[OutReachy] Introduction and Contribution Phase

[OutReachy] Introduction and Contribution Phase

[Neema Joju]

Hi,
My name is Neema. Pronouns (she/her/hers).
I am an Outreachy applicant. Completed my initial application and am
currently in the contribution phase. Looking forward to working with
you.

I have read through
https://git.github.io/General-Microproject-Information/,
https://git.github.io/General-Application-Information/ and
https://git.github.io/SoC-2024-Microprojects/.

I am in the process of selecting a microproject. However, there are
some things I would like to clarify. As a part of outreachy
contribution phase, making one contribution is mandatory. In the
Project Contribution Information
[https://www.outreachy.org/outreachy-dec-2024-internship-cohort/communities/git/]
section, an applicant has to complete a tutorial, microproject and
then make a contribution.
While I see detailed instructions regarding the microproject, there
aren't any regarding contributions. Is the microproject considered the
contribution? or are they separate entities?

(I apologize for the double emailing)

Thank you

Re: [OutReachy] Introduction and Contribution Phase

[Patrick Steinhardt]

On Thu, Oct 10, 2024 at 10:21:54AM +0530, Usman Akinyemi wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 10, 2024, 10:17 AM Neema Joju <neemajoju96@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> > My name is Neema. Pronouns (she/her/hers).
> > I am an Outreachy applicant. Completed my initial application and am
> > currently in the contribution phase. Looking forward to working with
> > you.
> >
> > I have read through
> > https://git.github.io/General-Microproject-Information/,
> > https://git.github.io/General-Application-Information/ and
> > https://git.github.io/SoC-2024-Microprojects/.
> >
> > I am in the process of selecting a microproject. However, there are
> > some things I would like to clarify. As a part of outreachy
> > contribution phase, making one contribution is mandatory. In the
> > Project Contribution Information
> > [
> > https://www.outreachy.org/outreachy-dec-2024-internship-cohort/communities/git/
> > ]
> > section, an applicant has to complete a tutorial, microproject and
> > then make a contribution.
> > While I see detailed instructions regarding the microproject, there
> > aren't any regarding contributions. Is the microproject considered the
> > contribution? or are they separate entities?
> >
> 
> Hi Neema, when you do the Microproject, you are also contributing to Git.
> The Microproject is all about making a contribution. You can also wait to
> hear more from the mentor.

No need to say much more than you did though, as what you've been saying
is exactly right :) The microproject is how applicants demonstrate their
ability to adapt to the workflow in the Git project. So this is how we
mentors ultimately decide which applicant is likely to be the best fit
for the Git project.

You are of course free to do additional changes after you have completed
the microproject to get more familiar with how things work. After all,
this is an open source project, so people are free to contribute at any
point in time. But this is not a requirement.

Patrick

Re: [OutReachy] Introduction and Contribution Phase

[Neema Joju]

On Thu, Oct 10, 2024 at 11:12 AM Patrick Steinhardt <ps@pks.im> wrote:
>
> On Thu, Oct 10, 2024 at 10:21:54AM +0530, Usman Akinyemi wrote:
> > On Thu, Oct 10, 2024, 10:17 AM Neema Joju <neemajoju96@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > > My name is Neema. Pronouns (she/her/hers).
> > > I am an Outreachy applicant. Completed my initial application and am
> > > currently in the contribution phase. Looking forward to working with
> > > you.
> > >
> > > I have read through
> > > https://git.github.io/General-Microproject-Information/,
> > > https://git.github.io/General-Application-Information/ and
> > > https://git.github.io/SoC-2024-Microprojects/.
> > >
> > > I am in the process of selecting a microproject. However, there are
> > > some things I would like to clarify. As a part of outreachy
> > > contribution phase, making one contribution is mandatory. In the
> > > Project Contribution Information
> > > [
> > > https://www.outreachy.org/outreachy-dec-2024-internship-cohort/communities/git/
> > > ]
> > > section, an applicant has to complete a tutorial, microproject and
> > > then make a contribution.
> > > While I see detailed instructions regarding the microproject, there
> > > aren't any regarding contributions. Is the microproject considered the
> > > contribution? or are they separate entities?
> > >
> >
> > Hi Neema, when you do the Microproject, you are also contributing to Git.
> > The Microproject is all about making a contribution. You can also wait to
> > hear more from the mentor.
>
> No need to say much more than you did though, as what you've been saying
> is exactly right :) The microproject is how applicants demonstrate their
> ability to adapt to the workflow in the Git project. So this is how we
> mentors ultimately decide which applicant is likely to be the best fit
> for the Git project.
>
> You are of course free to do additional changes after you have completed
> the microproject to get more familiar with how things work. After all,
> this is an open source project, so people are free to contribute at any
> point in time. But this is not a requirement.
>
> Patrick

Thanks Patrick. Thanks Usman.

Re: [OutReachy] Introduction and Contribution Phase

[Junio C Hamano]

Patrick Steinhardt <ps@pks.im> writes:

>> > ... As a part of outreachy
>> > contribution phase, making one contribution is mandatory. In the
>> > Project Contribution Information
>> > [
>> > https://www.outreachy.org/outreachy-dec-2024-internship-cohort/communities/git/
>> > ]
>> > section, an applicant has to complete a tutorial, microproject and
>> > then make a contribution.
> ...
> You are of course free to do additional changes after you have completed
> the microproject to get more familiar with how things work. After all,
> this is an open source project, so people are free to contribute at any
> point in time. But this is not a requirement.

There seems to be a bit of confusion between what Outreachy wants to
see and what we need to see before adopting somebody as an Outreachy
intern.

I doubt Outreachy considers a microproject contribution qualifies as
the "required" contribution.

Instead of being a theme for a full 3-months internship, a
microproject is designed to be a bite-sized project, with which a
potential participant can experience the end-to-end contribution
process of proposing a change, polishing it while working with
others, and seeing the evolution of the proposed change through to
completion, without requiring technical skills or project specific
knowledge.  It is primarily a "dip your toes in the water, learn how
things are done in the development community that may choose you as
an intern" practice session.

As Patrick said, it may still be a "contribution" from the Git
project's point of view, but it is not designed to be something that
qualifies as a "Contribution" they talk about when they say the
"Applicants are required to make a contribution" section in their
https://www.outreachy.org/docs/applicant/#make-contributions page.