From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from fout-b6-smtp.messagingengine.com (fout-b6-smtp.messagingengine.com [202.12.124.149]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AFD5A1EA65 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2025 20:00:43 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=202.12.124.149 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1759348846; cv=none; b=Ndf7JZTUxp3nrqbdoOBr8U8Bpu9rb6M3uDy21DyA5VUpZyqN/OWBhuV7XeK1iI2SJAQNxhU0P/29O9mFzMt8vBIRYihobJw9zMxTsJh8wRbXBbduTOmT8dIhkJpXM/nPbmlo/HyE/udSg/uhzOGnrKGxHCND3TuqhO4Btb2V1kc= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1759348846; c=relaxed/simple; bh=qT/y37cqZi8tfAqxROfaapo5QdiE0ILud2sNl9TiPBs=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:Message-ID: MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=kvd2cGQBbXZSG36xSz9+Bf+o6zXasOkPbGNLTKI0IdWFgcaFyhVsslJ7892MKXvjJl0rrXYpt1ZWO0cBqfKkwW2igIVNQ2Vf1nK9vqJVA/UokBidc/54w15JXglSK6/G0HxBcBupWwRrk2HpC47Dn7zyxAWmpzzxcGAbW4jh8IM= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=none dis=none) header.from=pobox.com; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=pobox.com; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=pobox.com header.i=@pobox.com header.b=FZMLgteZ; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=messagingengine.com header.i=@messagingengine.com header.b=g3AHziwB; arc=none smtp.client-ip=202.12.124.149 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=none dis=none) header.from=pobox.com Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=pobox.com Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=pobox.com header.i=@pobox.com header.b="FZMLgteZ"; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=messagingengine.com header.i=@messagingengine.com header.b="g3AHziwB" Received: from phl-compute-05.internal (phl-compute-05.internal [10.202.2.45]) by mailfout.stl.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE7071D0082B; Wed, 1 Oct 2025 16:00:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phl-frontend-02 ([10.202.2.161]) by phl-compute-05.internal (MEProxy); Wed, 01 Oct 2025 16:00:42 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=pobox.com; h=cc :cc:content-type:content-type:date:date:from:from:in-reply-to :in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references:reply-to:subject :subject:to:to; s=fm1; t=1759348842; x=1759435242; bh=6zM+wOsPMz bAzmrzoewa1Rf0LVquf4I7GafJMhmGDtI=; b=FZMLgteZbMtzc2PDw7XX2spHYq 5DPG4urCxznaZt1u4AvPVyCRtwHhEF6hoHXQPGaOWdL2nwgjxivN1Y+YXYQPkVMm cGNu5imkCUslIiMFzDftPrfTmN6koPOv+n2MJSlP6/V3nsTvUjSLIDscJwQmddH8 59Ezu4GyUIPbxLtwb7TVkcWaVMSMlnHtlvT7AcwfGgfTbz8qp3+Yt4/RY4ODXAms AdguYaX74jC6BtTpaD6qsoLj05HwHvb5kK04LKqh0qO57npX1dByzU1fpDflehzz nnDuQkoig1W9dQN/G5mepncxiMtnWtG1OnV4BX7LYNJzUNcZX++7Laepzufg== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:cc:content-type:content-type:date:date :feedback-id:feedback-id:from:from:in-reply-to:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:reply-to:subject:subject:to :to:x-me-proxy:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm2; t= 1759348842; x=1759435242; bh=6zM+wOsPMzbAzmrzoewa1Rf0LVquf4I7Gaf JMhmGDtI=; b=g3AHziwBOCCyP91/kM0QG0yBHWo4XtPwO3TR1cb9de2nR8HrFh3 iyWhqq+2IZI9qjJ+eTHVmIMXZM/N2YzF8r2BfNBEnKRlm+D/7Ma6f3lPcZRdwZ2P jBTBxDUITkcRoqhjukSmnoAtt80FaUGAeW+gmoOlstB48RyVuFBU7YvJdotg+kt9 lVQqh3SVGkdGZH1IWhrX0oCX3aVBzMS1Ujq3pOmXrBa9mW9/utaep63IjhztP9A8 eG/30qcrFrZQj9v/FTgNJrK6GmYjUeoS7EEP/sKN8WFxSYn+vhwFH09Vi0tKGEYc vY3W8hJQC/N8+i2vNh2d5wuDBZyzaL5LkLA== X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Received: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgeeffedrtdeggdekgedtgecutefuodetggdotefrod ftvfcurfhrohhfihhlvgemucfhrghsthforghilhdpuffrtefokffrpgfnqfghnecuuegr ihhlohhuthemuceftddtnecusecvtfgvtghiphhivghnthhsucdlqddutddtmdenucfjug hrpefhvfevufgjfhffkfgfgggtsehttdertddtredtnecuhfhrohhmpefluhhnihhoucev ucfjrghmrghnohcuoehgihhtshhtvghrsehpohgsohigrdgtohhmqeenucggtffrrghtth gvrhhnpeefveetteejheeugeffledvteeiveffueefjeelueffteeigffgfedthfefieeg ieenucevlhhushhtvghrufhiiigvpedtnecurfgrrhgrmhepmhgrihhlfhhrohhmpehgih htshhtvghrsehpohgsohigrdgtohhmpdhnsggprhgtphhtthhopeegpdhmohguvgepshhm thhpohhuthdprhgtphhtthhopehpshesphhkshdrihhmpdhrtghpthhtohepmhgvsehtth grhihlohhrrhdrtghomhdprhgtphhtthhopehgihhtsehvghgvrhdrkhgvrhhnvghlrdho rhhgpdhrtghpthhtohepghhithhsthgvrhesphhosghogidrtghomh X-ME-Proxy: Feedback-ID: if26b431b:Fastmail Received: by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA; Wed, 1 Oct 2025 16:00:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Junio C Hamano To: Patrick Steinhardt Cc: Taylor Blau , git@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [RFC] How to accellerate the patch flow (or should we?) In-Reply-To: (Patrick Steinhardt's message of "Tue, 30 Sep 2025 01:25:03 +0200") References: Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2025 13:00:40 -0700 Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Patrick Steinhardt writes: > On Mon, Sep 29, 2025 at 03:46:47PM -0700, Junio C Hamano wrote: >> Patrick Steinhardt writes: >> >> > Despite the potential awkwardness I have to wonder whether this would >> > even help us with the goal to speed up the overall process. To me it >> > rather feels like there's another step now that a patch series has to go >> > through, so my naive expectation is that it will rather slow the process >> > down even more. >> > >> > Am I missing something? >> >> The above is an effort to reduce the chance/risk that the maintainer >> is *not* made aware of the fact that a topic has already been well >> reviewed, or the latest reroll has addressed all the issues >> previously have pointed out and the reviewers are happy with its >> shape, and ready to be merged to 'next', just left in 'seen' labeled >> with "Will merge to 'next'?", etc. > > Ah, okay, that makes more sense then. So basically, reviewers should > more explicitly state their overall opinion on a patch series so that it > becomes easier for you to figure out the current state at a glance? If they did so, it may reduce the time a topic wastes in limbo, waiting for me to notice that it is ready. What I do not know is if such an additional burden on reviewers would slow us down overall. Thanks.