From: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
To: Patrick Steinhardt <ps@pks.im>
Cc: Taylor Blau <me@ttaylorr.com>,
Luca Milanesio <luca.milanesio@gmail.com>,
git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: When should we release Git 3.0?
Date: Thu, 02 Oct 2025 08:32:38 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <xmqqfrc1xqsp.fsf@gitster.g> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aN5-n_ArhQqaQZgt@pks.im> (Patrick Steinhardt's message of "Thu, 2 Oct 2025 15:31:11 +0200")
Patrick Steinhardt <ps@pks.im> writes:
> Once we have roadmaps, we should set a strict deadline that takes them
> into account. Any hosting provider or implementation of Git that doesn't
> provide a roadmap will not be taken into account in our planning.
Works fine as long as we assume everybody that matters will
eventually want to move away from SHA-1.
- If a stakeholder gives a roadmap that has no SHA-256 in their
future, in other words, if they are content to serve only the
SHA-1 projects, what's the impact to them? We are not dropping
the support for SHA-1 in the sense that if you clone from an
existing SHA-1 repository you'll get an SHA-1 repository and you
can push and fetch between them just fine, so presumably that is
fine as well.
- If a stakeholder gives a roadmap with SHA-256 so far into the
future that we cannot wait, what's the impact to them? Their
customers that want SHA-256 earlier than they can supply could
move to other hosting or implementation, but not really. Both
hosting providers and Git implementations have components that
are move than Git that are hard to migrate, like issue trackers,
CI services, workflow tools, etc., that make their customers
captive audience [*].
- If a stakeholder has a roadmap with SHA-256 in line with our
timeframe, do we still need to assess the impact to them, or as
long as we and they work hard to stick to the plan, we all will
be happy?
> We should of course actively reach out to the projects that we're aware
> of so that they have a chance to provide such a roadmap in the first
> place.
[Footnote]
* Issue trackers and review logs that are federated, possibly using
Git database for storage and transfer, may allow projects and
users to freely roam across hosting sites, but there is no strong
incentive for the hosting sites to fund such an effort X-<.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-10-02 15:32 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-09-30 23:07 When should we release Git 3.0? brian m. carlson
2025-10-01 7:13 ` Luca Milanesio
2025-10-01 16:04 ` Taylor Blau
2025-10-01 19:31 ` rsbecker
2025-10-08 21:44 ` Taylor Blau
2025-10-08 21:55 ` rsbecker
2025-10-02 13:31 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-10-02 15:32 ` Junio C Hamano [this message]
2025-10-02 16:10 ` Michal Suchánek
2025-10-07 10:27 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-10-07 10:36 ` Michal Suchánek
2025-10-07 13:21 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-10-07 13:40 ` Michal Suchánek
2025-10-07 17:11 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-10-07 17:28 ` Michal Suchánek
2025-10-08 20:44 ` SZEDER Gábor
2025-10-09 5:56 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-10-02 16:54 ` Ben Knoble
2025-10-07 10:27 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-10-07 17:36 ` rsbecker
2025-10-08 22:05 ` Taylor Blau
2025-10-09 5:59 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-10-16 21:32 ` brian m. carlson
2025-10-08 21:59 ` Taylor Blau
2025-10-16 21:42 ` brian m. carlson
2025-10-02 22:33 ` brian m. carlson
2025-10-01 16:01 ` Taylor Blau
2025-10-01 16:20 ` Michal Suchánek
2025-10-01 22:16 ` brian m. carlson
2025-10-02 12:13 ` Michal Suchánek
2025-10-02 13:09 ` Michal Suchánek
2025-10-01 20:36 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-10-01 22:42 ` brian m. carlson
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2025-10-08 19:06 James Frost
2025-10-09 5:30 ` Patrick Steinhardt
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