From: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
To: Patrick Steinhardt <ps@pks.im>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org,
Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de>,
Phillip Wood <phillip.wood123@gmail.com>,
Justin Tobler <jltobler@gmail.com>,
Dragan Simic <dsimic@manjaro.org>,
Karthik Nayak <karthik.188@gmail.com>,
Todd Zullinger <tmz@pobox.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 2/4] BreakingChanges: document upcoming change from "sha1" to "sha256"
Date: Mon, 03 Jun 2024 09:36:59 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <xmqqfrtu56fo.fsf@gitster.g> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <b36ffcbaa67dcdada630e2d582e75da623512743.1717402497.git.ps@pks.im> (Patrick Steinhardt's message of "Mon, 3 Jun 2024 11:28:27 +0200")
Patrick Steinhardt <ps@pks.im> writes:
> Starting with 8e42eb0e9a (doc: sha256 is no longer experimental,
> 2023-07-31), the "sha256" object format is no longer considered to be
> experimental. Furthermore, the SHA-1 hash function is actively
> recommended against by for example NIST and FIPS 140-2, and attacks
> against it are becoming more practical both due to new weaknesses
> (SHAppening, SHAttered, Shambles) and due to the ever-increasing
> computing power. It is only a matter of time before it can be considered
> to be broken completely.
>
> Let's plan for this event by being active instead of waiting for it to
> happend and announce that the default object format is going to change
> from "sha1" to "sha256" with Git 3.0.
>
> All major Git implementations (libgit2, JGit, go-git) support the
> "sha256" object format and are thus prepared for this change. The most
> important missing piece in the puzzle is support in forges. But while
> GitLab recently gained experimental support for the "sha256" object
> format though, to the best of my knowledge GitHub doesn't support it
> yet. Ideally, announcing this upcoming change will encourage forges to
> start building that support.
>
> Signed-off-by: Patrick Steinhardt <ps@pks.im>
> ---
> Documentation/BreakingChanges.txt | 24 ++++++++++++++++++++++++
> 1 file changed, 24 insertions(+)
>
> diff --git a/Documentation/BreakingChanges.txt b/Documentation/BreakingChanges.txt
> index ddce7cc301..904857a636 100644
> --- a/Documentation/BreakingChanges.txt
> +++ b/Documentation/BreakingChanges.txt
> @@ -61,6 +61,30 @@ be changed to or replaced in case the alternative was implemented already.
>
> === Changes
>
> +* The default hash function for new repositories will be changed from "sha1"
> + to "sha256". SHA-1 has been deprecated by NIST in 2011 and is nowadays
> + recommended against in FIPS 140-2 and similar certifications. Furthermore,
> + there are practical attacks on SHA-1 that weaken its cryptographic properties:
> ++
> + ** The SHAppening (2015). The first demonstration of a practical attack
> + against SHA-1 with 2^57 operations.
> + ** SHAttered (2017). Generation of two valid PDF files with 2^63 operations.
> + ** Birthday-Near-Collision (2019). This attack allows for chosen prefix
> + attacks with 2^68 operations.
> + ** Shambles (2020). This attack allows for chosen prefix attacks with 2^63
> + operations.
> ++
> +While we have protections in place against known attacks, it is expected
> +that more attacks against SHA-1 will be found by future research. Paired
> +with the ever-growing capability of hardware, it is only a matter of time
> +before SHA-1 will be considered broken completely. We want to be prepared
> +and will thus change the default hash algorithm to "sha256" for newly
> +initialized repositories.
> ++
> +Cf. <2f5de416-04ba-c23d-1e0b-83bb655829a7@zombino.com>,
> +<20170223155046.e7nxivfwqqoprsqj@LykOS.localdomain>,
> +<CA+EOSBncr=4a4d8n9xS4FNehyebpmX8JiUwCsXD47EQDE+DiUQ@mail.gmail.com>.
A few things we should probably list are:
- Even if you can locally use SHA-256 in your project and
push/fetch the history around, public forges may not be ready.
- The strategy to migrate existing SHA-1 project to SHA-256 without
going through a flag day change has been designed but not
implemented or deployed.
- This is only about the change of the default; we currently have
no plan to drop support for SHA-1 repositories.
IMHO, we would want each and every item in this document to mention
the risk factors that may prevent us from going forward even if we
wanted to, and the first item above is an example.
