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From: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
To: Christian Couder <christian.couder@gmail.com>
Cc: "Patrick Steinhardt" <ps@pks.im>, "Toon Claes" <toon@iotcl.com>,
	git@vger.kernel.org,
	"Kristoffer Haugsbakk" <kristofferhaugsbakk@fastmail.com>,
	"Taylor Blau" <me@ttaylorr.com>,
	"Derrick Stolee" <stolee@gmail.com>, "Jeff King" <peff@peff.net>,
	"Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason" <avarab@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 1/4] last-modified: new subcommand to show when files were last modified
Date: Sat, 02 Aug 2025 09:26:24 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <xmqq8qk1k7v3.fsf@gitster.g> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAP8UFD0Hrb-=TRNkueBw06Mgu6Hp1zO8qZVOFVLi8Qp4xkas+w@mail.gmail.com> (Christian Couder's message of "Sat, 2 Aug 2025 15:38:37 +0200")

Christian Couder <christian.couder@gmail.com> writes:

> Sorry for the noise.

When 6d0618a8 (Add Documentation/CodingGuidelines, 2007-11-08)
started a written guideline, the project already had two-year's
worth of accumulated code.  It was more like "we have been operating
without any written guideline, and so far it has been OK because
most of our contributors and reviewers were competent and
interaction among them amicable.  But now we are having more new
faces.  It is a good time to codify the rules that we have been
trying to adhere to.  It is possible we may have missed some
violations during our reviews and have already took bad apples in
the code base, but they are tolerated-but-undesirable exceptions.
These are the rules we have been trying to follow."  It is expected
that there are some corner cases that violate the writings without
meaning to.

Anybody reading the document should take it as an aspirational
guide, where existing violations (1) are not excuses to introduce
more deviations, (2) are "once written, it is often not worth the
code churn to go and fix them only for the sake of fixing them", and
(3) are very welcome to be rewritten if you are rewriting the code
that covers (not merely overlaps) the area.

And we writing or updating the document should try to make sure that
the aspirational nature is clear to readers.

So your intention to improve the wording of one single item was
surely appreciated, but I think the effort is better spent to make
sure that readers are aware that not just that single item, but
everything in the guideline, may have existing violations in the
code base, and they understand how they should treat these existing
violations, perhaps by polishing the preamble to the whole guideline
document somehow.

Thanks.


