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From: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
To: Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
Cc: Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget <gitgitgadget@gmail.com>,
	git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/4] t5552: fix flakiness by introducing proper locking for GIT_TRACE
Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2018 14:08:56 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <xmqqbmabb63b.fsf@gitster-ct.c.googlers.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <xmqqo9ebb6z3.fsf@gitster-ct.c.googlers.com> (Junio C. Hamano's message of "Thu, 09 Aug 2018 13:49:52 -0700")

Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com> writes:

> Jeff King <peff@peff.net> writes:
>
>> Are you sure that it's not well-defined? We open the path with O_APPEND,
>> which means every write() will be atomically positioned at the end of
>> file. So we would never lose or overwrite data.
>>
>> We do our own buffering in a strbuf, writing the result out in a single
>> write() call (modulo the OS returning a short write, but that should not
>> generally happen when writing short strings to a file). So we should get
>> individual trace lines as atomic units.
>>
>> The order of lines from the two processes is undefined, of course.
>
> Correct.  But I am more worried about the "mixed/overwriting"
> breakage, if there is one; it means we may need to be prepared for
> systems that lack O_APPEND that works correctly.  I initially just
> assumed that it was what Dscho was seeing, but after re-reading his
> message, I am not sure anymore.
>
> I think the "do not trace the other side" approach you suggest for
> these tests that only care about one side is more appropriate
> solution for this particular case.  We then do not have to worry
> about overwriting or output from both sides mixed randomly.

A concluding sentence I forgot to add, after saying "this is simpler
and better to fix test breakage", was

	But if we really are seeing O_APPEND breakage, a mandatory
	locking mechanism like this one might be necessary to work
	around it (I seriously hope we do not have to, though).

Sorry for an additional noise.

  reply	other threads:[~2018-08-09 21:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-08-09 17:35 [PATCH 0/4] t5552: fix flakiness by introducing proper locking for GIT_TRACE Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2018-08-09 17:35 ` [PATCH 1/4] Introduce a function to lock/unlock file descriptors when appending Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2018-08-09 19:01   ` Junio C Hamano
2018-08-10 18:32     ` Johannes Schindelin
2018-08-09 17:35 ` [PATCH 2/4] mingw: implement lock_or_unlock_fd_for_appending() Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2018-08-09 17:35 ` [PATCH 3/4] trace: lock the trace file to avoid racy trace_write() calls Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2018-08-09 17:35 ` [PATCH 4/4] trace: verify that locking works Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2018-08-09 19:47 ` [PATCH 0/4] t5552: fix flakiness by introducing proper locking for GIT_TRACE Jeff King
2018-08-09 20:49   ` Junio C Hamano
2018-08-09 21:08     ` Junio C Hamano [this message]
2018-08-09 21:32       ` Jeff King
2018-08-10 14:09     ` Jeff King
2018-08-10 15:58       ` Junio C Hamano
2018-08-10 15:58       ` Junio C Hamano
2018-08-10 16:43       ` Johannes Schindelin
2018-08-10 17:15         ` Jeff King
2018-08-10 18:40           ` Junio C Hamano
2018-08-10 19:34           ` Johannes Schindelin
2018-08-10 16:15 ` Johannes Sixt
2018-08-10 16:51   ` Jeff Hostetler
2018-08-10 16:57     ` Jeff Hostetler
2018-08-10 17:08     ` Johannes Sixt
2018-08-10 18:34   ` Junio C Hamano
2018-08-10 18:56     ` Jeff King
2018-08-13 19:02     ` [PATCH] mingw: enable atomic O_APPEND Johannes Sixt
2018-08-13 20:20       ` Junio C Hamano
2018-08-13 21:05         ` Johannes Sixt
2018-08-13 21:22           ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-08-13 21:55             ` Junio C Hamano
2018-08-13 22:37             ` Jeff King
2018-08-14 13:47               ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-08-14 14:53                 ` Jeff King
2018-08-14 18:29               ` Johannes Sixt
2018-08-14 19:17                 ` Jeff King
2018-08-14 13:01       ` Jeff Hostetler
2018-08-14 14:38         ` Junio C Hamano
2018-08-10 19:47 ` [PATCH v2 0/4] t5552: fix flakiness by introducing proper locking for GIT_TRACE Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2018-08-10 19:47   ` [PATCH v2 1/4] Introduce a function to lock/unlock file descriptors when appending Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2018-08-10 20:05     ` Junio C Hamano
2018-08-10 21:31       ` Johannes Schindelin
2018-08-10 19:47   ` [PATCH v2 2/4] mingw: implement lock_or_unlock_fd_for_appending() Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2018-08-10 19:47   ` [PATCH v2 3/4] trace: lock the trace file to avoid racy trace_write() calls Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2018-08-10 19:47   ` [PATCH v2 4/4] trace: verify that locking works Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget

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