From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pb-smtp21.pobox.com (pb-smtp21.pobox.com [173.228.157.53]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B652815AADE for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2024 16:10:59 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=173.228.157.53 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1721837461; cv=none; b=NnF0b0AEf3cfkxy2wfurn7xQH8G2eKHUXz4dttprJ9hJCqu72xTSY2E72MsHnrSO/I9PngsGnWSb4wd9/G6OqO0QjLENGqAUDQXiYa+FHg1or9QNkWhPI+F38lNvggGPL56BTFR3Lo+mner8DB4rQQPT9BCkupkUrdD63nhvbTg= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1721837461; c=relaxed/simple; bh=pcPTl/rj6QQ05Sj40Hvk9m2QtwoyNDyTjW2F0k153dc=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:Message-ID: MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=DahUpt537A2yU+fI+h1A1GDpPxaqr3kKqGq4S/cAiBNlbtMQtWOoUvDogaeQ8/Ro5wBgzGm+5a3AQPfPInA/j+Uyar2divUHu9jiIzdwTNjMla5myeWEFvRFcnEYkH4dVtvRGH+Au9kBrFS//YbYCnqRgGV01b4fdSZ2jOBPLWk= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=none dis=none) header.from=pobox.com; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=pobox.com; dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=pobox.com header.i=@pobox.com header.b=hxWU9x38; arc=none smtp.client-ip=173.228.157.53 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=none dis=none) header.from=pobox.com Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=pobox.com Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=pobox.com header.i=@pobox.com header.b="hxWU9x38" Received: from pb-smtp21.pobox.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by pb-smtp21.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EE941CF3A; Wed, 24 Jul 2024 12:10:59 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from junio@pobox.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed; d=pobox.com; h=from:to:cc :subject:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type; s=sasl; bh=pcPTl/rj6QQ05Sj40Hvk9m2QtwoyNDyTjW2F0k 153dc=; b=hxWU9x38hPN43jzyXwwbZ8XLttWnFQWuRQuacRgqF91tfUnpcvO/Do 4mGI4c1p8ASeNh6VB6MDnC2LeJO6NxuuobX6aPWsTRvD3w2on0TICZabRgS4bYHE ColMyWxWvPT4I0RgQMUvkzbdbvY6A/m24baslouE6R53WUrMIhvtA= Received: from pb-smtp21.sea.icgroup.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by pb-smtp21.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48D461CF39; Wed, 24 Jul 2024 12:10:59 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from junio@pobox.com) Received: from pobox.com (unknown [34.125.139.61]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pb-smtp21.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C5BF81CEF1; Wed, 24 Jul 2024 12:10:55 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from junio@pobox.com) From: Junio C Hamano To: Patrick Steinhardt Cc: Johannes Schindelin , git@vger.kernel.org, Emily Shaffer Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3] ci: update Perforce version to r23.2 In-Reply-To: (Patrick Steinhardt's message of "Wed, 24 Jul 2024 11:01:32 +0200") References: Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2024 09:10:54 -0700 Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Pobox-Relay-ID: 4EA82EBE-49D7-11EF-9BF6-9625FCCAB05B-77302942!pb-smtp21.pobox.com Patrick Steinhardt writes: > I don't think that is a good idea. If we stop installing p4, the result > is that _nobody_ will ever run the tests at all. The tests, and by > extension git-p4 itself, would start to bitrot and we wouldn't notice > any kind of regressions at all anymore. > > If we want to consider going down that route, I'd rather say we should > do it all or nothing: either we rip out git-p4 and the tests, or we > leave both of them in. I couldn't care less about git-p4 itself, so I > would not mind ripping it out altogether. But there may be users of this > script out there that do care, so I don't want to make that decision > unilaterally. Yup, I was actually interpreting Dscho's message as advocating the removal of "git p4". Such a move would certainly force people who do care about it to come out. It is up to them to volunteer to help maintaining "git p4". This may be a good example to discuss "support policy" not on niche platforms but on niche features (Emily Cc'ed). Thanks.