  reply	other threads:[~2025-08-02 16:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 135+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-04-22 17:46 [PATCH RFC 0/5] Introduce git-blame-tree(1) command Toon Claes
2025-04-22 17:46 ` [PATCH RFC 1/5] blame-tree: introduce new subcommand to blame files Toon Claes
2025-04-24 16:19   ` Junio C Hamano
2025-05-07 13:13     ` Toon Claes
2025-04-22 17:46 ` [PATCH RFC 2/5] t/perf: add blame-tree perf script Toon Claes
2025-04-22 17:46 ` [PATCH RFC 3/5] blame-tree: use Bloom filters when available Toon Claes
2025-04-22 17:46 ` [PATCH RFC 4/5] blame-tree: implement faster algorithm Toon Claes
2025-04-22 17:46 ` [PATCH RFC 5/5] blame-tree.c: initialize revision machinery without walk Toon Claes
2025-04-23 13:26 ` [PATCH RFC 0/5] Introduce git-blame-tree(1) command Marc Branchaud
2025-05-07 14:22   ` Toon Claes
2025-05-07 20:23     ` Marc Branchaud
2025-05-07 20:45       ` Junio C Hamano
2025-05-08 13:26         ` Marc Branchaud
2025-05-08 14:26           ` Junio C Hamano
2025-05-08 15:12             ` Marc Branchaud
2025-05-14 14:42               ` Toon Claes
2025-05-14 19:29                 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-05-14 21:15                   ` Marc Branchaud
2025-05-15 13:29                     ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-15 16:39                       ` Junio C Hamano
2025-05-15 17:39                         ` Marc Branchaud
2025-05-15 19:30                           ` Jeff King
2025-05-16  4:38                             ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-20  8:49                               ` Toon Claes
2025-05-15 17:30                       ` Marc Branchaud
2025-05-16  4:30                         ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-14 21:15                 ` Marc Branchaud
2025-05-07 20:49       ` Kristoffer Haugsbakk
2025-05-08 13:20         ` D. Ben Knoble
2025-05-08 13:26         ` Marc Branchaud
2025-05-08 13:18       ` D. Ben Knoble
2025-05-23  9:33 ` [PATCH RFC v2 0/5] Introduce git-last-modified(1) command Toon Claes
2025-05-23  9:33   ` [PATCH RFC v2 1/5] last-modified: new subcommand to show when files were last modified Toon Claes
2025-05-25 20:07     ` Justin Tobler
2025-06-05  8:32       ` Toon Claes
2025-05-27 10:39     ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-06-13  9:34       ` Toon Claes
2025-06-13  9:52         ` Kristoffer Haugsbakk
2025-05-23  9:33   ` [PATCH RFC v2 2/5] t/perf: add last-modified perf script Toon Claes
2025-05-23  9:33   ` [PATCH RFC v2 3/5] last-modified: use Bloom filters when available Toon Claes
2025-05-27 10:40     ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-06-13 11:05       ` Toon Claes
2025-05-23  9:33   ` [PATCH RFC v2 4/5] last-modified: implement faster algorithm Toon Claes
2025-05-27 10:39     ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-23  9:33   ` [PATCH RFC v2 5/5] last-modified: initialize revision machinery without walk Toon Claes
2025-05-27 10:39     ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-07-01 20:35   ` [PATCH RFC v2 0/5] Introduce git-last-modified(1) command Kristoffer Haugsbakk
2025-07-01 21:06     ` Junio C Hamano
2025-07-01 21:30       ` Kristoffer Haugsbakk
2025-07-02 13:00         ` Toon Claes
2025-07-09 15:53           ` Toon Claes
2025-07-09 17:00             ` Junio C Hamano
2025-06-30 18:49 ` [PATCH RFC v3 0/3] " Toon Claes
2025-06-30 18:49   ` [PATCH RFC v3 1/3] last-modified: new subcommand to show when files were last modified Toon Claes
2025-07-01 20:20     ` Kristoffer Haugsbakk
2025-07-02 11:51     ` Junio C Hamano
2025-06-30 18:49   ` [PATCH RFC v3 2/3] t/perf: add last-modified perf script Toon Claes
2025-06-30 18:49   ` [PATCH RFC v3 3/3] last-modified: use Bloom filters when available Toon Claes
2025-07-01 23:01   ` [PATCH RFC v3 0/3] Introduce git-last-modified(1) command Junio C Hamano
2025-07-09 15:26   ` [PATCH v4 " Toon Claes
2025-07-09 21:57     ` Junio C Hamano
2025-07-10 18:37       ` Junio C Hamano
2025-07-16 13:32     ` [PATCH v5 0/6] " Toon Claes
2025-07-16 13:35       ` [PATCH v5 1/6] last-modified: new subcommand to show when files were last modified Toon Claes
2025-07-18  0:02         ` Taylor Blau
2025-07-19  6:44           ` Jeff King
2025-07-22 15:50           ` Toon Claes
