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From: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
To: "brian m. carlson" <sandals@crustytoothpaste.net>
Cc: Jonatan Holmgren <jonatan@jontes.page>,  git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] Support UTF-8 characters in Git alias names
Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2026 15:14:31 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <xmqqecmt33xk.fsf@gitster.g> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aYpiSHSxYS2fUUS1@fruit.crustytoothpaste.net> (brian m. carlson's message of "Mon, 9 Feb 2026 22:40:08 +0000")

"brian m. carlson" <sandals@crustytoothpaste.net> writes:

> On 2026-02-09 at 14:55:51, Junio C Hamano wrote:
>> "brian m. carlson" <sandals@crustytoothpaste.net> writes:
>> 
>> > I don't think we have any Unicode normalization code at all in Git,
>> > though, so if you want a quality implementation, that may be a thing we
>> > need.
>> 
>> Isn't NKC/NKD a macOS-only issue in practice?  Anything on the
>> command line "git" potty and "git-blah" built-in commands receive
>> goes through precompose_argv_prefix() to be normalized on that
>> platform.
>
> Normalization is not a macOS-only issue.  Many accented characters can
> be written in multiple ways,...

Yup, but that wasn't what I brought up macOS for.  No sane person
would write the same string in multiple ways on purpose and
everybody would want to stick to one, so that byte-for-byte
comparison can decide paths they created in the filesystem can be
matched with a list of paths they added in .gitignore, for example.
And for that everybody uses normalization form C, no?

But the macOS makes it harder to stick to a single way when it
involves filesystem entities; the pathname you gave to a new file
with your creat/open(2) may be normalized in macOS specific way when
it comes back from readdir(2).  Ahd for that glitch, we massage the
strings we got from the command line and readdir(), which are in the
normalization form D, into normalization form C.

I think the suggestion here is to assume that the users are doing
the right thing and treat alias names (which eventually end up being
pathname components) as bytes, and everything should be happy, even
on macOS.

