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From: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
To: Alexander Shopov <ash@kambanaria.org>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org,  worldhello.net@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3 1/1] parse-options: localize mark-up of placeholder text in the short help
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2024 08:39:38 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <xmqqjzhm7jgl.fsf@gitster.g> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAP6f5MkGQssKyAdgN3rbzfTZtPgETaSjpm3JevuaLg-vh_pNug@mail.gmail.com> (Alexander Shopov's message of "Sun, 14 Jul 2024 22:41:28 +0200")

Alexander Shopov <ash@kambanaria.org> writes:

> Will the patch for expose substitution hint chars be included in 2.46?
> Should I do anything more?

Sorry, I lost track.  Did we resolve why "<>" is special and but
"[]" is OK to leave out of the translatable text?  IOW, is there
much point in advising the translators that "<>" is something
specifically they are allowed to change?

Stepping back a bit, would translators (especially for languages
without any need for the ability to replace <> with something else)
understand when told

    TRANSLATORS: change `<>' to other characters or leave as is

why anybody would want to change it in the first place?  Stepping
back even a bit more, probably making it clear to them what these
instances of [<%s>], [=<%s>], etc., are doing would be sufficient
to help them making the right decision?

If a translator for a hypothetical language that uses say „%s“
reads

	/* TRANSLATORS: <%s> here stands for an command line argument */
	_("<%s>")

in the comment, wouldn't that be sufficient to tell them they are
allowed to change "<>" to "„“"?

Similarly, explaining [<%s>] as "optional command line argument",
would tell them that it is OK for them to replace not just <> but
also [] if their language requires such a change, no?

Thanks for pinging.

>> diff --git a/parse-options.c b/parse-options.c
>> index 30b9e68f8a..06d962b00e 100644
>> --- a/parse-options.c
>> +++ b/parse-options.c
>> @@ -1070,11 +1070,17 @@ static int usage_argh(const struct option *opts, FILE *outfile)
>>                 !opts->argh || !!strpbrk(opts->argh, "()<>[]|");
>>         if (opts->flags & PARSE_OPT_OPTARG)
>>                 if (opts->long_name)
>> -                       s = literal ? "[=%s]" : "[=<%s>]";
>> +                       s = literal ? "[=%s]" :
>> +                         /* TRANSLATORS: change `<>' to other characters or leave as is */
>> +                         _("[=<%s>]");
>>                 else
>> -                       s = literal ? "[%s]" : "[<%s>]";
>> +                       s = literal ? "[%s]" :
>> +                         /* TRANSLATORS: change `<>' to other characters or leave as is */
>> +                         _("[<%s>]");
>>         else
>> -               s = literal ? " %s" : " <%s>";
>> +               s = literal ? " %s" :
>> +                 /* TRANSLATORS: change `<>' to other characters or leave as is */
>> +                 _(" <%s>");
>>         return utf8_fprintf(outfile, s, opts->argh ? _(opts->argh) : _("..."));
>>  }
>>
>> --
>> 2.45.2
>>

  reply	other threads:[~2024-07-15 15:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-04-21 19:14 [[PATCH] [RESUBMIT 2nd] Consistency for substitution hints (i18n) 0/1] Alexander Shopov
2024-04-21 19:14 ` [[PATCH] [RESUBMIT 2nd] Consistency for substitution hints (i18n) 1/1] parse-options: use localized substitution hints Alexander Shopov
2024-04-21 19:33   ` Junio C Hamano
2024-05-25 12:24     ` [PATCH 2 0/1] Allowing localized substitution hints in parse-options Alexander Shopov
2024-05-27 18:14       ` Junio C Hamano
2024-05-28  0:47         ` Jiang Xin
2024-05-25 12:24     ` [PATCH 2 1/1] parse-options: allow localized substitution hints in macros Alexander Shopov
2024-05-27 18:14       ` Junio C Hamano
2024-07-07 15:35         ` [PATCH 3 0/1] parse-options: localize mark-up of placeholder text in the short help Alexander Shopov
2024-07-07 15:35         ` [PATCH 3 1/1] " Alexander Shopov
2024-07-14 20:41           ` Alexander Shopov
2024-07-15 15:39             ` Junio C Hamano [this message]
2024-12-28 11:42               ` [PATCH 4 0/1] Localize " Alexander Shopov
2024-12-28 11:42               ` [PATCH 4 1/1] parse-options: localize " Alexander Shopov
2024-12-28 16:55                 ` Junio C Hamano
     [not found]                   ` <CAP6f5MkYL8PgRyf_paCYxL-LE5nUa2U1GQMsu2scLzJPSS=9Ag@mail.gmail.com>
2024-12-30  3:02                     ` Jiang Xin

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