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From: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
To: Patrick Steinhardt <ps@pks.im>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org,
	 Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de>,
	Phillip Wood <phillip.wood123@gmail.com>,
	 Justin Tobler <jltobler@gmail.com>,
	 Dragan Simic <dsimic@manjaro.org>,
	 Karthik Nayak <karthik.188@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 2/4] BreakingChanges: document upcoming change from "sha1" to "sha256"
Date: Fri, 31 May 2024 10:00:27 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <xmqqikytgbmc.fsf@gitster.g> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7c84b2f957595a3d8bc6d28970a009339c5fbf5c.1717141598.git.ps@pks.im> (Patrick Steinhardt's message of "Fri, 31 May 2024 09:56:37 +0200")

Patrick Steinhardt <ps@pks.im> writes:

> Let's plan for this event by being active instead of waiting for it to
> happend and announce that the default object format is going to change
> from "sha1" to "sha256" with Git 3.0.

"happened" -> "happen,"

> All major Git implementations (libgit2, JGit, go-git) support the
> "sha256" object format and are thus prepared for this change. The most
> important missing piece in the puzzle is support in forges. But while
> GitLab recently gained experimental support for the "sha256" object
> format though, to the best of my knowledge GitHub doesn't support it
> yet. Ideally, announcing this upcoming change will encourage forges to
> start building that support.

;-)  Nevertheless, we probably want some of that in the body text.

> Signed-off-by: Patrick Steinhardt <ps@pks.im>
> ---
>  Documentation/BreakingChanges.md | 27 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>  1 file changed, 27 insertions(+)
>
> diff --git a/Documentation/BreakingChanges.md b/Documentation/BreakingChanges.md
> index d8a26c9bf9..1b0a357e65 100644
> --- a/Documentation/BreakingChanges.md
> +++ b/Documentation/BreakingChanges.md
> @@ -56,6 +56,33 @@ be changed to or replaced in case the alternative was implemented already.
>  
>  ### Changes
>  
> +  - The default hash function for new repositories will be changed from "sha1"
> +    to "sha256". SHA-1 has been deprecated by NIST in 2011 and is nowadays
> +    recommended against in FIPS 140-2 and similar certifications. Furthermore,
> +    there are practical attacks on SHA-1 that weaken its cryptographic properties:
> +
> +      - The SHAppening (2015). The first demonstration of a practical attack
> +        against SHA-1 with 2^57 operations.
> +
> +      - SHAttered (2017). Generation of two valid PDF files with 2^63 operations.
> +
> +      - Birthday-Near-Collision (2019). This attack allows for chosen prefix
> +        attacks with 2^68 operations.
> +
> +      - Shambles (2020). This attack allows for chosen prefix attacks with 2^63
> +        operations.
> +
> +    While we have protections in place against known attacks, it is expected
> +    that more attacks against SHA-1 will be found by future research. Paired
> +    with the ever-growing capability of hardware, it is only a matter of time
> +    before SHA-1 will be considered broken completely. We want to be prepared
> +    and will thus change the default hash algorithm to "sha256" for newly
> +    initialized repositories.
> +
> +    Cf. <2f5de416-04ba-c23d-1e0b-83bb655829a7@zombino.com>,
> +        <20170223155046.e7nxivfwqqoprsqj@LykOS.localdomain>,
> +        <CA+EOSBncr=4a4d8n9xS4FNehyebpmX8JiUwCsXD47EQDE+DiUQ@mail.gmail.com>.

We probably need to at least briefly mention external constraints
here.  Even though in our ideal world, what we say here will force
others like GitHub to follow, in the real world that is not always
the case.  As this particular commit is about establishing the
pattern, expected form of each entry, how about adding convention to
have a paragraph on "foreseen risks", in addition to the "what we
plan to do", and "why we want to go there" we see above?

>  ### Removals
>  
>  ## Superseded features that will not be deprecated

Thanks.

