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From: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
To: Eric Sunshine <sunshine@sunshineco.com>
Cc: Ezekiel Newren via GitGitGadget <gitgitgadget@gmail.com>,
	git@vger.kernel.org,  Ezekiel Newren <ezekielnewren@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 07/18] build: introduce rust
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2025 07:54:16 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <xmqqh5x1f7tz.fsf@gitster.g> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPig+cS_=YTBaCjn8-Th3yn3_k+a8_pMOmdv_Dq4S0tfp8BRCg@mail.gmail.com> (Eric Sunshine's message of "Wed, 17 Sep 2025 04:26:16 -0400")

Eric Sunshine <sunshine@sunshineco.com> writes:

>> diff --git a/.gitignore b/.gitignore
>> @@ -254,3 +254,6 @@ Release/
>>  /contrib/buildsystems/out
>>  /contrib/libgit-rs/target
>>  /contrib/libgit-sys/target
>> +.idea/
>> +/rust/target/
>> +/rust/Cargo.lock
>
> Is ".idea" directory detritus from your chosen editor? If so, it
> probably ought not be added to this list since we don't otherwise
> ignore detritus from foreign tools such as that.

I knew that the above was our official stance but somehow thought
that we loosened at some point to add common ones like *~ and
*.sw[op] to make life simpler for majority of developers.  But I was
wrong.  We do not even have *~, which means we haven't officially
loosened.

But there are oddballs that violate this policy like ".cache"
introduced by a5c01603 (gitignore: ignore clangd .cache directory,
2023-08-04).  Three are many other that are *not* our droppings,
between /.vscode/ to /contrib/buildsystems/out in .gitignore file.

    /.vscode/
    /tags
    /TAGS
    /cscope*
    /compile_commands.json
    /.cache/
    *.hcc
    *.obj
    *.lib
    *.sln
    *.sp
    *.suo
    *.ncb
    *.vcproj
    *.user
    *.idb
    *.pdb
    *.ilk
    *.iobj
    *.ipdb
    *.dll
    .vs/
    Debug/
    Release/
    /UpgradeLog*.htm
    /git.VC.VC.opendb
    /git.VC.db
    *.dSYM

Some (like TAGS and *.hcc) are our droppings (in other words, what
"make" with some build targets may produce), but most of these are
tool specific and according to our original official stance, they
should never have been added, but there they are.

I actually do not mind having common ones to the project .gitignore
as long as it does not get bloated too much with droppings from
esoteric tools that majority of us have never heard of.  It seems
that we have been punishing needlessly Emacs and vim users while
being sloppy about others' droppings.  A #leftoverbit may be to
have a brief discussion to gain consensus and add a few common ones
and/or remove too esoteric ones?  I dunno. 

>> +$(GIT_BUILD_DIR)/lib%.a:
>> +       ./build_rust.sh $(GIT_BUILD_DIR) $(RUST_BUILD_MODE) $*
>
> I wonder if this should follow the convention of most (but not quite
> all) other local shell script invocations in the Makefile of
> referencing SHELL_PATH; for instance:
>
>     $(QUIET_GEN)$(SHELL_PATH) ./build_rust.sh ...etc...
>
> with or without the $(QUIET_GEN) bit.

Good suggestion.  This reminds me of my favorite gripe, which is
that "make clean" makes no effort to be quiet by default; perhaps
leaving a #leftover bit marker here would help?