  reply	other threads:[~2026-02-09 23:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 88+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-02-08 15:30 [RFC] Support UTF-8 characters in Git alias names Jonatan Holmgren
2026-02-08 16:07 ` D. Ben Knoble
2026-02-08 23:21 ` brian m. carlson
2026-02-09 14:55   ` Junio C Hamano
2026-02-09 15:19     ` Jonatan Holmgren
2026-02-09 17:59       ` Junio C Hamano
2026-02-09 22:40     ` brian m. carlson
2026-02-09 23:14       ` Junio C Hamano [this message]
2026-02-10  0:45         ` Ben Knoble
2026-02-10  1:04           ` Junio C Hamano
2026-02-10  6:59             ` Jeff King
2026-02-09  7:36 ` Jeff King
2026-02-09 13:59   ` Theodore Tso
2026-02-09 22:01 ` [PATCH v1] alias: support UTF-8 characters via subsection syntax Jonatan Holmgren
2026-02-10  7:44   ` Jeff King
2026-02-10  8:30   ` Torsten Bögershausen
2026-02-10 16:35   ` Junio C Hamano
2026-02-10 18:31 ` [PATCH v2 0/2] support UTF-8 in alias names Jonatan Holmgren
2026-02-10 18:31   ` [PATCH v2 1/2] help: use list_aliases() for alias listing and lookup Jonatan Holmgren
2026-02-10 19:27     ` Junio C Hamano
2026-02-10 18:31   ` [PATCH v2 2/2] alias: support non-alphanumeric names via subsection syntax Jonatan Holmgren
2026-02-10 19:47     ` Junio C Hamano
2026-02-10 22:29       ` Jonatan Holmgren
2026-02-23  9:29     ` Kristoffer Haugsbakk
2026-02-23 16:07       ` Kristoffer Haugsbakk
2026-02-23 20:22         ` Junio C Hamano
2026-02-23 20:25           ` Kristoffer Haugsbakk
2026-02-24 10:27     ` Patrick Steinhardt
2026-02-10 22:27 ` [PATCH 0/3] support UTF-8 in alias names Jonatan Holmgren
2026-02-10 22:27   ` [PATCH 1/3] help: use list_aliases() for alias listing Jonatan Holmgren
2026-02-10 23:17     ` Junio C Hamano
2026-02-10 22:27   ` [PATCH 2/3] alias: prepare for subsection aliases Jonatan Holmgren
2026-02-10 22:27   ` [PATCH 3/3] alias: support non-alphanumeric names via subsection syntax Jonatan Holmgren
2026-02-11 21:18 ` [PATCH v4 0/3] support UTF-8 in alias names Jonatan Holmgren
2026-02-11 21:18   ` [PATCH v4 1/3] help: use list_aliases() for alias listing Jonatan Holmgren
2026-02-11 22:29     ` Junio C Hamano
2026-02-11 21:18   ` [PATCH v4 2/3] alias: prepare for subsection aliases Jonatan Holmgren
2026-02-11 21:53     ` Junio C Hamano
2026-02-11 21:18   ` [PATCH v4 3/3] alias: support non-alphanumeric names via subsection syntax Jonatan Holmgren
2026-02-11 22:28     ` Junio C Hamano
2026-02-12 11:16     ` Richard Kerry
2026-02-12 15:34       ` Jonatan Holmgren
2026-02-12 18:52     ` Jonatan Holmgren
2026-02-12 10:27   ` [PATCH v4 0/3] support UTF-8 in alias names Torsten Bögershausen
2026-02-12 15:35     ` Jonatan Holmgren
2026-02-16 16:15 ` [PATCH v5 0/4] support uTF-8 " Jonatan Holmgren
2026-02-16 16:15   ` [PATCH v5 1/4] help: use list_aliases() for alias listing Jonatan Holmgren
2026-02-16 16:15   ` [PATCH v5 2/4] alias: prepare for subsection aliases Jonatan Holmgren
2026-02-16 16:15   ` [PATCH v5 3/4] alias: support non-alphanumeric names via subsection syntax Jonatan Holmgren
2026-02-16 16:15   ` [PATCH v5 4/4] completion: fix zsh alias listing for subsection aliases Jonatan Holmgren
2026-02-16 18:32     ` D. Ben Knoble
2026-02-17 20:01     ` Junio C Hamano
2026-02-18 14:52 ` [PATCH v6 0/4] support UTF-8 in alias names Jonatan Holmgren
2026-02-18 14:52   ` [PATCH v6 1/4] help: use list_aliases() for alias listing Jonatan Holmgren
2026-02-18 14:52   ` [PATCH v6 2/4] alias: prepare for subsection aliases Jonatan Holmgren
2026-02-18 16:21     ` Kristoffer Haugsbakk
2026-02-18 14:52   ` [PATCH v6 3/4] alias: support non-alphanumeric names via subsection syntax Jonatan Holmgren
2026-02-18 14:52   ` [PATCH v6 4/4] completion: fix zsh alias listing for subsection aliases Jonatan Holmgren
2026-02-18 21:57 ` [PATCH v7 0/4] support UTF-8 in alias names Jonatan Holmgren
2026-02-18 21:57   ` [PATCH v7 1/4] help: use list_aliases() for alias listing Jonatan Holmgren
2026-02-24 22:19     ` Jacob Keller
2026-02-24 22:41       ` Junio C Hamano
2026-02-25 20:45         ` Junio C Hamano
2026-02-26 23:33           ` Jacob Keller
2026-02-24 22:21     ` Jacob Keller
2026-02-18 21:57   ` [PATCH v7 2/4] alias: prepare for subsection aliases Jonatan Holmgren
2026-02-18 21:57   ` [PATCH v7 3/4] alias: support non-alphanumeric names via subsection syntax Jonatan Holmgren
2026-02-24 10:55     ` Kristoffer Haugsbakk
2026-02-24 14:48       ` Jonatan Holmgren
2026-02-24 23:23         ` Kristoffer Haugsbakk
2026-02-18 21:57   ` [PATCH v7 4/4] completion: fix zsh alias listing for subsection aliases Jonatan Holmgren
2026-02-19 18:17   ` [PATCH v7 0/4] support UTF-8 in alias names Junio C Hamano
2026-02-19 18:54     ` Jonatan Holmgren
2026-02-24 17:12 ` [PATCH 0/2] Fix small issues in alias subsection handling Jonatan Holmgren
2026-02-24 17:12   ` [PATCH 1/2] doc: fix list continuation in alias subsection example Jonatan Holmgren
2026-02-24 19:11     ` Junio C Hamano
2026-02-24 19:14       ` Kristoffer Haugsbakk
2026-02-24 20:23         ` Junio C Hamano
2026-02-24 17:12   ` [PATCH 2/2] alias: treat empty subsection [alias ""] as plain [alias] Jonatan Holmgren
2026-02-26 17:00   ` [PATCH 0/2] Fix small issues in alias subsection handling Junio C Hamano
2026-02-26 20:53 ` [PATCH v2 0/3] " Jonatan Holmgren
2026-02-26 20:53   ` [PATCH v2 1/3] doc: fix list continuation in alias subsection example Jonatan Holmgren
2026-03-03  9:41     ` Kristoffer Haugsbakk
2026-03-03 15:13       ` [PATCH v2 1/3] doc: fix list continuation in alias subsection example! Jonatan Holmgren
2026-02-26 20:53   ` [PATCH v2 2/3] alias: treat empty subsection [alias ""] as plain [alias] Jonatan Holmgren
2026-02-26 20:53   ` [PATCH v2 3/3] git, help: fix memory leaks in alias listing Jonatan Holmgren
2026-02-26 21:08   ` [PATCH v2 0/3] Fix small issues in alias subsection handling Junio C Hamano
2026-03-03 15:12 ` [PATCH] doc: fix list continuation in alias.adoc Jonatan Holmgren

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