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Tue, 14 Oct 2025 19:20:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Junio C Hamano To: git@vger.kernel.org Subject: What's cooking in git.git (Oct 2025, #05; Tue, 14) X-master-at: b660e2dcb98ed4eafe2781b7ba31b70d2fcbad80 X-next-at: 61a8936c2151ce465d7d3286fe1d38bfb821753f Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2025 16:20:46 -0700 Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Here are the topics that have been cooking in my tree. Commits prefixed with '+' are in 'next' (being in 'next' is a sign that a topic is stable enough to be used and are candidate to be in a future release). Commits prefixed with '-' are only in 'seen', and aren't considered "accepted" at all and may be annotated with an URL to a message that raises issues but they are no means exhaustive. A topic without enough support may be discarded after a long period of no activity (of course they can be resubmit when new interests arise). Copies of the source code to Git live in many repositories, and the following is a list of the ones I push into or their mirrors. Some repositories have only a subset of branches. Since we have been seeing so many "I still use whatchanged" -- "Well, log replaced it 12 yearas ago" exchanges, let's have a maintenance release 2.51.1 that updates the message when the deprecated command is used, among other things. With maint, master, next, seen, todo: git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/git/git.git/ git://repo.or.cz/alt-git.git/ https://kernel.googlesource.com/pub/scm/git/git/ https://github.com/git/git/ https://gitlab.com/git-scm/git/ With all the integration branches and topics broken out: https://github.com/gitster/git/ Even though the preformatted documentation in HTML and man format are not sources, they are published in these repositories for convenience (replace "htmldocs" with "manpages" for the manual pages): git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/git/git-htmldocs.git/ https://github.com/gitster/git-htmldocs.git/ Release tarballs are available at: https://www.kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/ -------------------------------------------------- [Graduated to 'master'] * en/xdiff-cleanup (2025-09-26) 12 commits (merged to 'next' on 2025-10-08 at 5bc21d0f06) + xdiff: change type of xdfile_t.changed from char to bool + xdiff: add macros DISCARD(0), KEEP(1), INVESTIGATE(2) in xprepare.c + xdiff: rename rchg -> changed in xdfile_t + xdiff: delete chastore from xdfile_t + xdiff: delete fields ha, line, size in xdlclass_t in favor of an xrecord_t + xdiff: delete redundant array xdfile_t.ha + xdiff: delete struct diffdata_t + xdiff: delete local variables that alias fields in xrecord_t + xdiff: delete superfluous function xdl_get_rec() in xemit + xdiff: delete unnecessary fields from xrecord_t and xdfile_t + xdiff: delete local variables and initialize/free xdfile_t directly + xdiff: delete static forward declarations in xprepare A lot of code clean-up of xdiff. Split out of a larger topic. source: * ja/doc-markup-attached-paragraph-fix (2025-10-07) 2 commits (merged to 'next' on 2025-10-07 at 5b991a7b14) + doc: fix indentation of refStorage item in git-config(1) (merged to 'next' on 2025-09-30 at a91ca5db03) + doc: change the markup of paragraphs following a nested list item Documentation mark-up fix. source: <20250927195032.37223-1-jn.avila@free.fr> source: <20251007082223.GA3336685@coredump.intra.peff.net> * jc/optional-path (2025-09-28) 4 commits (merged to 'next' on 2025-10-08 at a1e8af9952) + parseopt: values of pathname type can be prefixed with :(optional) + config: values of pathname type can be prefixed with :(optional) + t7500: fix GIT_EDITOR shell snippet + t7500: make each piece more independent Configuration variables that take a pathname as a value (e.g. blame.ignorerevsfile) can be marked as optional by prefixing ":(optoinal)" before its value. source: * je/doc-push-upstream (2025-10-06) 5 commits (merged to 'next' on 2025-10-08 at 7bda6929b1) + doc: git-push: add explanation of `git push origin main` + doc: git-push: clarify "what to push" + doc: git-push: clarify "where to push" + doc: add an UPSTREAM BRANCHES section to pull/push/fetch + doc: git-push: clarify intro Documentation updates. source: * jn/doc-help-translaing-pretty-options (2025-10-05) 1 commit (merged to 'next' on 2025-10-08 at 8962b8d1f0) + doc: do not break sentences into "lego" pieces Documentation for "git log --pretty" options has been updated to make it easier to translate. source: * jn/doc-synopsis (2025-10-05) 3 commits (merged to 'next' on 2025-10-08 at fd4f96ff5e) + doc: convert git worktree to synopsis style + doc: convert git tag to synopsis style + doc: convert git-stash.adoc to synopis style Doc-mark-up modernization continues. source: * kh/doc-patch-id-markup-fix (2025-09-29) 1 commit (merged to 'next' on 2025-10-08 at a81dc9f7e6) + doc: patch-id: fix accidental literal blocks (this branch is used by kh/doc-patch-id-1.) Documentation mark-up fix. source: * kh/format-patch-range-diff-notes (2025-09-25) 3 commits (merged to 'next' on 2025-10-08 at e06aae4166) + format-patch: handle range-diff on notes correctly for single patches + revision: add rdiff_log_arg to rev_info + range-diff: rename other_arg to log_arg "git format-patch --range-diff=... --notes=..." did not drive the underlying range-diff with correct --notes parameter, ending up comparing with different set of notes from its main patch output you would get from "git format-patch --notes=..." for a singleton patch. source: * kn/reftable-consistency-checks (2025-10-07) 7 commits (merged to 'next' on 2025-10-07 at b9f4bd79f9) + refs/reftable: add fsck check for checking the table name + reftable: add code to facilitate consistency checks + fsck: order 'fsck_msg_type' alphabetically + Documentation/fsck-msgids: remove duplicate msg id + reftable: check for trailing newline in 'tables.list' + refs: move consistency check msg to generic layer + refs: remove unused headers The reftable backend learned to sanity check its on-disk data more carefully. source: <20251007-228-reftable-introduce-consistency-checks-v6-0-638cff42f0b0@gmail.com> * ps/ci-avoid-broken-sudo-on-ubuntu (2025-10-10) 1 commit (merged to 'next' on 2025-10-13 at fd60b6d14b) + ci: fix broken jobs on Ubuntu 25.10 caused by switch to sudo-rs(1) Our CI script requires "sudo" that can be told to preserve environment, but Ubuntu replaced with "sudo" with an implementation that lacks the feature. Work this around by reinstalling the original version. source: <20251010-b4-pks-ci-ubuntu-sudo-rs-v1-1-88cc846d251c@pks.im> * ps/commit-graph-per-object-source (2025-09-04) 5 commits (merged to 'next' on 2025-10-07 at 6c9690a649) + commit-graph: pass graphs that are to be merged as parameter + commit-graph: return commit graph from `repo_find_commit_pos_in_graph()` + commit-graph: return the prepared commit graph from `prepare_commit_graph()` + revision: drop explicit check for commit graph + blame: drop explicit check for commit graph Code clean-up around commit-graph. cf. cf. source: <20250904-b4-pks-commit-graph-via-source-v1-0-d932c2481e1a@pks.im> * pw/add-p-hunk-splitting-fix (2025-09-25) 2 commits (merged to 'next' on 2025-10-08 at 3fdb4a84ce) + add-patch: update hunk splitability after editing + add -p: mark split hunks as undecided Marking a hunk 'selected' in "git add -p" and then splitting made all the split pieces 'selected'; this has been changed to make them all 'undecided', which gives better end-user experience. source: * sj/string-list (2025-10-05) 4 commits (merged to 'next' on 2025-10-08 at cf0fc3ea18) + refs: enable sign compare warnings check + string-list: change "string_list_find_insert_index" return type to "size_t" + string-list: replace negative index encoding with "exact_match" parameter + string-list: use bool instead of int for "exact_match" The "string-list" API function to find where a given string would be inserted got updated so that it can use unrealistically huge array index that would only fit in size_t but not int or ssize_t to achieve unstated goal. source: -------------------------------------------------- [New Topics] * tu/credential-makefile-updates (2025-10-10) 1 