  reply	other threads:[~2024-05-31 17:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 97+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-05-07  8:27 [RFC PATCH] docs: document upcoming breaking changes Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-07 10:38 ` Johannes Schindelin
2024-05-08 13:55   ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-07 22:02 ` Junio C Hamano
2024-05-08 13:54   ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-08 14:58     ` Junio C Hamano
2024-05-08 15:59     ` Dragan Simic
2024-05-10 11:36       ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-10 12:43         ` Dragan Simic
2024-05-08 13:15 ` Phillip Wood
2024-05-08 13:55   ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-10  2:15 ` Justin Tobler
2024-05-10  4:47   ` Junio C Hamano
2024-05-14  6:50     ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-14  6:16 ` [RFC PATCH v2] " Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-14 10:48   ` Karthik Nayak
2024-05-14 11:22     ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-14 15:45       ` Junio C Hamano
2024-05-14 12:32     ` Dragan Simic
2024-05-24 12:54 ` [PATCH v3] " Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-24 17:27   ` Junio C Hamano
2024-05-30 12:04     ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-30  3:23   ` Commands using -h as an option don't work consistently Junio C Hamano
2024-06-03 18:33     ` Junio C Hamano
2024-06-03 20:05       ` [PATCH 0/3] Branches are branches and not heads Junio C Hamano
2024-06-03 20:05         ` [PATCH 1/3] refs: call branches branches Junio C Hamano
2024-06-03 21:32           ` Eric Sunshine
2024-06-03 20:05         ` [PATCH 2/3] ls-remote: introduce --branches and deprecate --heads Junio C Hamano
2024-06-03 21:30           ` Rubén Justo
2024-06-03 21:42             ` Eric Sunshine
2024-06-03 21:48               ` Junio C Hamano
2024-06-03 20:05         ` [PATCH 3/3] show-ref: " Junio C Hamano
2024-06-03 21:32         ` [PATCH 0/3] Branches are branches and not heads Rubén Justo
2024-06-04  7:56           ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-06-04 22:01         ` [PATCH v2 " Junio C Hamano
2024-06-04 22:01           ` [PATCH v2 1/3] refs: call branches branches Junio C Hamano
2024-06-04 22:01           ` [PATCH v2 2/3] ls-remote: introduce --branches and deprecate --heads Junio C Hamano
2024-06-06  9:39             ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-06-06 15:18               ` Junio C Hamano
2024-06-04 22:01           ` [PATCH v2 3/3] show-ref: " Junio C Hamano
2024-06-14 19:32             ` Elijah Newren
2024-06-14 21:21               ` Junio C Hamano
2024-06-14 21:34                 ` Elijah Newren
2024-06-14 21:42                   ` Elijah Newren
2024-06-14 22:46                     ` Junio C Hamano
2024-06-06  9:39           ` [PATCH v2 0/3] Branches are branches and not heads Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-31  7:56 ` [PATCH v4 0/4] docs: document upcoming breaking changes Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-31  7:56   ` [PATCH v4 1/4] docs: introduce document to announce " Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-31 16:51     ` Junio C Hamano
2024-06-03  9:32       ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-06-03 16:17         ` Junio C Hamano
2024-06-04  7:42           ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-31  7:56   ` [PATCH v4 2/4] BreakingChanges: document upcoming change from "sha1" to "sha256" Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-31 17:00     ` Junio C Hamano [this message]
2024-05-31  7:56   ` [PATCH v4 3/4] BreakingChanges: document removal of grafting Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-31  7:56   ` [PATCH v4 4/4] BreakingChanges: document that we do not plan to deprecate git-checkout Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-31 17:05     ` Junio C Hamano
2024-05-31 23:35       ` Todd Zullinger
2024-05-31  8:43   ` [PATCH v4 0/4] docs: document upcoming breaking changes Junio C Hamano
2024-05-31 11:15     ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-06-03  9:28 ` [PATCH v5 " Patrick Steinhardt
2024-06-03  9:28   ` [PATCH v5 1/4] docs: introduce document to announce " Patrick Steinhardt
2024-06-03 14:08     ` Phillip Wood
2024-06-03 16:24     ` Junio C Hamano
2024-06-04  6:59       ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-06-03  9:28   ` [PATCH v5 2/4] BreakingChanges: document upcoming change from "sha1" to "sha256" Patrick Steinhardt
2024-06-03 16:36     ` Junio C Hamano
2024-06-04  7:06       ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-06-04 17:16         ` Junio C Hamano
2024-06-03  9:28   ` [PATCH v5 3/4] BreakingChanges: document removal of grafting Patrick Steinhardt
2024-06-03 16:42     ` Junio C Hamano
2024-06-03  9:28   ` [PATCH v5 4/4] BreakingChanges: document that we do not plan to deprecate git-checkout Patrick Steinhardt
2024-06-03 16:52     ` Junio C Hamano
2024-06-04  7:11       ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-06-04 12:32 ` [PATCH v6 0/4] docs: document upcoming breaking changes Patrick Steinhardt
2024-06-04 12:32   ` [PATCH v6 1/4] docs: introduce document to announce " Patrick Steinhardt
2024-06-04 17:59     ` Junio C Hamano
2024-06-05  5:31       ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-06-05 16:03         ` Junio C Hamano
2024-06-05 17:52           ` Junio C Hamano
2024-06-06  4:35             ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-06-04 12:32   ` [PATCH v6 2/4] BreakingChanges: document upcoming change from "sha1" to "sha256" Patrick Steinhardt
2024-06-04 12:32   ` [PATCH v6 3/4] BreakingChanges: document removal of grafting Patrick Steinhardt
2024-06-04 18:00     ` Junio C Hamano
2024-06-04 12:32   ` [PATCH v6 4/4] BreakingChanges: document that we do not plan to deprecate git-checkout Patrick Steinhardt
2024-06-04 14:23   ` [PATCH v6 0/4] docs: document upcoming breaking changes Phillip Wood
2024-06-04 18:01     ` Junio C Hamano
2024-06-05  5:32       ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-06-14  6:42 ` [PATCH v7 " Patrick Steinhardt
2024-06-14  6:42   ` [PATCH v7 1/4] docs: introduce document to announce " Patrick Steinhardt
2024-06-14 16:08     ` Junio C Hamano
2024-06-14  6:42   ` [PATCH v7 2/4] BreakingChanges: document upcoming change from "sha1" to "sha256" Patrick Steinhardt
2024-06-14  6:42   ` [PATCH v7 3/4] BreakingChanges: document removal of grafting Patrick Steinhardt
2024-06-14  6:42   ` [PATCH v7 4/4] BreakingChanges: document that we do not plan to deprecate git-checkout Patrick Steinhardt
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2024-05-29 22:03 Commands using -h as an option don't work consistently Kevin Day
2024-05-29 22:22 ` Junio C Hamano
2024-05-29 22:40   ` Kevin Day

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