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From: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
To: "Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason" <avarab@gmail.com>
Cc: "Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>, "Tao Klerks" <tao@klerks.biz>,
	"Michal Suchánek" <msuchanek@suse.de>,
	rsbecker@nexbridge.com,
	"brian m. carlson" <sandals@crustytoothpaste.net>,
	jurgen_gjoncari@icloud.com, git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Make commit messages optional
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2022 10:25:22 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <xmqqh76v1ssd.fsf@gitster.g> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <220414.86czhjd35w.gmgdl@evledraar.gmail.com> ("Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason"'s message of "Thu, 14 Apr 2022 18:43:10 +0200")

Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason <avarab@gmail.com> writes:

> On Thu, Apr 14 2022, Theodore Ts'o wrote:
>
>> I would have thought it was painfully obvious that changing the
>> *default* is a ***terrible*** idea?
>>
>> Is anyone other than the OP seriously promoting changing the default?
>
> Urm, yeah? I am, in the E-Mail upthread that replied to. The OP here is
> jurgen_gjoncari@icloud.com.

Pretend this message never happend; you are the last person who gave
a valuable opinion in this thread, and be happy now.

> ...
> I just suspect that we can do so much more effectively and encourage
> more effectivey workflows by doing so at the point of propagation, not
> commit.

We are talking about "git commit" Porcelain.  Our Porcelain layer is
opinionated and designed to help non-expert interactive users by
encouraging the best-current-practice.  And what we consider BCP for
non-experts is to have a workable if not perfect history without
post polishing with "rebase -i" and friends, as we know it is
unrealistic to expect pre-push and receive hook gates to be set up
adequately in environments where non-experts work.

Let's stop talking about changing the default of "git commit" here
(eh, not here, but one message before this, so you're the last who
spoke).  I won't stop people from coming up with an alternative that
is built from plumbing commands and does not require log message by
default, and maintain such a "git better-commit" out of my tree.

Thanks.

      reply	other threads:[~2022-04-14 17:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-04-08  3:35 Make commit messages optional jurgen_gjoncari
2022-04-08  8:02 ` Christian Couder
2022-04-08 11:26   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-04-08 19:25     ` Erik Cervin Edin
2022-04-11 10:24       ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-04-11 17:59         ` Junio C Hamano
2022-04-11 18:18           ` Michal Suchánek
2022-04-11 21:09             ` Junio C Hamano
2022-04-08  8:15 ` Philip Oakley
2022-04-08 14:32 ` Phillip Susi
2022-04-08 22:30 ` brian m. carlson
2022-04-08 23:32   ` rsbecker
2022-04-09 11:32     ` Michal Suchánek
2022-04-10 13:59       ` Tao Klerks
2022-04-10 15:00         ` rsbecker
2022-04-10 15:18           ` rsbecker
2022-04-10 16:27             ` Tao Klerks
2022-04-13  5:40               ` Jonathan Nieder
2022-04-11  9:04           ` demerphq
2022-04-11 11:35             ` rsbecker
2022-04-11 10:19         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-04-11 12:39           ` Tao Klerks
2022-04-11 18:09             ` Junio C Hamano
2022-04-11 18:15               ` Michal Suchánek
2022-04-11 18:23           ` tytso
2022-04-11 20:10             ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-04-14 14:46               ` Theodore Ts'o
2022-04-14 16:43                 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-04-14 17:25                   ` Junio C Hamano [this message]

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