commit - contrib/credential: Amend and harmonize Makefiles Build procedure for a few credential helpers (in contrib/) have been updated. Expecting a reroll. source: <48d92664-41af-bb59-1844-7bb57f21924f@mailbox.tu-dresden.de> * tb/cat-file-objectmode-update (2025-10-13) 1 commit (merged to 'next' on 2025-10-13 at 4fd0f1b5b5) + builtin/cat-file.c: simplify calling `report_object_status()` Code clean-up. Will merge to 'master'. source: <9236fa6e654a59337266430a2a8807da21210cd4.1760392502.git.me@ttaylorr.com> * ps/symlink-symref-deprecation (2025-10-14) 1 commit - refs/files: deprecate writing symrefs as symbolic links "Symlink symref" has been added to the list of things that will disappear at Git 3.0 boundary. Comments? source: <20251014-pks-ref-files-deprecate-symbolic-links-v1-1-4bcd6a4ef6f5@pks.im> -------------------------------------------------- [Cooking] * dk/stash-apply-index (2025-10-06) 1 commit (merged to 'next' on 2025-10-13 at 2187046f6c) + doc: explain the impact of stash.index on --autostash options Doc update. Will merge to 'master'. source: * js/mingw-includes-cleanup (2025-10-09) 2 commits (merged to 'next' on 2025-10-13 at b7144c1feb) + mingw: order `#include`s alphabetically + mingw: avoid relative `#include`s Code clean-up. Will merge to 'master'. source: * js/unreachable-workaround-for-no-symlink-head (2025-10-09) 1 commit (merged to 'next' on 2025-10-13 at 0e970d5e4e) + refs: forbid clang to complain about unreachable code Code clean-up. Will merge to 'master'. source: * kh/doc-patch-id-1 (2025-10-13) 2 commits - doc: patch-id: convert to the modern synopsis style - Merge branch 'kh/doc-patch-id-markup-fix' into kh/doc-patch-id-1 Will merge to 'next'? source: * tz/test-prepare-gnupghome (2024-07-03) 2 commits - t/lib-gpg: call prepare_gnupghome() in GPG2 prereq - t/lib-gpg: add prepare_gnupghome() to create GNUPGHOME dir Tests did not set up GNUPGHOME correctly, which is fixed but some bugs are exposed in t1016, which needs to be addressed before this topic can move forward. On hold. cf. source: <20240703153738.916469-1-tmz@pobox.com> * jc/t1016-setup-fix (2025-10-10) 1 commit - t1016: make sure to use specified GPG GPG signing test set-up has been broken for a year, which has been corrected. Comments? source: * kh/doc-continued-paragraph-fix (2025-10-08) 1 commit (merged to 'next' on 2025-10-13 at e66316f041) + doc: fix accidental literal blocks Doc mark-up fixes. Will merge to 'master'. source: <7a955ecb1b5.1759923933.git.code@khaugsbakk.name> * cc/fast-import-strip-signed-tags (2025-10-13) 5 commits - fast-import: add '--signed-tags=' option - fast-export: handle all kinds of tag signatures - t9350: properly count annotated tags - lib-gpg: allow tests with GPGSM or GPGSSH prereq first - doc: git-tag: stop focusing on GPG signed tags "git fast-import" is taught to handle signed tags, just like it recently learned to handle signed commits, in different ways. Will merge to 'next'? source: <20251013084857.1646783-1-christian.couder@gmail.com> * ps/ci-rust (2025-10-07) 8 commits - rust: support for Windows - ci: verify minimum supported Rust version - ci: check for common Rust mistakes via Clippy - rust/varint: add safety comments - ci: check formatting of our Rust code - ci: deduplicate calls to `apt-get update` - Merge branch 'ps/gitlab-ci-windows-improvements' into ps/ci-rust - Merge branch 'ps/rust-balloon' into ps/ci-rust CI improvements to handle the recent Rust integration better. Expecting an update. cf. source: <20251008-b4-pks-ci-rust-v2-0-d556ee83c381@pks.im> * ps/ref-peeled-tags (2025-10-08) 14 commits - ref-filter: parse objects on demand - ref-filter: detect broken tags when dereferencing them - refs: don't store peeled object IDs for invalid tags - object: add flag to `peel_object()` to verify object type - refs: drop infrastructure to peel via iterators - refs: drop `current_ref_iter` hack - builtin/show-ref: convert to use `reference_get_peeled_oid()` - ref-filter: propagate peeled object ID - upload-pack: convert to use `reference_get_peeled_oid()` - refs: expose peeled object ID via the iterator - refs: refactor reference status flags - refs: fully reset `struct ref_iterator::ref` on iteration - refs: introduce `.ref` field for the base iterator - refs: introduce wrapper struct for `each_ref_fn` Some ref backend storage can hold not just the object name of an annotated tag, but the object name of the object the tag points at. The code to handle this information has been streamlined. source: <20251008-b4-pks-ref-filter-skip-parsing-objects-v2-0-76e30d5c9542@pks.im> * ps/remove-packfile-store-get-packs (2025-10-09) 7 commits - packfile: rename `packfile_store_get_all_packs()` - packfile: introduce macro to iterate through packs - packfile: drop `packfile_store_get_packs()` - builtin/grep: simplify how we preload packs - builtin/gc: convert to use `packfile_store_get_all_packs()` - object-name: convert to use `packfile_store_get_all_packs()` - Merge branch 'tb/incremental-midx-part-3.1' into ps/remove-packfile-store-get-packs (this branch uses tb/incremental-midx-part-3.1.) Two slightly different ways to get at "all the packfiles" in API has been cleaned up. Comments? source: <20251009-pks-packfiles-convert-get-all-v2-0-0d73b87ce711@pks.im> * tb/doc-submitting-patches (2025-10-07) 2 commits (merged to 'next' on 2025-10-10 at b63283990d) + SubmittingPatches: guidance for multi-series efforts + SubmittingPatches: extend release-notes experiment to topic names A few more things that patch authors can do to help maintainer to keep track of their topics better. Will merge to 'master'. source: * je/doc-data-model (2025-10-08) 1 commit - doc: add a explanation of Git's data model Add a new manual that describes the data model. source: * rs/add-patch-options-fix (2025-10-06) 6 commits (merged to 'next' on 2025-10-10 at ef52e0377e) + add-patch: reset "permitted" at loop start + add-patch: let options a and d roll over like y and n + add-patch: let options k and K roll over like j and J + add-patch: let options y, n, j, and e roll over to next undecided + add-patch: document that option J rolls over + add-patch: improve help for options j, J, k, and K The code in "git add -p" and friends to iterate over hunks was riddled with bugs, which has been corrected. Will merge to 'master'. source: * tb/incremental-midx-part-3.1 (2025-09-29) 51 commits - SQUASH??? play well with other topics by preemptively including "repository.h" - builtin/repack.c: clean up unused `#include`s - repack: move `write_cruft_pack()` out of the builtin - repack: move `write_filtered_pack()` out of the builtin - repack: move `pack_kept_objects` to `struct pack_objects_args` - repack: move `finish_pack_objects_cmd()` out of the builtin - builtin/repack.c: pass `write_pack_opts` to `finish_pack_objects_cmd()` - repack: extract `write_pack_opts_is_local()` - repack: move `find_pack_prefix()` out of the builtin - builtin/repack.c: use `write_pack_opts` within `write_cruft_pack()` - builtin/repack.c: introduce `struct write_pack_opts` - repack: 'write_midx_included_packs' API from the builtin - builtin/repack.c: inline packs within `write_midx_included_packs()` - builtin/repack.c: pass `repack_write_midx_opts` to `midx_included_packs` - builtin/repack.c: inline `remove_redundant_bitmaps()` - builtin/repack.c: reorder `remove_redundant_bitmaps()` - repack: keep track of MIDX pack names using existing_packs - builtin/repack.c: use a string_list for 'midx_pack_names' - builtin/repack.c: extract opts struct for 'write_midx_included_packs()' - builtin/repack.c: remove ref snapshotting from builtin - repack: remove pack_geometry API from the builtin - builtin/repack.c: pass 'packdir' to `pack_geometry_remove_redundant()` - builtin/repack.c: pass 'pack_kept_objects' to `pack_geometry_init()` - builtin/repack.c: rename various pack_geometry functions - builtin/repack.c: remove "repack_promisor_objects()" from the builtin - builtin/repack.c: pass "packtmp" to `repack_promisor_objects()` - repack: remove 'generated_pack' API from the builtin - builtin/repack.c: provide pack locations to `generated_pack_install()` - builtin/repack.c: pass "packtmp" to `generated_pack_populate()` - builtin/repack.c: factor our "generated_pack_install" - builtin/repack.c: