From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from fout-b2-smtp.messagingengine.com (fout-b2-smtp.messagingengine.com [202.12.124.145]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6A9F72951A6 for ; Wed, 14 May 2025 20:05:39 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=202.12.124.145 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1747253142; cv=none; b=nj4rAzMjdlX5fsDuQ6bttVHcI/IM6MsMc/PBnr9oYmykFDn+DaYkXmUF/GDnMncSAaDQZJgpH2Y8WDYs1nLgJQeaOiU6eS9AfueOa/zRHPDBznHwBVRHEti1q2rmc4TlJG5kdaxpJk10gu3LTRE2hlBTRizy8HovO+sDtEUzSWQ= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1747253142; c=relaxed/simple; bh=ugNb+HEOL/JVaPcw6BOLJNBbGuRnD5ILZDKUVsS4nFY=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:Message-ID: MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ZKhIFTFlqubi2foLQLDnFR/A4XS5ZIwKB8DS1KaTO491W5+Chi7xg0JVTRA40HQQEWZ95lXTIuThqugLn0aGNC5PunAzb89DApOpeovOqmgIPfZIk0B9mkQXgxDQW6EFCAEEbq8GXDuk1Gm+chT0gCQYCdhVC7vpUynEzgTSOj4= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=none dis=none) header.from=pobox.com; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=pobox.com; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=pobox.com header.i=@pobox.com header.b=R5PYr8iG; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=messagingengine.com header.i=@messagingengine.com header.b=HQn0tqvu; arc=none smtp.client-ip=202.12.124.145 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=none dis=none) header.from=pobox.com Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=pobox.com Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=pobox.com header.i=@pobox.com header.b="R5PYr8iG"; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=messagingengine.com header.i=@messagingengine.com header.b="HQn0tqvu" Received: from phl-compute-02.internal (phl-compute-02.phl.internal [10.202.2.42]) by mailfout.stl.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BDA911400B7; Wed, 14 May 2025 16:05:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phl-frontend-01 ([10.202.2.160]) by phl-compute-02.internal (MEProxy); Wed, 14 May 2025 16:05:38 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=pobox.com; h=cc :cc:content-type:content-type:date:date:from:from:in-reply-to :in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references:reply-to:subject :subject:to:to; s=fm2; t=1747253138; x=1747339538; bh=ugNb+HEOL/ JVaPcw6BOLJNBbGuRnD5ILZDKUVsS4nFY=; b=R5PYr8iGTb6JkUqmT1XAJddBuw WRD04XgpBUqRgXk08M617s/o1O1QVuebu6+g2yQb5vz9QpfjvcQvej7ImyEhx88t j9c2wv7cwPKUq9QI9OB31TbhBy60uSAJpKI2tCNevsVyT7a4OAWtVfPHI1Lnp8nL Pae7zFImBzZkbM2F5AuwEk3CjrLA1clKZNHHqTQUuaFsLyX5v27BMr9qu1d7/nik Rglzd5OcvVqdhJbGZPmCnWcZzP7bp6pGP0ZxtKgv2GHSGeKCsk7qoNIiO4aVkb7U x9kVnRkidu08swT/nX5jELPMx/r0KHXDJiGg5Tm+OmKfc5IJGoMBvdRyKamQ== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:cc:content-type:content-type:date:date :feedback-id:feedback-id:from:from:in-reply-to:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:reply-to:subject:subject:to :to:x-me-proxy:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm3; t= 1747253138; x=1747339538; bh=ugNb+HEOL/JVaPcw6BOLJNBbGuRnD5ILZDK UVsS4nFY=; b=HQn0tqvu09X0h4hqpBc19ybC2jIg4y1cTJxLY9Vqu9Rf2RQrXkn 