From: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
To: "Julia Evans via GitGitGadget" <gitgitgadget@gmail.com>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org, "D. Ben Knoble" <ben.knoble@gmail.com>,
Phillip Wood <phillip.wood123@gmail.com>,
Patrick Steinhardt <ps@pks.im>,
Karthik Nayak <karthik.188@gmail.com>,
Julia Evans <julia@jvns.ca>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 5/5] doc: git-rebase: update discussion of internals
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2025 14:14:23 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <xmqq8qjp1ryo.fsf@gitster.g> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5ab235b067b40e468185ee905f735ff73ccc9552.1754943127.git.gitgitgadget@gmail.com> (Julia Evans via GitGitGadget's message of "Mon, 11 Aug 2025 20:12:07 +0000")
"Julia Evans via GitGitGadget" <gitgitgadget@gmail.com> writes:
> From: Julia Evans <julia@jvns.ca>
>
> - make it clearer that we're talking about a multistep process
> - give a more technically accurate description how rebase works with the
> merge backend.
> - condense the explanation of how git rebase skips commits with the same
> textual changes into a single bullet point and remove the explanatory
> diagram. Lots of things which are more complicated are already being
> explained without a diagram.
> - remove the explanation of how exactly `--fork-point` and `--root`
> work since that information is in the OPTIONS section
> - put all discussion of `ORIG_HEAD` inside the note
>
> Signed-off-by: Julia Evans <julia@jvns.ca>
> ---
> Documentation/git-rebase.adoc | 66 ++++++++++++-----------------------
> 1 file changed, 23 insertions(+), 43 deletions(-)
>
> diff --git a/Documentation/git-rebase.adoc b/Documentation/git-rebase.adoc
> index 750f5e67e4c3..b4e5519d2839 100644
> --- a/Documentation/git-rebase.adoc
> +++ b/Documentation/git-rebase.adoc
> @@ -68,51 +68,31 @@ linkgit:git-config[1] for details) and the `--fork-point` option is
> assumed. If you are currently not on any branch or if the current
> branch does not have a configured upstream, the rebase will abort.
>
> -All changes made by commits in the current branch but that are not
> -in `<upstream>` are saved to a temporary area. This is the same set
> -of commits that would be shown by `git log <upstream>..HEAD`; or by
> -`git log 'fork_point'..HEAD`, if `--fork-point` is active (see the
> -description on `--fork-point` below); or by `git log HEAD`, if the
> -`--root` option is specified.
> -
> -The current branch is reset to `<upstream>` or `<newbase>` if the
> -`--onto` option was supplied. This has the exact same effect as
> -`git reset --hard <upstream>` (or `<newbase>`). `ORIG_HEAD` is set
> -to point at the tip of the branch before the reset.
> +Here is a more detailed description of what `git rebase <upstream>` does:
Were there a sketchy description given elsewhere already? I
personally feel that giving too much details here would not
necessarily help readers' understanding. I'd prefer to see an
introduction read more like "The command conceptually does these
things in the following order", and leave the level of description
also to match that introduction. It may be just me, but when
somebody says "here is a detailed description", I would expect it to
contain little or no white lies mixed in, even for simplicity.
But of course others may have different opinions ;-)
> +1. Make a list of all commits in the current branch that are not in
> + `<upstream>`. This is the same set of commits that would be shown by `git log
> + <upstream>..HEAD`. You can use `--fork-point` or `--root` to change how this
> + list of commits is constructed.
Didn't somebody mention "git log --cherry-pick <upstream>..HEAD"?
If omission of it is for simplicity, that is fine, but that is
another reason why we do not want to say "more detaild description".
Also, shouldn't there be step #0 that says "If the <branch> to rebase
is given, check out that branch and make it current", for the HEAD
in this description to work correctly?
> +2. Check whether any of those commits are duplicates of commits already
> + in `<upstream>`, remove them from the list, and print out a warning about
> + each removed commit. You can use `--reapply-cherry-picks` to include
> + duplicate commits.
This is done as part of #1 above as part of a single invocation of
revision walk (i.e. a loop in sequencer.c:sequencer_make_script()
that calls get_revision() repeatedly).
> +3. Check out `<upstream>` (or `<newbase>` if the `--onto` option was
> + supplied) with the equivalent of `git checkout --detach <upstream>`.
