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From: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
To: Karthik Nayak <karthik.188@gmail.com>
Cc: chriscool@tuxfamily.org,  git@vger.kernel.org,
	 jltobler@gmail.com, phillip.wood123@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 5/6] check-whitespace: detect if no base_commit is provided
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2024 08:03:35 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <xmqqbk2tl8zc.fsf@gitster.g> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAOLa=ZQhcb7O4i9E=Xn+9ZbaNhiY0gzD_a2kTqriegF2o-Eeyw@mail.gmail.com> (Karthik Nayak's message of "Fri, 19 Jul 2024 01:33:21 -0700")

Karthik Nayak <karthik.188@gmail.com> writes:

> Thanks Junio for explaining with examples, really nice of you! I'm on
> the fence with this, even the existing change from the previous more
> verbose code. I know this is shorter, but it is always more readable to
> use the longer version with 'test'. I find it hard to remember the
> specifics.

You'd never remember unless you practice, but it boils down to one
question: is it reasonable to expect that most developers who need
to touch this code find it worth to learn to read and write shell
scripts well in this day and age?  The answer is probably no.

As you may remember, this R=${A-${B?}} dance started at

  https://lore.kernel.org/git/xmqqwmlpb8er.fsf@gitster.g/

where I said:

    ...
    in a separate "after the dust settles" clean-up #leftoverbits topic.

    We could replace the first 7 lines with a single-liner

       R=${CI_MERGE_REQUEST_TARGET_BRANCH_SHA-${CI_MERGE_REQUEST_DIFF_BASE_SHA?}}

    if we wanted to, but all of that will be mere clean-up changes.

Even the longhand to set a single R with if/elif cascade so that we
can have a single location that invokes ci/run-style-check.sh was
considered extra clean-up for #leftoverbits at least by me.

But after seeing you used the ${A-${B?}} dance, which is more
advanced than the #leftoverbits clean-up, I thought you were
interested in using such a construct that pursues parameter
expansion mastery, and that was the primary reason why the
demonstration in the message you are responding to was added.

I personally do not care too deeply which one to use wrt the
readability, but

	R=${A-${B?}}
	if test -z "$R"
	then
		error
	fi

looks strange and inconsistent by spreading the error check to two
places.  The code would be better off if it were

	R=${A-$B}
	if test -z "$R"
	then
		error
	fi

(or with R=${A:-$B}) instead.  Then it makes it clear that the
author wanted to take care of the error case with the if part.