29IOdpYKgvbprGfRfjZKAus54httZdGel2ljdqZdOelB+iJD3eo0mzk4R8cH7oHL +55itbAqdfsdLzjvNllTBco4sCol2vdmrUSrzbMJoIyVlnOUOlGv+qaCOE/nECOD VHzmvOJYD16IYDbggDdQPJUPhhz6OkfNtMkyU4WUeU2/j1QXIsDQUS9eAJSGqBS6 Q4cqhh0KILwC1VTaQ7sAGpJNchBfd9T6NgKmJBA9uCxUjFWF6WFWBFTc0mAGfYRB oOo/ENh0apbwFiab6/EZHis0beSkSYZ928g== X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Received: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgeefvddrtddtgdeftdejledtucetufdoteggodetrf dotffvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuhfgrshhtofgrihhlpdggtfgfnhhsuhgsshgtrhhisggv pdfurfetoffkrfgpnffqhgenuceurghilhhouhhtmecufedttdenucesvcftvggtihhpih gvnhhtshculddquddttddmnecujfgurhephffvvefujghffffkfgggtgesthdtredttder tdenucfhrhhomheplfhunhhiohcuvecujfgrmhgrnhhouceoghhithhsthgvrhesphhosg hogidrtghomheqnecuggftrfgrthhtvghrnhepfeevteetjeehueegffelvdetieevffeu feejleeuffetiefggfeftdfhfeeigeeinecuvehluhhsthgvrhfuihiivgeptdenucfrrg hrrghmpehmrghilhhfrhhomhepghhithhsthgvrhesphhosghogidrtghomhdpnhgspghr tghpthhtohepjedpmhhouggvpehsmhhtphhouhhtpdhrtghpthhtohepphgvfhhfsehpvg hffhdrnhgvthdprhgtphhtthhopehsrghnuggrlhhssegtrhhushhthihtohhothhhphgr shhtvgdrnhgvthdprhgtphhtthhopehpshesphhkshdrihhmpdhrtghpthhtohepjhhohh grnhhnvghsrdhstghhihhnuggvlhhinhesghhmgidruggvpdhrtghpthhtoheprghrnhho uhgurdgsvghrvghnughsvghnsehsohhprhgrshhtvghrihgrrdgtohhmpdhrtghpthhtoh epghhithesvhhgvghrrdhkvghrnhgvlhdrohhrghdprhgtphhtthhopehgihhtshhtvghr sehpohgsohigrdgtohhm X-ME-Proxy: Feedback-ID: if26b431b:Fastmail Received: by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA; Wed, 14 May 2025 16:05:37 -0400 (EDT) From: Junio C Hamano To: Jeff King Cc: "brian m. carlson" , Patrick Steinhardt , Johannes Schindelin , BERENDSEN Arnoud , "git@vger.kernel.org" Subject: Re: Cleaning up "contrib/" In-Reply-To: <20250514181938.GC2196784@coredump.intra.peff.net> (Jeff King's message of "Wed, 14 May 2025 14:19:38 -0400") References: <3f3a0ee6-49a5-8013-7fe0-65c9ba8bfc3a@gmx.de> <20250512135017.GC1191957@coredump.intra.peff.net> <20250514181938.GC2196784@coredump.intra.peff.net> Date: Wed, 14 May 2025 13:05:36 -0700 Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Jeff King writes: > Right, I know people use them. What I meant was that if we wanted to > spin them to out-of-tree projects, we'd need somebody to volunteer to be > the maintainer of those projects. If they stay in-tree we can be a bit > looser (your "I don't want to be _the_ maintainer, but I can > contribute"). > > It does put more load on Junio, though. E.g., if there is a security > problem the project has to deal with embargoed release engineering, > whereas a separate project would do its own releases. Well, but it certainly is not more than what I currently need to do; it does not make any difference whether it is housed in the contrib/ directory or in the tools/ directory. > Last time wincred had a security hole (in 2020), the phrase "unsafe and > unmaintained" was thrown about on the security list, but we ultimately > fixed at least the immediate issue. But I find its general matching > strategy to be not very confidence-inspiring. > > Dscho (or anybody else familiar with Windows) may want to comment > further. Thanks for a redirect.