragheb via GitGitGadget
2026-03-02  5:15           ` [PATCH v6 6/6] docs: describe repo info path keys Eslam reda ragheb via GitGitGadget
2026-03-18 20:44           ` [PATCH v6 0/6] repo info: add category/path keys and --path-format Jialong Wang
2026-03-19  3:36             ` K Jayatheerth
2026-03-19 20:32               ` Jerry Wang
2026-03-20  1:49                 ` K Jayatheerth
2026-03-19 20:58           ` [PATCH v6 5/6] t1900: cover repo info path keys and path-format Jialong Wang
2026-03-19 20:59           ` [PATCH] t1900: cover repo info path keys in non-default layouts Jialong Wang

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