> +4. Replay the commits, one by one, in order. This is similar to running
> + `git cherry-pick <commit>` for each commit. See REBASING MERGES for how merges
> + are handled.
> +5. Update your branch to point to the final commit with the equivalent
> + of `git switch -C <branch>`.
In step #3, you switched to <upstream> with "git checkout"; here you
use "git switch". Uninitiated readers would wonder what criteria
were used to decide which one among these two different commands to
use in steps #3 and #5, even though either would work fine. Because
this page is not where readers come to learn about the equivalence
of these two commands that are not essential to learning "git
rebase", it is better, so once you started with "git checkout", to
stick to it throughout to reduce the mental burden to first-time
learners.
Thanks.
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2025-08-08 15:24 [PATCH 0/5] doc: git-rebase: clarify DESCRIPTION section Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-08-08 15:24 ` [PATCH 1/5] doc: git-rebase: start with an example Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-08-08 16:30 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-08-08 17:13 ` Julia Evans
2025-08-08 18:11 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-08-08 15:24 ` [PATCH 2/5] doc: git rebase: dedup merge conflict discussion Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-08-08 17:48 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-08-08 15:24 ` [PATCH 3/5] doc: git rebase: clarify arguments syntax Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-08-08 15:24 ` [PATCH 4/5] doc: git-rebase: move --onto explanation down Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-08-08 15:24 ` [PATCH 5/5] doc: git-rebase: update discussion of internals Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-08-08 19:15 ` [PATCH v2 0/5] doc: git-rebase: clarify DESCRIPTION section Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-08-08 19:15 ` [PATCH v2 1/5] doc: git-rebase: start with an example Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-08-08 23:31 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-08-08 19:15 ` [PATCH v2 2/5] doc: git rebase: dedup merge conflict discussion Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-08-08 19:15 ` [PATCH v2 3/5] doc: git rebase: clarify arguments syntax Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-08-08 21:09 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-08-08 19:15 ` [PATCH v2 4/5] doc: git-rebase: move --onto explanation down Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-08-08 19:15 ` [PATCH v2 5/5] doc: git-rebase: update discussion of internals Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-08-08 21:54 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-08-08 22:52 ` [PATCH v3 0/5] doc: git-rebase: clarify DESCRIPTION section Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-08-08 22:52 ` [PATCH v3 1/5] doc: git-rebase: start with an example Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-08-08 22:52 ` [PATCH v3 2/5] doc: git rebase: dedup merge conflict discussion Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-08-08 22:52 ` [PATCH v3 3/5] doc: git rebase: clarify arguments syntax Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-08-08 22:52 ` [PATCH v3 4/5] doc: git-rebase: move --onto explanation down Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-08-08 22:52 ` [PATCH v3 5/5] doc: git-rebase: update discussion of internals Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-08-09 1:14 ` [PATCH v4 0/5] doc: git-rebase: clarify DESCRIPTION section Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-08-09 1:14 ` [PATCH v4 1/5] doc: git-rebase: start with an example Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-08-10 15:41 ` Phillip Wood
2025-08-11 8:46 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-11 9:13 ` Karthik Nayak
2025-08-11 12:27 ` Ben Knoble
2025-08-12 9:05 ` Karthik Nayak
2025-08-12 14:30 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-08-11 13:07 ` Phillip Wood
2025-08-12 9:07 ` Karthik Nayak
2025-08-12 17:07 ` D. Ben Knoble
2025-08-12 18:07 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-08-14 7:23 ` Karthik Nayak
2025-08-09 1:14 ` [PATCH v4 2/5] doc: git rebase: dedup merge conflict discussion Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-08-11 8:46 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-11 13:02 ` Phillip Wood
2025-08-09 1:14 ` [PATCH v4 3/5] doc: git rebase: clarify arguments syntax Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-08-09 1:14 ` [PATCH v4 4/5] doc: git-rebase: move --onto explanation down Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-08-09 14:55 ` D. Ben Knoble
2025-08-09 1:14 ` [PATCH v4 5/5] doc: git-rebase: update discussion of internals Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-08-10 15:42 ` Phillip Wood
2025-08-13 18:55 ` symmetric difference with --left-only vs. range notation D. Ben Knoble
