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From: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
To: Taylor Blau <me@ttaylorr.com>
Cc: Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget <gitgitgadget@gmail.com>,
	git@vger.kernel.org, sandals@crustytoothpaste.net,
	lenaic@lhuard.fr, Derrick Stolee <derrickstolee@github.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/6] maintenance: add get_random_minute()
Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2023 09:34:21 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <xmqqbkfha3xu.fsf@gitster.g> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZNJVycLBUIXqZ0Xb@nand.local> (Taylor Blau's message of "Tue, 8 Aug 2023 10:48:41 -0400")

Taylor Blau <me@ttaylorr.com> writes:

> I think that's an acceptable price to pay here, since we can drop the
> code to remember whether or not srand() has been called or not. Here's a
> patch that we could take in that direction:
> ...
>   - If a different function also calls `srand()`, the PRNG may start
>     generating repeated values (if that caller also initialized the PRNG
>     with `getpid()`).

Hmph, I didn't think about that one.  I do not think it can be a
viable attack vector to attack _this_ code, but the other function
might be.  But if the other function is worth attacking and
attackable, it ought to be using crypto-secure one and not srand(),
so this argument may not give us a good justification X-<.

Provided if code simplification is a good enough rationale, the
patch looks sensible, but I find its use of u64 a bit questionable
(though not wrong).  I would have expected that the type of "rand"
would be the same as backoff_ms and wait_ms, two variables involved
in the same expression.

Thanks.

> diff --git a/lockfile.c b/lockfile.c
> index 1d5ed01682..6587d407f4 100644
> --- a/lockfile.c
> +++ b/lockfile.c
> @@ -107,22 +107,17 @@ static int lock_file_timeout(struct lock_file *lk, const char *path,
>  	int n = 1;
>  	int multiplier = 1;
>  	long remaining_ms = 0;
> -	static int random_initialized = 0;
>
>  	if (timeout_ms == 0)
>  		return lock_file(lk, path, flags, mode);
>
> -	if (!random_initialized) {
> -		srand((unsigned int)getpid());
> -		random_initialized = 1;
> -	}
> -
>  	if (timeout_ms > 0)
>  		remaining_ms = timeout_ms;
>
>  	while (1) {
>  		long backoff_ms, wait_ms;
>  		int fd;
> +		uint64_t rand;
>
>  		fd = lock_file(lk, path, flags, mode);
>
> @@ -135,7 +130,10 @@ static int lock_file_timeout(struct lock_file *lk, const char *path,
>
>  		backoff_ms = multiplier * INITIAL_BACKOFF_MS;
>  		/* back off for between 0.75*backoff_ms and 1.25*backoff_ms */
> -		wait_ms = (750 + rand() % 500) * backoff_ms / 1000;
> +		if (csprng_bytes(&rand, sizeof(uint64_t)) < 0)
> +			return error_errno(_("unable to get random bytes for"
> +					     "lockfile backoff"));
> +		wait_ms = (750 + rand % 500) * backoff_ms / 1000;
>  		sleep_millisec(wait_ms);
>  		remaining_ms -= wait_ms;
>
> --
> 2.42.0.rc0.26.g802d811bac.dirty
>
> --- >8 ---
>
> Thanks,
> Taylor

  reply	other threads:[~2023-08-08 18:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-08-07 18:51 [PATCH 0/6] maintenance: schedule maintenance on a random minute Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2023-08-07 18:51 ` [PATCH 1/6] maintenance: add get_random_minute() Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2023-08-07 21:20   ` Taylor Blau
2023-08-07 23:53     ` Junio C Hamano
2023-08-08  0:22       ` Junio C Hamano
2023-08-08 14:48         ` Taylor Blau
2023-08-08 16:34           ` Junio C Hamano [this message]
2023-08-08 16:49             ` Junio C Hamano
2023-08-08 20:01               ` Taylor Blau
2023-08-08 17:28     ` Derrick Stolee
2023-08-08 20:04       ` Taylor Blau
2023-08-09 12:17         ` Derrick Stolee
2023-08-09 18:50           ` Junio C Hamano
2023-08-09 20:34             ` Taylor Blau
2023-08-07 18:51 ` [PATCH 2/6] maintenance: use random minute in launchctl scheduler Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2023-08-07 21:23   ` Taylor Blau
2023-08-07 18:51 ` [PATCH 3/6] maintenance: use random minute in Windows scheduler Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2023-08-07 18:51 ` [PATCH 4/6] maintenance: use random minute in cron scheduler Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2023-08-07 18:51 ` [PATCH 5/6] maintenance: swap method locations Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2023-08-07 21:24   ` Taylor Blau
2023-08-07 18:51 ` [PATCH 6/6] maintenance: use random minute in systemd scheduler Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2023-08-07 21:31   ` Taylor Blau
2023-08-08 13:49     ` Derrick Stolee
2023-08-08 20:05       ` Taylor Blau
2023-08-08  9:53   ` Phillip Wood
2023-08-08 13:03     ` Phillip Wood
2023-08-08 13:56     ` Derrick Stolee
2023-08-08 17:24       ` Derrick Stolee
2023-08-09 10:03         ` Phillip Wood
2023-08-08 12:08   ` Phillip Wood
2023-08-08 17:06     ` Derrick Stolee
2023-08-08 17:14       ` Derrick Stolee
2023-08-09 10:00         ` Phillip Wood
2023-08-10 20:39 ` [PATCH v2 0/8] maintenance: schedule maintenance on a random minute Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2023-08-10 20:39   ` [PATCH v2 1/8] maintenance: add get_random_minute() Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2023-08-10 21:25     ` Taylor Blau
2023-08-10 20:39   ` [PATCH v2 2/8] maintenance: use random minute in launchctl scheduler Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2023-08-10 20:39   ` [PATCH v2 3/8] maintenance: use random minute in Windows scheduler Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2023-08-10 20:39   ` [PATCH v2 4/8] maintenance: use random minute in cron scheduler Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2023-08-10 20:39   ` [PATCH v2 5/8] maintenance: swap method locations Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2023-08-10 20:39   ` [PATCH v2 6/8] maintenance: use random minute in systemd scheduler Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2023-08-14 11:26     ` Phillip Wood
2023-08-10 20:39   ` [PATCH v2 7/8] maintenance: fix systemd schedule overlaps Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2023-08-10 21:22     ` Junio C Hamano
2023-08-14 11:27     ` Phillip Wood
2023-08-10 20:39   ` [PATCH v2 8/8] maintenance: update schedule before config Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2023-08-14 11:28     ` Phillip Wood

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