Thanks.

  reply	other threads:[~2025-09-17 14:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 100+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-08-29 19:42 [PATCH 00/15] Introduce rust: In xdiff Ezekiel Newren via GitGitGadget
2025-08-29 19:42 ` [PATCH 01/15] doc: add a policy for using Rust brian m. carlson via GitGitGadget
2025-08-29 20:00   ` brian m. carlson
2025-08-29 20:11     ` Ezekiel Newren
2025-09-02 16:39       ` brian m. carlson
2025-09-02 18:39         ` Ezekiel Newren
2025-09-04 22:55           ` Ezekiel Newren
2025-08-29 19:42 ` [PATCH 02/15] xdiff: introduce rust Ezekiel Newren via GitGitGadget
2025-08-29 19:42 ` [PATCH 03/15] github workflows: install rust Ezekiel Newren via GitGitGadget
2025-08-29 19:42 ` [PATCH 04/15] win+Meson: do allow linking with the Rust-built xdiff Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2025-08-29 19:42 ` [PATCH 05/15] github workflows: upload Cargo.lock Ezekiel Newren via GitGitGadget
2025-08-29 19:42 ` [PATCH 06/15] ivec: create a vector type that is interoperable between C and Rust Ezekiel Newren via GitGitGadget
2025-08-29 19:42 ` [PATCH 07/15] xdiff/xprepare: remove superfluous forward declarations Ezekiel Newren via GitGitGadget
2025-08-29 19:42 ` [PATCH 08/15] xdiff: delete unnecessary fields from xrecord_t and xdfile_t Ezekiel Newren via GitGitGadget
2025-08-29 19:42 ` [PATCH 09/15] xdiff: make fields of xrecord_t Rust friendly Ezekiel Newren via GitGitGadget
2025-08-29 19:42 ` [PATCH 10/15] xdiff: use one definition for freeing xdfile_t Ezekiel Newren via GitGitGadget
2025-08-29 19:42 ` [PATCH 11/15] xdiff: replace chastore with an ivec in xdfile_t Ezekiel Newren via GitGitGadget
2025-08-29 19:42 ` [PATCH 12/15] xdiff: delete nrec field from xdfile_t Ezekiel Newren via GitGitGadget
2025-08-29 19:42 ` [PATCH 13/15] xdiff: delete recs " Ezekiel Newren via GitGitGadget
2025-08-29 19:42 ` [PATCH 14/15] xdiff: make xdfile_t more rust friendly Ezekiel Newren via GitGitGadget
2025-08-29 19:42 ` [PATCH 15/15] xdiff: implement xdl_trim_ends() in Rust Ezekiel Newren via GitGitGadget
2025-09-17  1:16 ` [PATCH v2 00/18] Introduce rust: In xdiff Ezekiel Newren via GitGitGadget
2025-09-17  1:16   ` [PATCH v2 01/18] cleanup: rename variables that collide with Rust primitive type names Ezekiel Newren via GitGitGadget
2025-09-17  7:42     ` Eric Sunshine
2025-09-17 14:32       ` Junio C Hamano
2025-09-19 19:36         ` Ezekiel Newren
2025-09-17  1:16   ` [PATCH v2 02/18] make: add -fPIE flag Ezekiel Newren via GitGitGadget
2025-09-17  7:44     ` Eric Sunshine
2025-09-19 19:48       ` Ezekiel Newren
2025-09-19 20:07         ` Junio C Hamano
2025-09-19 21:52           ` Ezekiel Newren
2025-09-19 23:43             ` Junio C Hamano
2025-09-19 23:59               ` Collin Funk
2025-09-20 16:44                 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-09-21  1:14                   ` Ramsay Jones
2025-09-17  1:16   ` [PATCH v2 03/18] make: merge xdiff lib into libgit.a Ezekiel Newren via GitGitGadget
2025-09-17  7:46     ` Eric Sunshine
2025-09-19 19:54       ` Ezekiel Newren
2025-09-17  1:16   ` [PATCH v2 04/18] make: merge reftable " Ezekiel Newren via GitGitGadget
2025-09-17  7:46     ` Eric Sunshine
2025-09-19 19:02     ` Junio C Hamano
2025-09-19 20:00       ` Ezekiel Newren
2025-09-19 20:14         ` Junio C Hamano
2025-09-19 23:02           ` Ezekiel Newren
2025-09-17  1:16   ` [PATCH v2 05/18] doc: add a policy for using Rust brian m. carlson via GitGitGadget
