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But I'm in the camp of adding > them as-needed and not proactively so that we don't end up with hundreds > of options. Surely, your system may have openssl installed, but for non-technical reasons you may not want your Git to link with it, which is impossible to auto-detect, of course. To be quite honest, while I am very much sympathetic to the above, in practice, I am afraid that these knobs we _already_ have in our Makefile are exceptions that was added due to whatever reason "as needed". Dropping any of them would mean that you are declaring this: by default, all the past exceptions we made are nullified and you have to resubmit for requalification if you want to keep your favourite one. That's not a very nice way to run the project, though. Thanks.