2025-08-13 21:40 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-08-11 8:46 ` [PATCH v4 5/5] doc: git-rebase: update discussion of internals Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-11 12:29 ` Ben Knoble
2025-08-11 13:45 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-11 19:34 ` Julia Evans
2025-08-11 20:12 ` [PATCH v5 0/5] doc: git-rebase: clarify DESCRIPTION section Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-08-11 20:12 ` [PATCH v5 1/5] doc: git-rebase: start with an example Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-08-11 20:50 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-08-11 20:12 ` [PATCH v5 2/5] doc: git rebase: dedup merge conflict discussion Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-08-11 20:12 ` [PATCH v5 3/5] doc: git rebase: clarify arguments syntax Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-08-11 20:12 ` [PATCH v5 4/5] doc: git-rebase: move --onto explanation down Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-08-11 20:12 ` [PATCH v5 5/5] doc: git-rebase: update discussion of internals Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-08-11 21:14 ` Junio C Hamano [this message]
2025-08-11 21:51 ` [PATCH v6 0/5] doc: git-rebase: clarify DESCRIPTION section Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-08-11 21:51 ` [PATCH v6 1/5] doc: git-rebase: start with an example Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-08-11 21:51 ` [PATCH v6 2/5] doc: git rebase: dedup merge conflict discussion Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-08-11 21:51 ` [PATCH v6 3/5] doc: git rebase: clarify arguments syntax Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-08-11 21:51 ` [PATCH v6 4/5] doc: git-rebase: move --onto explanation down Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-08-11 21:51 ` [PATCH v6 5/5] doc: git-rebase: update discussion of internals Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-08-11 22:10 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-08-11 22:42 ` Julia Evans
2025-08-11 21:59 ` [PATCH v6 0/5] doc: git-rebase: clarify DESCRIPTION section Junio C Hamano
2025-08-12 13:49 ` [PATCH v7 " Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-08-12 13:49 ` [PATCH v7 1/5] doc: git-rebase: start with an example Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-08-12 13:49 ` [PATCH v7 2/5] doc: git rebase: dedup merge conflict discussion Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-08-12 13:49 ` [PATCH v7 3/5] doc: git rebase: clarify arguments syntax Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-08-12 13:49 ` [PATCH v7 4/5] doc: git-rebase: move --onto explanation down Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-08-12 13:49 ` [PATCH v7 5/5] doc: git-rebase: update discussion of internals Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-08-14 21:28 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-08-15 16:52 ` [PATCH v8 0/5] doc: git-rebase: clarify DESCRIPTION section Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-08-15 16:52 ` [PATCH v8 1/5] doc: git-rebase: start with an example Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-08-15 16:52 ` [PATCH v8 2/5] doc: git rebase: dedup merge conflict discussion Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-08-15 16:52 ` [PATCH v8 3/5] doc: git rebase: clarify arguments syntax Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-08-15 16:52 ` [PATCH v8 4/5] doc: git-rebase: move --onto explanation down Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-08-15 21:05 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-08-18 13:42 ` Phillip Wood
2025-08-18 17:06 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-08-19 15:03 ` Julia Evans
2025-08-19 19:45 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-08-15 16:52 ` [PATCH v8 5/5] doc: git-rebase: update discussion of internals Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-08-18 13:43 ` [PATCH v8 0/5] doc: git-rebase: clarify DESCRIPTION section Phillip Wood
2025-08-23 0:42 ` [PATCH v9 " Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-08-23 0:42 ` [PATCH v9 1/5] doc: git-rebase: start with an example Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-08-23 0:42 ` [PATCH v9 2/5] doc: git rebase: dedup merge conflict discussion Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-08-23 0:43 ` [PATCH v9 3/5] doc: git rebase: clarify arguments syntax Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-08-23 0:43 ` [PATCH v9 4/5] doc: git-rebase: move --onto explanation down Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-08-23 0:43 ` [PATCH v9 5/5] doc: git-rebase: update discussion of internals Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-08-13 13:31 ` [PATCH v6 0/5] doc: git-rebase: clarify DESCRIPTION section Phillip Wood
2025-08-13 15:33 ` Julia Evans
2025-08-14 21:18 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-08-15 10:25 ` Phillip Wood
2025-08-15 15:45 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-08-15 15:54 ` Phillip Wood
2025-08-15 15:56 ` Julia Evans
2025-08-15 10:25 ` Phillip Wood
2025-08-09 15:04 ` [PATCH v2 " D. Ben Knoble
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