2025-09-17  1:16   ` [PATCH v2 06/18] BreakingChanges: announce Rust becoming mandatory Patrick Steinhardt via GitGitGadget
2025-09-17  1:16   ` [PATCH v2 07/18] build: introduce rust Ezekiel Newren via GitGitGadget
2025-09-17  8:26     ` Eric Sunshine
2025-09-17 14:54       ` Junio C Hamano [this message]
2025-09-18  7:06         ` Eric Sunshine
2025-09-19 20:11       ` Ezekiel Newren
2025-09-19 20:24         ` Eric Sunshine
2025-09-19 21:28           ` Ezekiel Newren
2025-09-17  1:16   ` [PATCH v2 08/18] help: report on whether or not Rust is enabled Patrick Steinhardt via GitGitGadget
2025-09-17  1:16   ` [PATCH v2 09/18] github workflows: install rust Ezekiel Newren via GitGitGadget
2025-09-17  8:01     ` Eric Sunshine
2025-09-17  1:16   ` [PATCH v2 10/18] win+Meson: do allow linking with the Rust-built xdiff Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2025-09-17  1:16   ` [PATCH v2 11/18] github workflows: upload Cargo.lock Ezekiel Newren via GitGitGadget
2025-09-17  1:16   ` [PATCH v2 12/18] build: new crate, build-helper Ezekiel Newren via GitGitGadget
2025-09-17  8:58     ` Eric Sunshine
2025-09-17  1:16   ` [PATCH v2 13/18] build-helper: link against libgit.a and any other required C libraries Ezekiel Newren via GitGitGadget
2025-09-17  8:51     ` Eric Sunshine
2025-09-17 23:07       ` D. Ben Knoble
2025-09-17 23:31         ` Eric Sunshine
2025-09-19 20:25       ` Ezekiel Newren
2025-09-17  1:16   ` [PATCH v2 14/18] build-helper: cbindgen, let crates generate a header file Ezekiel Newren via GitGitGadget
2025-09-17  9:08     ` Eric Sunshine
2025-09-19 20:34       ` Ezekiel Newren
2025-09-17  1:16   ` [PATCH v2 15/18] varint: use explicit width for integers Patrick Steinhardt via GitGitGadget
2025-09-17  1:16   ` [PATCH v2 16/18] build: new crate, misc Ezekiel Newren via GitGitGadget
2025-09-17  9:16     ` Eric Sunshine
2025-09-19 20:42     ` Ezekiel Newren
2025-09-19 20:50       ` Eric Sunshine
2025-09-19 21:54         ` Ezekiel Newren
2025-09-17  1:16   ` [PATCH v2 17/18] misc: use BuildHelper Ezekiel Newren via GitGitGadget
2025-09-17  1:16   ` [PATCH v2 18/18] misc::varint: reimplement as test balloon for Rust Patrick Steinhardt via GitGitGadget
2025-09-17  5:58   ` [PATCH v2 00/18] Introduce rust: In xdiff Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-19 20:57     ` Ezekiel Newren
2025-09-22 13:01       ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-22 15:31         ` Ezekiel Newren
2025-09-22 16:08           ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-22 16:47           ` Junio C Hamano
2025-09-22 17:23             ` Ezekiel Newren
2025-09-22 17:32               ` Ezekiel Newren
2025-09-22 18:17                 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-09-22 18:33                   ` Ezekiel Newren
2025-09-22 18:41                     ` Junio C Hamano
2025-09-22 18:12               ` Junio C Hamano
2025-09-17 17:07   ` Junio C Hamano
2025-09-17 20:44     ` Junio C Hamano
2025-09-17 21:34     ` Elijah Newren
2025-09-17 22:48       ` Junio C Hamano
2025-09-22 13:01         ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-22 15:18           ` Ezekiel Newren
2025-09-22 16:15             ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-22 16:27               ` Ezekiel Newren
2025-09-23  5:11                 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-23 16:32                   ` Ezekiel Newren
2025-09-23 18:05   ` Ezekiel Newren
2025-09-23 21:04     ` Junio C Hamano

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