From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.8 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6CBEC433DB for ; Wed, 23 Dec 2020 20:59:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92B51224B8 for ; Wed, 23 Dec 2020 20:59:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1728911AbgLWU6r (ORCPT ); Wed, 23 Dec 2020 15:58:47 -0500 Received: from pb-smtp20.pobox.com ([173.228.157.52]:63097 "EHLO pb-smtp20.pobox.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1727040AbgLWU6q (ORCPT ); Wed, 23 Dec 2020 15:58:46 -0500 Received: from pb-smtp20.pobox.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by pb-smtp20.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F68910B60E; Wed, 23 Dec 2020 15:58:06 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from junio@pobox.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=pobox.com; h=from:to:cc :subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version :content-type; s=sasl; bh=ywQ3J1kw+B4oBG/6Wsj2TxIQP+k=; b=u0lwZL p6VaVwj7ACqQ1d25r8WAh12vCnHk7/QUP9yN5NEzxxKlQH8eVEXp6h6C30w5VJuT eSfAJktHh3Y92woZyDprb+SeuSvTT3APcRZl4UNlb6xdL7nGL575mNk4Df+2NQsE WZ2ViJgmqToDxqtcse5/FbSWmVVtXgMEPYfuY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=pobox.com; h=from:to:cc :subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version :content-type; q=dns; s=sasl; b=EgtVqCUt//9lL86ucDUKcasqRxifBkwg DREm7ASc9R183QgM9hK9G7YnF3ZLd1Um30tCzqV+89xyXc9RbAyYC26TYU39pj+a NqWB3BuIXfIfWpQAlGB9EIcNcBsNL0Ym2yENZRRkQEps+ORKPFk2GfA8YU1b2vyw SrU+Xi4qtto= Received: from pb-smtp20.sea.icgroup.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by pb-smtp20.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5736610B60C; Wed, 23 Dec 2020 15:58:06 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from junio@pobox.com) Received: from pobox.com (unknown [35.196.173.25]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pb-smtp20.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7FD3410B60B; Wed, 23 Dec 2020 15:58:03 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from junio@pobox.com) From: Junio C Hamano To: Derrick Stolee Cc: Felipe Contreras , git@vger.kernel.org, git@sfconservancy.org, =?utf-8?B?w4Z2YXIgQXJuZmrDtnLDsA==?= Bjarmason , Christian Couder , Jeff King Subject: Re: [PATCH] CODE_OF_CONDUCT: expect tolerance, not respect References: <20201223061718.102779-1-felipe.contreras@gmail.com> <3d21cc06-415d-860b-7bd2-31047d68bc05@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2020 12:58:01 -0800 In-Reply-To: <3d21cc06-415d-860b-7bd2-31047d68bc05@gmail.com> (Derrick Stolee's message of "Wed, 23 Dec 2020 09:46:56 -0500") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Pobox-Relay-ID: 8C72F39C-4561-11EB-8F0F-E43E2BB96649-77302942!pb-smtp20.pobox.com Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org Derrick Stolee writes: > Specifically, "Being respectful" is different from "Have respect", which > negates your argument for changing this word. We can only enforce what > is evidenced by actual communication, not the internal lives of community > members. > > I could just as easily argue that it is possible to be tolerant without > being respectful. ;-) If anybody wants to change the wording, the argument needs to be made with the upstream, not with us.