rename "struct generated_pack_data" - repack: remove 'existing_packs' API from the builtin - builtin/repack.c: avoid unnecessary numeric casts in existing_packs - builtin/repack.c: pass "packdir" when removing packs - repack: remove 'remove_redundant_pack' from the builtin - builtin/repack.c: rename many 'struct existing_packs' functions - repack: remove 'prepare_pack_objects' from the builtin - repack: move 'delta_base_offset' to 'struct pack_objects_args' - builtin/repack.c: pass both pack_objects args to repack_config - repack: introduce new compilation unit - builtin/repack.c: avoid using `hash_to_hex()` in pack geometry - builtin/repack.c: avoid "the_hash_algo" in `finish_pack_objects_cmd()` - builtin/repack: avoid "the_hash_algo" in `repack_promisor_objects()` - builtin/repack.c: avoid "the_hash_algo" in `write_oid()` - builtin/repack.c: avoid "the_hash_algo" when deleting packs - builtin/repack.c: avoid "the_repository" when repacking promisor objects - builtin/repack.c: avoid "the_repository" when removing packs - builtin/repack.c: avoid "the_repository" when taking a ref snapshot - builtin/repack.c: avoid "the_repository" in existing packs API - builtin/repack.c: avoid "the_repository" in `cmd_repack()` - Merge branch 'ps/packfile-store' into tb/incremental-midx-part-3.1 (this branch is used by ps/remove-packfile-store-get-packs.) Comments? source: * cc/doc-submitting-patches-with-ai (2025-10-01) 1 commit - SubmittingPatches: add section about AI AI guidelines. Perhaps we should adopt what QEMU uses for simplicity? cf. source: <20251001140310.527097-1-christian.couder@gmail.com> * ps/history (2025-10-01) 13 commits - builtin/history: implement "split" subcommand - cache-tree: allow writing in-memory index as tree - add-patch: add support for in-memory index patching - add-patch: remove dependency on "add-interactive" subsystem - add-patch: split out `struct interactive_options` - add-patch: split out header from "add-interactive.h" - builtin/history: implement "reword" subcommand - builtin: add new "history" command - replay: parse commits before dereferencing them - replay: stop using `the_repository` - replay: extract logic to pick commits - wt-status: provide function to expose status for trees - Merge branch 'sa/replay-atomic-ref-updates' into ps/history (this branch uses sa/replay-atomic-ref-updates.) "git history" history rewriting UI. Stomps on each others toes with sa/replay-atomic-ref-updates topic. source: <20251001-b4-pks-history-builtin-v4-0-8e61ddb86317@pks.im> * en/make-libgit-a (2025-10-02) 2 commits (merged to 'next' on 2025-10-10 at 913fc0337a) + make: delete REFTABLE_LIB, add reftable to LIB_OBJS + make: delete XDIFF_LIB, add xdiff to LIB_OBJS Instead of three library archives (one for git, one for reftable, and one for xdiff), roll everything into a single libgit.a archive. This would help later effort to FFI into Rust. Will merge to 'master'. source: * ms/doc-worktree-side-by-side (2025-10-10) 2 commits - doc: git-worktree: Add side by side branch checkout example - doc: git-worktree: Link to examples Document "git worktree add" and use of out-of-tree worktrees with examples. Under discussion. cf. source: * rj/doc-technical-fixes (2025-10-02) 3 commits - doc: commit-graph.adoc: fix up some formatting - doc: sparse-checkout.adoc: fix asciidoc warnings - doc: remembering-renames.adoc: fix asciidoc warnings Documentation mark-up fixes. Expecting v3. cf. <20251002221233.541844-1-ramsay@ramsayjones.plus.com> source: <20251002221233.541844-1-ramsay@ramsayjones.plus.com> * sa/replay-atomic-ref-updates (2025-10-14) 4 commits - SQAUASH??? t0450 band-aid - replay: add replay.defaultAction config option - replay: make atomic ref updates the default behavior - replay: use die_for_incompatible_opt2() for option validation (this branch is used by ps/history.) "git replay" (experimental) learned to perform ref updates itself in a transaction by default, instead of emitting where each refs should point at and leaving the actual update to another command. Expecting a reroll. source: <20251013183311.33329-1-siddharthasthana31@gmail.com> * je/doc-pull (2025-10-08) 