2025-08-01  9:09           ` Christian Couder
2025-08-01 16:59             ` Junio C Hamano
2025-07-16 13:35       ` [PATCH v5 2/6] t/perf: add last-modified perf script Toon Claes
2025-07-18  0:08         ` Taylor Blau
2025-07-22 15:52           ` Toon Claes
2025-07-16 13:35       ` [PATCH v5 3/6] last-modified: use Bloom filters when available Toon Claes
2025-07-18  0:16         ` Taylor Blau
2025-07-22 16:02           ` Toon Claes
2025-07-16 13:35       ` [PATCH v5 4/6] pretty: allow caller to disable indentation Toon Claes
2025-07-16 15:50         ` Junio C Hamano
2025-07-17 16:31           ` Toon Claes
2025-07-16 13:35       ` [PATCH v5 5/6] last-modified: support --extended format Toon Claes
2025-07-16 16:09         ` Junio C Hamano
2025-07-17 16:31           ` Toon Claes
2025-07-17 22:37         ` Junio C Hamano
2025-07-18 17:36           ` Junio C Hamano
2025-07-22 16:06             ` Toon Claes
2025-07-16 13:42       ` [PATCH v5 6/6] fixup! last-modified: use Bloom filters when available Toon Claes
2025-07-17 23:39       ` [PATCH v5 0/6] Introduce git-last-modified(1) command Taylor Blau
2025-07-22 15:35         ` Toon Claes
2025-07-30 17:59           ` Toon Claes
2025-07-31  7:45             ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-07-30 17:55       ` [PATCH v6 0/4] " Toon Claes
2025-07-31 18:40         ` Junio C Hamano
2025-07-31 23:57           ` Junio C Hamano
2025-08-05  9:33         ` [PATCH v7 0/3] " Toon Claes
2025-08-05 14:34           ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-05 16:21             ` Junio C Hamano
2025-08-05 16:34           ` Junio C Hamano
2025-08-05 16:55             ` Toon Claes
2025-08-05 17:20               ` Jean-Noël AVILA
2025-08-05 21:46                 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-08-06 12:01                   ` Toon Claes
2025-08-06 15:38                     ` Junio C Hamano
2025-08-28 22:44                       ` Junio C Hamano
2025-08-05 18:28               ` Junio C Hamano
2025-08-05  9:33         ` [PATCH v7 1/3] last-modified: new subcommand to show when files were last modified Toon Claes
2025-08-05  9:33         ` [PATCH v7 2/3] t/perf: add last-modified perf script Toon Claes
2025-08-05  9:33         ` [PATCH v7 3/3] last-modified: use Bloom filters when available Toon Claes
2025-07-30 17:55       ` [PATCH v6 1/4] last-modified: new subcommand to show when files were last modified Toon Claes
2025-07-31  6:42         ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-01 16:22           ` Toon Claes
2025-08-01 17:09             ` Junio C Hamano
2025-08-04  6:34               ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-04 17:14                 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-08-05  5:35                   ` Toon Claes
2025-08-01 20:34             ` Jean-Noël AVILA
2025-08-05  5:36               ` Toon Claes
2025-08-04  6:33             ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-01 10:18         ` Christian Couder
2025-08-01 10:22           ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-01 17:06             ` Junio C Hamano
2025-08-02  8:18               ` Christian Couder
2025-08-02 11:31                 ` Christian Couder
2025-08-02 13:38                   ` Christian Couder
2025-08-02 16:26                     ` Junio C Hamano [this message]
2025-08-04  6:35               ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-07-30 17:55       ` [PATCH v6 2/4] t/perf: add last-modified perf script Toon Claes
2025-07-30 17:55       ` [PATCH v6 3/4] commit-graph: export prepare_commit_graph() Toon Claes
2025-07-31  6:42         ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-07-30 17:55       ` [PATCH v6 4/4] last-modified: use Bloom filters when available Toon Claes
2025-07-31  6:43         ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-01 16:23           ` Toon Claes
2025-08-04  6:33             ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-07-09 15:26   ` [PATCH v4 1/3] last-modified: new subcommand to show when files were last modified Toon Claes
2025-07-09 15:26   ` [PATCH v4 2/3] t/perf: add last-modified perf script Toon Claes
2025-07-09 15:26   ` [PATCH v4 3/3] last-modified: use Bloom filters when available Toon Claes
2025-07-16 13:35   ` [PATCH v5 6/6] fixup! " Toon Claes

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