  reply	other threads:[~2024-07-19 15:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 127+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-07-08  9:23 [PATCH 0/8] clang-format: add more rules and enable on CI Karthik Nayak
2024-07-08  9:23 ` [PATCH 1/8] clang-format: indent preprocessor directives after hash Karthik Nayak
2024-07-08 10:08   ` Chris Torek
2024-07-08 16:22   ` Junio C Hamano
2024-07-08 20:33     ` Karthik Nayak
2024-07-08 16:27   ` Re* " Junio C Hamano
2024-07-08  9:23 ` [PATCH 2/8] clang-format: avoid spacing around bitfield colon Karthik Nayak
2024-07-08  9:23 ` [PATCH 3/8] clang-format: ensure files end with newlines Karthik Nayak
2024-07-08 16:32   ` Junio C Hamano
2024-07-08  9:23 ` [PATCH 4/8] clang-format: replace deprecated option with 'SpacesInParens' Karthik Nayak
2024-07-08 16:32   ` Junio C Hamano
2024-07-08  9:23 ` [PATCH 5/8] clang-format: avoid braces on simple single-statement bodies Karthik Nayak
2024-07-08 16:48   ` Junio C Hamano
2024-07-08 20:25     ` Karthik Nayak
2024-07-12 15:24       ` Phillip Wood
2024-07-13 12:30         ` Karthik Nayak
2024-07-13 13:58           ` phillip.wood123
2024-07-13 14:16             ` Karthik Nayak
2024-07-08  9:23 ` [PATCH 6/8] clang-format: formalize some of the spacing rules Karthik Nayak
2024-07-08 16:54   ` Junio C Hamano
2024-07-08 17:26     ` Karthik Nayak
2024-07-08 16:56   ` Justin Tobler
2024-07-08 17:27     ` Karthik Nayak
2024-07-08 20:53   ` Eric Sunshine
2024-07-10 13:36     ` Karthik Nayak
2024-07-08  9:23 ` [PATCH 7/8] ci: run style check on GitHub and GitLab Karthik Nayak
2024-07-08 17:15   ` Junio C Hamano
2024-07-08 21:05     ` Karthik Nayak
2024-07-08 22:52     ` Re* " Junio C Hamano
2024-07-08 23:17       ` Justin Tobler
2024-07-09  0:56       ` brian m. carlson
2024-07-08 18:10   ` Justin Tobler
2024-07-08 21:16     ` Karthik Nayak
2024-07-09  0:22       ` Justin Tobler
2024-07-09  8:44         ` Karthik Nayak
2024-07-09 14:44           ` Justin Tobler
2024-07-10 13:38             ` Karthik Nayak
2024-07-08  9:23 ` [PATCH 8/8] check-whitespace: detect if no base_commit is provided Karthik Nayak
2024-07-08 10:18   ` Chris Torek
2024-07-08 10:35     ` Georg Pfuetzenreuter
2024-07-08 10:42       ` Chris Torek
2024-07-08 17:13         ` Karthik Nayak
2024-07-08 17:19         ` Junio C Hamano
2024-07-08 17:35   ` Junio C Hamano
2024-07-10 14:06     ` Karthik Nayak
2024-07-10 16:02       ` Junio C Hamano
2024-07-11  8:27         ` Karthik Nayak
2024-07-11 14:41           ` Junio C Hamano
2024-07-08 17:58   ` Justin Tobler
2024-07-10 14:12     ` Karthik Nayak
2024-07-08 10:06 ` [PATCH 0/8] clang-format: add more rules and enable on CI Chris Torek
2024-07-11  8:30 ` [PATCH v2 " Karthik Nayak
2024-07-11  8:30   ` [PATCH v2 1/8] clang-format: indent preprocessor directives after hash Karthik Nayak
2024-07-11  8:30   ` [PATCH v2 2/8] clang-format: avoid spacing around bitfield colon Karthik Nayak
2024-07-11  8:30   ` [PATCH v2 3/8] clang-format: ensure files end with newlines Karthik Nayak
2024-07-11  8:30   ` [PATCH v2 4/8] clang-format: replace deprecated option with 'SpacesInParens' Karthik Nayak
2024-07-11  8:30   ` [PATCH v2 5/8] clang-format: avoid braces on simple single-statement bodies Karthik Nayak
2024-07-11 16:40     ` Junio C Hamano
2024-07-12  8:48       ` Karthik Nayak
2024-07-12 15:09         ` Junio C Hamano
2024-07-12 15:29           ` Phillip Wood
2024-07-11  8:30   ` [PATCH v2 6/8] clang-format: formalize some of the spacing rules Karthik Nayak
2024-07-11  8:30   ` [PATCH v2 7/8] ci: run style check on GitHub and GitLab Karthik Nayak
2024-07-11  8:30   ` [PATCH v2 8/8] check-whitespace: detect if no base_commit is provided Karthik Nayak
2024-07-11 14:48     ` Justin Tobler
2024-07-11 16:16       ` Junio C Hamano
2024-07-12  8:51         ` Karthik Nayak
2024-07-12 15:12           ` Junio C Hamano
2024-07-11 18:11   ` [PATCH v2 0/8] clang-format: add more rules and enable on CI Junio C Hamano
2024-07-13 13:45   ` [PATCH v3 " Karthik Nayak
2024-07-13 13:45     ` [PATCH v3 1/8] clang-format: indent preprocessor directives after hash Karthik Nayak
2024-07-13 13:45     ` [PATCH v3 2/8] clang-format: avoid spacing around bitfield colon Karthik Nayak
2024-07-13 13:45     ` [PATCH v3 3/8] clang-format: ensure files end with newlines Karthik Nayak
2024-07-13 13:45     ` [PATCH v3 4/8] clang-format: replace deprecated option with 'SpacesInParens' Karthik Nayak
2024-07-13 13:45     ` [PATCH v3 5/8] clang-format: formalize some of the spacing rules Karthik Nayak
2024-07-13 13:45     ` [PATCH v3 6/8] ci: run style check on GitHub and GitLab Karthik Nayak
2024-07-13 15:47       ` Junio C Hamano
2024-07-13 13:45     ` [PATCH v3 7/8] check-whitespace: detect if no base_commit is provided Karthik Nayak
2024-07-13 13:45     ` [PATCH v3 8/8] ci/style-check: add `RemoveBracesLLVM` to '.clang-format' Karthik Nayak
2024-07-13 15:37       ` Junio C Hamano
2024-07-13 16:46         ` Karthik Nayak
2024-07-13 23:18           ` Ramsay Jones
2024-07-15  8:10             ` Karthik Nayak
2024-07-15 14:46               ` Junio C Hamano
2024-07-15 16:07                 ` Karthik Nayak
2024-07-15 16:36                   ` Junio C Hamano
2024-07-15 19:31                     ` Karthik Nayak
2024-07-15 19:45                       ` Junio C Hamano
2024-07-18  8:18                         ` Karthik Nayak
2024-07-18 14:05                           ` Junio C Hamano
2024-07-15  9:30     ` [PATCH v4 0/8] clang-format: add more rules and enable on CI Karthik Nayak
2024-07-15  9:30       ` [PATCH v4 1/8] clang-format: indent preprocessor directives after hash Karthik Nayak
2024-07-15  9:30       ` [PATCH v4 2/8] clang-format: avoid spacing around bitfield colon Karthik Nayak
2024-07-15  9:30       ` [PATCH v4 3/8] clang-format: ensure files end with newlines Karthik Nayak
2024-07-15  9:30       ` [PATCH v4 4/8] clang-format: replace deprecated option with 'SpacesInParens' Karthik Nayak
2024-07-15  9:30       ` [PATCH v4 5/8] clang-format: formalize some of the spacing rules Karthik Nayak
2024-07-15  9:30       ` [PATCH v4 6/8] ci: run style check on GitHub and GitLab Karthik Nayak
2024-07-15  9:30       ` [PATCH v4 7/8] check-whitespace: detect if no base_commit is provided Karthik Nayak
2024-07-15  9:30       ` [PATCH v4 8/8] ci/style-check: add `RemoveBracesLLVM` to '.clang-format' Karthik Nayak
2024-07-15 17:01         ` Junio C Hamano
2024-07-15 19:33           ` Karthik Nayak
2024-07-18  8:15       ` [PATCH v5 0/6] : add more rules and enable on CI Karthik Nayak
2024-07-18  8:16         ` [PATCH v5 1/6] clang-format: indent preprocessor directives after hash Karthik Nayak
2024-07-18  8:16         ` [PATCH v5 2/6] clang-format: avoid spacing around bitfield colon Karthik Nayak
2024-07-18  8:16         ` [PATCH v5 3/6] clang-format: formalize some of the spacing rules Karthik Nayak
2024-07-18  8:16         ` [PATCH v5 4/6] ci: run style check on GitHub and GitLab Karthik Nayak
2024-07-18 14:56           ` Junio C Hamano
2024-07-18 16:04             ` Junio C Hamano
2024-07-18  8:16         ` [PATCH v5 5/6] check-whitespace: detect if no base_commit is provided Karthik Nayak
2024-07-18 15:00           ` Junio C Hamano
2024-07-19  8:33             ` Karthik Nayak
2024-07-19 15:03               ` Junio C Hamano [this message]
2024-07-22  7:22                 ` Karthik Nayak
2024-07-18  8:16         ` [PATCH v5 6/6] ci/style-check: add `RemoveBracesLLVM` in CI job Karthik Nayak
2024-07-18 15:09         ` [PATCH v5 0/6] : add more rules and enable on CI Junio C Hamano
2024-07-23  8:21         ` [PATCH v6 0/6] clang-format: " Karthik Nayak
2024-07-23  8:21           ` [PATCH v6 1/6] clang-format: indent preprocessor directives after hash Karthik Nayak
2024-07-24  6:50             ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-07-24  8:55               ` Karthik Nayak
2024-07-23  8:21           ` [PATCH v6 2/6] clang-format: avoid spacing around bitfield colon Karthik Nayak
2024-07-23  8:21           ` [PATCH v6 3/6] clang-format: formalize some of the spacing rules Karthik Nayak
2024-07-23  8:21           ` [PATCH v6 4/6] ci: run style check on GitHub and GitLab Karthik Nayak
2024-07-23  8:21           ` [PATCH v6 5/6] check-whitespace: detect if no base_commit is provided Karthik Nayak
2024-07-23  8:21           ` [PATCH v6 6/6] ci/style-check: add `RemoveBracesLLVM` in CI job Karthik Nayak
2025-06-19 15:16             ` Junio C Hamano
2025-06-19 20:25               ` Karthik Nayak
2025-06-20  0:02                 ` Junio C Hamano

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