4 commits - doc: git-pull: clarify how to exit a conflicted merge - doc: git-pull: delete the example - doc: git-pull: clarify options for integrating remote branch - doc: git-pull: move and params Documentation updates. Will merge to 'next'? source: * jk/diff-no-index-with-pathspec-fix (2025-09-24) 1 commit (merged to 'next' on 2025-10-10 at 75721dbc16) + diff --no-index: fix logic for paths ending in '/' An earlier addition to "git diff --no-index A B" to limit the output with pathspec after the two directories misbehaved when these directories were given with a trailing slash, which has been corrected. Will merge to 'master'. source: <20250924-jk-fix-no-index-path-with-slash-v1-1-6b2028c0de92@intel.com> * jt/repo-stats (2025-09-27) 6 commits - builtin/repo: add progress meter for stats - builtin/repo: add keyvalue and nul format for stats - builtin/repo: add object counts in stats output - builtin/repo: introduce stats subcommand - ref-filter: allow NULL filter pattern - builtin/repo: rename repo_info() to cmd_repo_info() "git repo stats", a new command. Comments? source: <20250927145049.723341-1-jltobler@gmail.com> * bc/sha1-256-interop-01 (2025-10-09) 9 commits (merged to 'next' on 2025-10-14 at c571bab975) + t1010: use BROKEN_OBJECTS prerequisite + t: allow specifying compatibility hash + fsck: consider gpgsig headers expected in tags + rev-parse: allow printing compatibility hash + docs: add documentation for loose objects + docs: improve ambiguous areas of pack format documentation + docs: reflect actual double signature for tags + docs: update offset order for pack index v3 + docs: update pack index v3 format The beginning of SHA1-SHA256 interoperability work. Will merge to 'master'. source: <20251009215626.3089287-1-sandals@crustytoothpaste.net> * ar/submodule-gitdir-tweak (2025-10-06) 5 commits - submodule: error out if gitdir name is too long - submodule: encode gitdir paths to avoid conflicts - strbuf: bring back is_rfc3986_unreserved - submodule: add gitdir path config override - submodule--helper: use submodule_name_to_gitdir in add_submodule Avoid local submodule repository directory paths overlapping with each other by encoding submodule names before using them as path components. Expecting v4. cf. <20251006112518.3764240-1-adrian.ratiu@collabora.com> source: <20251006112518.3764240-1-adrian.ratiu@collabora.com> * ds/sparse-checkout-clean (2025-09-12) 7 commits (merged to 'next' on 2025-09-25 at 00b296f153) + t: expand tests around sparse merges and clean + sparse-index: point users to new 'clean' action + sparse-checkout: add --verbose option to 'clean' + dir: add generic "walk all files" helper + sparse-checkout: match some 'clean' behavior + sparse-checkout: add basics of 'clean' command + sparse-checkout: remove use of the_repository "git sparse-checkout" subcommand learned a new "clean" action to prune otherwise unused working-tree files that are outside the areas of interest. Expecting a (hopefully small) incremental update. cf. <3537e220-44b6-4e37-a568-cef34a2fddfd@gmail.com> cf. source: -------------------------------------------------- [Discarded] These have been kept outside 'seen' for some time, and were removed for now, until they get resubmit in a shape that plays well with other topics in 'seen'. * lc/rebase-trailer (2025-08-03) 2 commits . rebase: support --trailer . trailer: append trailers in-process and drop the fork to `interpret-trailers` Has been expecting a reroll for way too long. cf. <198826af571.62b85cb31711042.2415806544948206668@linux.beauty> cf. cf. <1995bf77c93.3eeb42b4972717.3783775021840050008@linux.beauty> source: <20250803150059.402017-1-me@linux.beauty> * ac/deglobal-sparse-variables (2025-07-18) 3 commits . environment: remove the global variable 'sparse_expect_files_outside_of_patterns' . environment: move access to "core.sparsecheckoutcone" into repo_settings . environment: move access to "core.sparsecheckout" into repo_settings Two global variables related to sparse checkout have been moved to the repository settings structure. Has been expecting a reroll for way too long. cf. Ejected out of 'seen' for now. source: