From: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
To: Aditya Garg <gargaditya08@live.com>
Cc: Julian Swagemakers <julian@swagemakers.org>,
git@vger.kernel.org, M Hickford <mirth.hickford@gmail.com>,
sandals@crustytoothpaste.net, Shengyu Qu <wiagn233@outlook.com>,
Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
Erik Huelsmann <ehuels@gmail.com>,
Eric Sunshine <sunshine@sunshineco.com>,
Yao Zi <ziyao@disroot.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] send-email: add --[no-]outlook-id-fix option
Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2025 09:24:22 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <xmqqldrj6imh.fsf@gitster.g> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <PN3PR01MB9597274E541169BDB8DC4297B8802@PN3PR01MB9597.INDPRD01.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM> (Aditya Garg's message of "Tue, 29 Apr 2025 10:52:47 +0000")
Aditya Garg <gargaditya08@live.com> writes:
> +--[no-]outlook-id-fix::
> + Outlook servers discard the Message-ID sent via email and assign a
> + new random Message-ID, thus breaking threads.
> ++
> +--
> +- '--outlook-id-fix' will attempt to retrieve the ID from the server
> + irrespective of the SMTP server being used. Use only if Microsoft is your
> + email provider.
> +- '--no-outlook-id-fix' will disable this tweak irrespective of the SMTP
> + server being used.
> +--
> ++
> +If not specified, the default behaviour will be to enable the tweak only if the
> +SMTP server is 'smtp.office365.com' or 'smtp-mail.outlook.com'.
I found "irrespective of the SMTP server being used" part a bit
confusing, which seemed to contradict with the next sentence to tell
you to use it only against Outlook based servers.
After reading the "If not specified" part, I can sort of guess that
you wanted to "irrespective" mean "even when we are (or are not)
talking to outlook.com", but it is still a confusing description.
Would the following work better, I wonder...?
Microsoft Outlook SMTP servers ..., thus breaking threads.
With `--outlook-id-fix`, "git send-email" uses a mechanism
specific to Outlook servers to learn the Message-ID the
server assigned to fix the threading. Use it only when you
know that the server reports the rewritten Message-ID the
same way as Outlook servers do.
Without this option specified, the fix is done by default
when talking to smtp.office365.com or smtp-mail.outlook.com.
Use `--no-outlook-id-fix` to disable even when talking to
these two servers.
Thanks.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-04-29 16:24 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-04-23 12:19 [PATCH v4 0/3] send-email: add oauth2 support and fix outlook breaking threads Aditya Garg
2025-04-23 12:19 ` [PATCH v4 1/3] send-email: implement SMTP bearer authentication Aditya Garg
2025-04-23 18:04 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-04-23 18:33 ` Aditya Garg
2025-04-24 6:36 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2025-04-24 8:23 ` Aditya Garg
2025-04-23 12:19 ` [PATCH v4 2/3] send-email: retrieve Message-ID from outlook SMTP server Aditya Garg
2025-04-23 18:54 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-04-23 22:52 ` brian m. carlson
2025-04-24 3:42 ` Aditya Garg
2025-04-23 12:19 ` [PATCH v4 3/3] send-email: add option to generate passswords like OAuth2 tokens Aditya Garg
2025-04-23 19:03 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-04-24 3:29 ` Aditya Garg
2025-04-24 12:43 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-04-23 20:50 ` [PATCH v4 0/3] send-email: add oauth2 support and fix outlook breaking threads M Hickford
2025-04-24 3:44 ` Aditya Garg
2025-04-24 7:53 ` [PATCH v5 " Aditya Garg
2025-04-24 7:53 ` [PATCH v5 1/3] send-email: implement SMTP bearer authentication Aditya Garg
2025-04-24 12:12 ` Julian Swagemakers
[not found] ` <CACOoB6jE=DgpYYaudhqTVDRd2SCz++aog7QYwTQs6-MAD8dBuw@mail.gmail.com>
2025-04-24 18:22 ` Aditya Garg
2025-04-24 19:20 ` Erik Huelsmann
2025-04-25 6:19 ` Julian Swagemakers
2025-04-25 6:25 ` Aditya Garg
2025-04-25 9:45 ` Aditya Garg
2025-04-25 10:17 ` Erik Hulsmann
2025-04-24 18:23 ` Aditya Garg
2025-04-24 7:53 ` [PATCH v5 2/3] send-email: retrieve Message-ID from outlook SMTP server Aditya Garg
2025-04-24 13:09 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2025-04-26 18:11 ` Yao Zi
2025-04-27 20:05 ` Aditya Garg
2025-04-28 4:16 ` Yao Zi
2025-04-27 19:44 ` Aditya Garg
2025-04-24 7:53 ` [PATCH v5 3/3] send-email: add option to generate passswords like OAuth2 tokens Aditya Garg
2025-04-24 12:28 ` Julian Swagemakers
2025-04-24 12:53 ` Aditya Garg
2025-04-24 15:20 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-04-24 15:46 ` Aditya Garg
2025-04-24 16:58 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-04-25 10:09 ` [PATCH v6 0/1] send-email: add oauth2 support and fix outlook breaking threads Aditya Garg
2025-04-25 10:09 ` [PATCH v6 1/1] send-email: retrieve Message-ID from outlook SMTP server Aditya Garg
2025-04-25 15:04 ` Aditya Garg
2025-04-25 16:22 ` Erik Huelsmann
2025-04-25 17:08 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-04-25 19:05 ` Erik Huelsmann
2025-04-25 19:08 ` Aditya Garg
2025-04-25 17:23 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-04-25 19:05 ` Aditya Garg
2025-04-26 8:36 ` Aditya Garg
2025-04-26 9:03 ` Eric Sunshine
2025-04-26 17:40 ` Aditya Garg
2025-04-28 16:52 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-04-28 17:52 ` [PATCH] send-email: add --smtp-outlook-id-tweak option Aditya Garg
2025-04-28 17:57 ` [PATCH v2] " Aditya Garg
2025-04-28 20:47 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-04-29 3:44 ` Aditya Garg
2025-04-29 10:52 ` [PATCH v3] send-email: add --[no-]outlook-id-fix option Aditya Garg
2025-04-29 11:00 ` Aditya Garg
2025-04-29 15:57 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-04-29 16:24 ` Junio C Hamano [this message]
2025-04-29 16:26 ` Aditya Garg
2025-04-29 16:37 ` [PATCH v4] " Aditya Garg
2025-04-29 23:08 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-04-30 8:31 ` Aditya Garg
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