Thanks.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-06-03 16:37 UTC|newest]
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2024-05-07 8:27 [RFC PATCH] docs: document upcoming breaking changes Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-07 10:38 ` Johannes Schindelin
2024-05-08 13:55 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-07 22:02 ` Junio C Hamano
2024-05-08 13:54 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-08 14:58 ` Junio C Hamano
2024-05-08 15:59 ` Dragan Simic
2024-05-10 11:36 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-10 12:43 ` Dragan Simic
2024-05-08 13:15 ` Phillip Wood
2024-05-08 13:55 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-10 2:15 ` Justin Tobler
2024-05-10 4:47 ` Junio C Hamano
2024-05-14 6:50 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-14 6:16 ` [RFC PATCH v2] " Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-14 10:48 ` Karthik Nayak
2024-05-14 11:22 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-14 15:45 ` Junio C Hamano
2024-05-14 12:32 ` Dragan Simic
2024-05-24 12:54 ` [PATCH v3] " Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-24 17:27 ` Junio C Hamano
2024-05-30 12:04 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-30 3:23 ` Commands using -h as an option don't work consistently Junio C Hamano
2024-06-03 18:33 ` Junio C Hamano
2024-06-03 20:05 ` [PATCH 0/3] Branches are branches and not heads Junio C Hamano
2024-06-03 20:05 ` [PATCH 1/3] refs: call branches branches Junio C Hamano
2024-06-03 21:32 ` Eric Sunshine
2024-06-03 20:05 ` [PATCH 2/3] ls-remote: introduce --branches and deprecate --heads Junio C Hamano
2024-06-03 21:30 ` Rubén Justo
2024-06-03 21:42 ` Eric Sunshine
2024-06-03 21:48 ` Junio C Hamano
2024-06-03 20:05 ` [PATCH 3/3] show-ref: " Junio C Hamano
2024-06-03 21:32 ` [PATCH 0/3] Branches are branches and not heads Rubén Justo
2024-06-04 7:56 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-06-04 22:01 ` [PATCH v2 " Junio C Hamano
2024-06-04 22:01 ` [PATCH v2 1/3] refs: call branches branches Junio C Hamano
2024-06-04 22:01 ` [PATCH v2 2/3] ls-remote: introduce --branches and deprecate --heads Junio C Hamano
2024-06-06 9:39 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-06-06 15:18 ` Junio C Hamano
2024-06-04 22:01 ` [PATCH v2 3/3] show-ref: " Junio C Hamano
2024-06-14 19:32 ` Elijah Newren
2024-06-14 21:21 ` Junio C Hamano
2024-06-14 21:34 ` Elijah Newren
2024-06-14 21:42 ` Elijah Newren
2024-06-14 22:46 ` Junio C Hamano
2024-06-06 9:39 ` [PATCH v2 0/3] Branches are branches and not heads Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-31 7:56 ` [PATCH v4 0/4] docs: document upcoming breaking changes Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-31 7:56 ` [PATCH v4 1/4] docs: introduce document to announce " Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-31 16:51 ` Junio C Hamano
2024-06-03 9:32 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-06-03 16:17 ` Junio C Hamano
2024-06-04 7:42 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-31 7:56 ` [PATCH v4 2/4] BreakingChanges: document upcoming change from "sha1" to "sha256" Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-31 17:00 ` Junio C Hamano
2024-05-31 7:56 ` [PATCH v4 3/4] BreakingChanges: document removal of grafting Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-31 7:56 ` [PATCH v4 4/4] BreakingChanges: document that we do not plan to deprecate git-checkout Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-31 17:05 ` Junio C Hamano
2024-05-31 23:35 ` Todd Zullinger
2024-05-31 8:43 ` [PATCH v4 0/4] docs: document upcoming breaking changes Junio C Hamano
2024-05-31 11:15 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-06-03 9:28 ` [PATCH v5 " Patrick Steinhardt
2024-06-03 9:28 ` [PATCH v5 1/4] docs: introduce document to announce " Patrick Steinhardt
2024-06-03 14:08 ` Phillip Wood
2024-06-03 16:24 ` Junio C Hamano
2024-06-04 6:59 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-06-03 9:28 ` [PATCH v5 2/4] BreakingChanges: document upcoming change from "sha1" to "sha256" Patrick Steinhardt
2024-06-03 16:36 ` Junio C Hamano [this message]
2024-06-04 7:06 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-06-04 17:16 ` Junio C Hamano
2024-06-03 9:28 ` [PATCH v5 3/4] BreakingChanges: document removal of grafting Patrick Steinhardt
2024-06-03 16:42 ` Junio C Hamano
2024-06-03 9:28 ` [PATCH v5 4/4] BreakingChanges: document that we do not plan to deprecate git-checkout Patrick Steinhardt
2024-06-03 16:52 ` Junio C Hamano
2024-06-04 7:11 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-06-04 12:32 ` [PATCH v6 0/4] docs: document upcoming breaking changes Patrick Steinhardt
2024-06-04 12:32 ` [PATCH v6 1/4] docs: introduce document to announce " Patrick Steinhardt
2024-06-04 17:59 ` Junio C Hamano
2024-06-05 5:31 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-06-05 16:03 ` Junio C Hamano
2024-06-05 17:52 ` Junio C Hamano
2024-06-06 4:35 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-06-04 12:32 ` [PATCH v6 2/4] BreakingChanges: document upcoming change from "sha1" to "sha256" Patrick Steinhardt
2024-06-04 12:32 ` [PATCH v6 3/4] BreakingChanges: document removal of grafting Patrick Steinhardt
2024-06-04 18:00 ` Junio C Hamano
2024-06-04 12:32 ` [PATCH v6 4/4] BreakingChanges: document that we do not plan to deprecate git-checkout Patrick Steinhardt
2024-06-04 14:23 ` [PATCH v6 0/4] docs: document upcoming breaking changes Phillip Wood
2024-06-04 18:01 ` Junio C Hamano
2024-06-05 5:32 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-06-14 6:42 ` [PATCH v7 " Patrick Steinhardt
2024-06-14 6:42 ` [PATCH v7 1/4] docs: introduce document to announce " Patrick Steinhardt
2024-06-14 16:08 ` Junio C Hamano
2024-06-14 6:42 ` [PATCH v7 2/4] BreakingChanges: document upcoming change from "sha1" to "sha256" Patrick Steinhardt
2024-06-14 6:42 ` [PATCH v7 3/4] BreakingChanges: document removal of grafting Patrick Steinhardt
2024-06-14 6:42 ` [PATCH v7 4/4] BreakingChanges: document that we do not plan to deprecate git-checkout Patrick Steinhardt
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2024-05-29 22:03 Commands using -h as an option don't work consistently Kevin Day
2024-05-29 22:22 ` Junio C Hamano
2024-05-29 22:40 ` Kevin Day
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