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From: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
To: Patrick Steinhardt <ps@pks.im>
Cc: Matthew Hughes <matthewhughes934@gmail.com>,
	 Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget <gitgitgadget@gmail.com>,
	 git@vger.kernel.org, atthewhughes934@gmail.com,
	 johannes.schindelin@gmx.de,  Derrick Stolee <stolee@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 3/5] scalar: remove stale config values
Date: Sun, 07 Dec 2025 09:34:05 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <xmqqms3vnn9e.fsf@gitster.g> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aS88bnmZXMZCV5oS@pks.im> (Patrick Steinhardt's message of "Tue, 2 Dec 2025 20:22:22 +0100")

Patrick Steinhardt <ps@pks.im> writes:

> The logic around this was introduced in 2a9dedef2e (index: make
> index.threads=true enable ieot and eoie, 2018-11-19), and the ultimate
> reason for it seems to be backwards compatibility:
>
>     index.threads and index.recordOffsetTable unspecified: do not write
>     the offset table yet (to avoid alarming the user with "ignoring IEOT
>     extension" messages when an older version of Git accesses the
>     repository) but do make use of multiple threads to read the index if
>     the supporting offset table is present.
>
> Older versions of Git complained when they see unknown extensions, and
> we didn't want to expose users to such warnings.

Not "Older versions".

Any version of Git should complain mandatory index extension that it
does not understand.  And any version of Git, even today's Git,
gives a note when it ignores an optional index extension it does not
understand.

> That makes me wonder
> whether it's time now to revisit that decision -- it's been 7 years
> since then, I guess that many clients nowadays would understand the
> extension. 

I do not think 7 years matters.  The only reason you might see the
"ignoring" message is after using a newer version of Git that is
aware of that index extension, and then reverting back to an older
version.  As the index file is a purely local matter, it is not very
likely situation to begin with, and when it happens, the user should
be made aware of it.  Not understanding an optional index extension
is not a breaking sin; but being in such a situation, i.e., the user
is using older version of Git than they once used to use, is a note
worthy vent.

So yes, even this logic was introduced last week, if the only reason
is to avoid showing the note, that design decision should be
revisited.

> The only (documented) downside should thus not be that important
> anymore, but the upside is that reading the index would be faster if we
> default-enable writing the extension.
>
> Patrick

  reply	other threads:[~2025-12-07  0:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-11-26 22:18 [PATCH 0/5] Audit and document Scalar config Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2025-11-26 22:18 ` [PATCH 1/5] scalar: annotate config file with "set by scalar" Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2025-11-26 23:55   ` Junio C Hamano
2025-12-01  8:55     ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-11-26 22:18 ` [PATCH 2/5] scalar: use index.skipHash=true for performance Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2025-11-26 23:57   ` Junio C Hamano
2025-11-30 19:55     ` Derrick Stolee
2025-11-26 22:18 ` [PATCH 3/5] scalar: remove stale config values Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2025-11-27  0:00   ` Junio C Hamano
2025-11-26 22:18 ` [PATCH 4/5] scalar: alphabetize and simplify config Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2025-12-01  8:55   ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-12-01 12:35     ` Derrick Stolee
2025-11-26 22:18 ` [PATCH 5/5] scalar: document config settings Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2025-11-27  0:09   ` Junio C Hamano
2025-11-30 19:56     ` Derrick Stolee
2025-12-01  8:55   ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-12-01 12:40     ` Derrick Stolee
2025-12-01 14:04 ` [PATCH 0/5] Audit and document Scalar config Johannes Schindelin
2025-12-01 16:50 ` [PATCH v2 " Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2025-12-01 16:50   ` [PATCH v2 1/5] scalar: annotate config file with "set by scalar" Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2025-12-02  7:53     ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-12-01 16:50   ` [PATCH v2 2/5] scalar: use index.skipHash=true for performance Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2025-12-01 16:50   ` [PATCH v2 3/5] scalar: remove stale config values Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2025-12-01 17:46     ` Matthew Hughes
2025-12-02  7:53       ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-12-02 19:04         ` Matthew Hughes
2025-12-02 19:22           ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-12-07  0:34             ` Junio C Hamano [this message]
2025-12-08  6:58               ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-12-12 13:57       ` Derrick Stolee
2025-12-01 16:50   ` [PATCH v2 4/5] scalar: alphabetize and simplify config Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2025-12-01 16:50   ` [PATCH v2 5/5] scalar: document config settings Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2025-12-01 17:58     ` Matthew Hughes
2025-12-02  7:53       ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-12-11 14:20     ` Henrique Ferreiro
2025-12-12 14:06       ` Derrick Stolee
2025-12-15 12:14         ` Henrique Ferreiro
2025-12-02  2:05   ` [PATCH v2 0/5] Audit and document Scalar config Junio C Hamano
2025-12-12 15:15   ` [PATCH v3 " Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2025-12-12 15:15     ` [PATCH v3 1/5] scalar: annotate config file with "set by scalar" Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2025-12-12 15:15     ` [PATCH v3 2/5] scalar: use index.skipHash=true for performance Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2025-12-12 15:15     ` [PATCH v3 3/5] scalar: remove stale config values Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2025-12-12 15:15     ` [PATCH v3 4/5] scalar: alphabetize and simplify config Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2025-12-12 15:15     ` [PATCH v3 5/5] scalar: document config settings Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2025-12-15 12:33       ` Henrique Ferreiro
2025-12-12 23:49     ` [PATCH v3 0/5] Audit and document Scalar config Junio C Hamano
2025-12-15 14:33       ` Derrick Stolee
2025-12-16  0:39         ` Junio C Hamano

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