"gmane:" search undocumented on lore.kernel.org/git

"gmane:" search undocumented on lore.kernel.org/git

[Philippe Blain]

Hello all,

I just noticed that the help page on lore.kernel.org/git does not mention the possibility of searching for messages using Gmane id’s, as the public-inbox.org/git help page does. 

The search works though, it’s just undocumented, so I thought I’d share; I don’t know how much control we have on the lore.kernel.org public-inbox installation. 

Cheers,
Philippe. 

Re: "gmane:" search undocumented on lore.kernel.org/git

[Eric Wong]

Philippe Blain <levraiphilippeblain@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello all,
> 
> I just noticed that the help page on lore.kernel.org/git does not mention the possibility of searching for messages using Gmane id’s, as the public-inbox.org/git help page does. 
> 
> The search works though, it’s just undocumented, so I thought I’d share; I don’t know how much control we have on the lore.kernel.org public-inbox installation. 

+Cc Konstantin who runs lore.

Unless you're getting load-balanced to differently configured
instances, I think it's luck that the "gmane:" queries you tried
work.

gmane:  doesn't seem configured on lore at all.  Compare:

	https://lore.kernel.org/git/?q=gmane:1
	https://public-inbox.org/git/?q=gmane:1

Re: "gmane:" search undocumented on lore.kernel.org/git

[Konstantin Ryabitsev]

On Mon, Dec 30, 2019 at 11:13:50PM +0000, Eric Wong wrote:
> Philippe Blain <levraiphilippeblain@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hello all,
> > 
> > I just noticed that the help page on lore.kernel.org/git does not mention the possibility of searching for messages using Gmane id’s, as the public-inbox.org/git help page does. 
> > 
> > The search works though, it’s just undocumented, so I thought I’d share; I don’t know how much control we have on the lore.kernel.org public-inbox installation. 
> 
> +Cc Konstantin who runs lore.
> 
> Unless you're getting load-balanced to differently configured
> instances, I think it's luck that the "gmane:" queries you tried
> work.
> 
> gmane:  doesn't seem configured on lore at all.  Compare:
> 
> 	https://lore.kernel.org/git/?q=gmane:1
> 	https://public-inbox.org/git/?q=gmane:1

I haven't configured them because I don't understand what benefit they 
serve. If someone can explain their benefit, I can consider adding this 
to the roadmap.

-K

Re: "gmane:" search undocumented on lore.kernel.org/git

[Jonathan Nieder]

Konstantin Ryabitsev wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 30, 2019 at 11:13:50PM +0000, Eric Wong wrote:

>> gmane:  doesn't seem configured on lore at all.  Compare:
>>
>> 	https://lore.kernel.org/git/?q=gmane:1
>> 	https://public-inbox.org/git/?q=gmane:1
>
> I haven't configured them because I don't understand what benefit they
> serve. If someone can explain their benefit, I can consider adding this
> to the roadmap.

They allow finding the messages referred to by historic gmane.org
links.  For example,

  http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.version-control.git/151297/focus=151435

refers to https://public-inbox.org/git/?q=gmane:151435, and

  $gmane/127980

refers to https://public-inbox.org/git/?q=gmane:127980.  There are
numerous examples of both kinds of references in the mailing list
archive.

Thanks,
Jonathan

Re: "gmane:" search undocumented on lore.kernel.org/git

[Junio C Hamano]

Konstantin Ryabitsev <konstantin@linuxfoundation.org> writes:

>> gmane:  doesn't seem configured on lore at all.  Compare:
>> 
>> 	https://lore.kernel.org/git/?q=gmane:1
>> 	https://public-inbox.org/git/?q=gmane:1
>
> I haven't configured them because I don't understand what benefit they 
> serve. If someone can explain their benefit, I can consider adding this 
> to the roadmap.

Just that many old messages you find in the lore and public-inbox
archive (and also a handful of commit log messages) use the syntax
like $gmane/290280 to refer to messages on the list with gmane plus
the article numbers.