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From: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
To: Aditya Garg <gargaditya08@live.com>
Cc: ehuels@gmail.com,  git@vger.kernel.org,
	 gregkh@linuxfoundation.org, julian@swagemakers.org,
	 mirth.hickford@gmail.com, sandals@crustytoothpaste.net,
	 wiagn233@outlook.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] send-email: add --smtp-outlook-id-tweak option
Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2025 13:47:19 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <xmqqh628au94.fsf@gitster.g> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <PN3PR01MB9597D897A65B4B59BA6FA93CB8812@PN3PR01MB9597.INDPRD01.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM> (Aditya Garg's message of "Mon, 28 Apr 2025 17:57:15 +0000")

Aditya Garg <gargaditya08@live.com> writes:

> Add an option to allow users to specifically enable or disable
> retrieving the Message-ID from the Outlook SMTP server. This can be used
> for other hosts mimicking the behaviour of Outlook, or for users who set
> a custom domain to be a CNAME for the Outlook SMTP server.
>
> Helped-by: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
> Signed-off-by: Aditya Garg <gargaditya08@live.com>
> ---
> v2: Replace tab with spaces in "outlookidtweak" => \$outlook_id_tweak,

Good eyes ;-)

> +--smtp-outlook-id-tweak=(always|never|auto)::
> +	Outlook servers discard the Message-ID sent via email and assign a
> +	new random Message-ID, thus breaking threads.
> ++
> +--
> +- 'auto' will attempt to retrieve the ID from the server only if the SMTP
> +  server is 'smtp.office365.com' or 'smtp-mail.outlook.com'.
> +- 'always' will attempt to retrieve the ID from the server irrespective of
> +  the SMTP server being used. Use only if Microsoft is your email provider.
> +- 'never' will disable this tweak irrespective of theSMTP server being used.

It is a shame that this is not just a simple boolean.  Those who
expect 'true' to kick in would be disappointed to find that their
'true' means the same thing as 'auto'.

If I were designing this feature, I would rather make it say:

    --[no-]outlook-message-id-fix::

	Outlook servers [DO THIS].  Giving this option reads the
	message-id assigned by the Outlook server and use it as the
	In-Reply-To message ID for subsequent messages.  Without the
	option, connections to only ... and ... automatically gets
	this tweak.  Pass `--no-outlook-message-id-fix` to disable
	the fix even for these hosts.

and make the implementation behave that way.

Note that this is a command line option that is specific to
git-send-email, so I omitted "smtp" from the name and instead
replaced 'id' with 'message-id' to make it more explicit what
gets munged.

But I do not care too deeply either way.  Let me queue the patch
as-is for now.

Thanks.

  reply	other threads:[~2025-04-28 20:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-04-23 12:19 [PATCH v4 0/3] send-email: add oauth2 support and fix outlook breaking threads Aditya Garg
2025-04-23 12:19 ` [PATCH v4 1/3] send-email: implement SMTP bearer authentication Aditya Garg
2025-04-23 18:04   ` Junio C Hamano
2025-04-23 18:33     ` Aditya Garg
2025-04-24  6:36       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2025-04-24  8:23         ` Aditya Garg
2025-04-23 12:19 ` [PATCH v4 2/3] send-email: retrieve Message-ID from outlook SMTP server Aditya Garg
2025-04-23 18:54   ` Junio C Hamano
2025-04-23 22:52   ` brian m. carlson
2025-04-24  3:42     ` Aditya Garg
2025-04-23 12:19 ` [PATCH v4 3/3] send-email: add option to generate passswords like OAuth2 tokens Aditya Garg
2025-04-23 19:03   ` Junio C Hamano
2025-04-24  3:29     ` Aditya Garg
2025-04-24 12:43       ` Junio C Hamano
2025-04-23 20:50 ` [PATCH v4 0/3] send-email: add oauth2 support and fix outlook breaking threads M Hickford
2025-04-24  3:44   ` Aditya Garg
2025-04-24  7:53 ` [PATCH v5 " Aditya Garg
2025-04-24  7:53   ` [PATCH v5 1/3] send-email: implement SMTP bearer authentication Aditya Garg
2025-04-24 12:12     ` Julian Swagemakers
     [not found]     ` <CACOoB6jE=DgpYYaudhqTVDRd2SCz++aog7QYwTQs6-MAD8dBuw@mail.gmail.com>
2025-04-24 18:22       ` Aditya Garg
2025-04-24 19:20         ` Erik Huelsmann
2025-04-25  6:19         ` Julian Swagemakers
2025-04-25  6:25           ` Aditya Garg
2025-04-25  9:45           ` Aditya Garg
2025-04-25 10:17             ` Erik Hulsmann
2025-04-24 18:23       ` Aditya Garg
2025-04-24  7:53   ` [PATCH v5 2/3] send-email: retrieve Message-ID from outlook SMTP server Aditya Garg
2025-04-24 13:09     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2025-04-26 18:11       ` Yao Zi
2025-04-27 20:05         ` Aditya Garg
2025-04-28  4:16           ` Yao Zi
2025-04-27 19:44       ` Aditya Garg
2025-04-24  7:53   ` [PATCH v5 3/3] send-email: add option to generate passswords like OAuth2 tokens Aditya Garg
2025-04-24 12:28     ` Julian Swagemakers
2025-04-24 12:53       ` Aditya Garg
2025-04-24 15:20         ` Junio C Hamano
2025-04-24 15:46           ` Aditya Garg
2025-04-24 16:58             ` Junio C Hamano
2025-04-25 10:09 ` [PATCH v6 0/1] send-email: add oauth2 support and fix outlook breaking threads Aditya Garg
2025-04-25 10:09   ` [PATCH v6 1/1] send-email: retrieve Message-ID from outlook SMTP server Aditya Garg
2025-04-25 15:04     ` Aditya Garg
2025-04-25 16:22       ` Erik Huelsmann
2025-04-25 17:08         ` Junio C Hamano
2025-04-25 19:05           ` Erik Huelsmann
2025-04-25 19:08             ` Aditya Garg
2025-04-25 17:23     ` Junio C Hamano
2025-04-25 19:05       ` Aditya Garg
2025-04-26  8:36       ` Aditya Garg
2025-04-26  9:03         ` Eric Sunshine
2025-04-26 17:40           ` Aditya Garg
2025-04-28 16:52         ` Junio C Hamano
2025-04-28 17:52           ` [PATCH] send-email: add --smtp-outlook-id-tweak option Aditya Garg
2025-04-28 17:57             ` [PATCH v2] " Aditya Garg
2025-04-28 20:47               ` Junio C Hamano [this message]
2025-04-29  3:44                 ` Aditya Garg
2025-04-29 10:52             ` [PATCH v3] send-email: add --[no-]outlook-id-fix option Aditya Garg
2025-04-29 11:00               ` Aditya Garg
2025-04-29 15:57               ` Junio C Hamano
2025-04-29 16:24               ` Junio C Hamano
2025-04-29 16:26                 ` Aditya Garg
2025-04-29 16:37             ` [PATCH v4] " Aditya Garg
2025-04-29 23:08               ` Junio C Hamano
2025-04-30  8:31                 ` Aditya Garg

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