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From: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
To: Leon Michalak <leonmichalak6@gmail.com>
Cc: Phillip Wood <phillip.wood123@gmail.com>,
	 Leon Michalak via GitGitGadget <gitgitgadget@gmail.com>,
	 git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3] add-patch: add diff.context command line overrides
Date: Wed, 07 May 2025 13:25:56 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <xmqqo6w4b223.fsf@gitster.g> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAP9jKjGEDY78MSrZVS2FxAoikPZpGazqem2XHDVmXqMjcox6yg@mail.gmail.com> (Leon Michalak's message of "Wed, 7 May 2025 19:28:54 +0100")

Leon Michalak <leonmichalak6@gmail.com> writes:

> I think I may be misunderstanding, so I'll elaborate on what I
> personally intended my documentation to mean.
>
> When I put in the documentation "implies --interactive/--patch" it
> reads to me as "this assumes you are also using either --interactive
> or --patch and that if you don't specify one or the other it will do
> nothing or possibly error (which is what I chose in the end, based on
> the initial discussion in a separate thread)". I didn't think it would
> read as "you must have both settings" or "if you don't specify these
> the command will assume it as if you had and effectively act as if you
> had".
>
> I'm not sure if the wording was confusing or it generally has
> different meanings to others so perhaps that might clarify at least
> what I intended :)

We use "imply" to mean quite a different thing from what you said in
the above explanation, and that is where my reaction came from.

We say "option A implies option B" only when the command behaves as
if the user gave option B when only option A is given (and without
giving B).  For example, "git commit --help" has

        `--short`::
                When doing a dry-run, give the output in the short-format. See
                linkgit:git-status[1] for details. Implies `--dry-run`.

The `--short` option does not make any sense when you are actually
creating a commit; if you say "git commit --short", the command
behaves as if you said "git commit --dry-run --short".

If something works only under certain condition, it seems we tend to
say "this only works when/with ...", so in this case, we would have
said "The -U<n> option is only effective for --interactive or --patch
mode of this command" to express what you meant to convey, I think.

Thanks.


  reply	other threads:[~2025-05-07 20:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 77+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-05-05  9:18 [PATCH 0/3] Better support for customising context lines in --patch commands Leon Michalak via GitGitGadget
2025-05-05  9:18 ` [PATCH 1/3] add-patch: respect diff.context configuration Leon Michalak via GitGitGadget
2025-05-05 20:29   ` Eric Sunshine
2025-05-06  8:55   ` Phillip Wood
2025-05-06 17:29   ` Junio C Hamano
2025-05-05  9:18 ` [PATCH 2/3] add-patch: add diff.context command line overrides Leon Michalak via GitGitGadget
2025-05-05  9:49   ` Kristoffer Haugsbakk
     [not found]     ` <CAP9jKjHj7WP91aKA9SE94zYj+naBGLUs99mF3G4BhTGcGjFDUQ@mail.gmail.com>
2025-05-05 10:11       ` Leon Michalak
2025-05-07  9:51   ` Phillip Wood
2025-05-07 18:07     ` Junio C Hamano
2025-05-07 18:28       ` Leon Michalak
2025-05-07 20:25         ` Junio C Hamano [this message]
2025-05-05  9:18 ` [PATCH 3/3] add-interactive: add new "context" subcommand Leon Michalak via GitGitGadget
2025-05-06  0:02   ` Eric Sunshine
2025-05-06  7:20     ` Leon Michalak
2025-05-06  8:28       ` Christian Couder
2025-05-06 17:07         ` Leon Michalak
2025-05-06 16:37     ` Junio C Hamano
2025-05-06 17:25       ` Leon Michalak
2025-05-07 13:30       ` Phillip Wood
2025-05-07 19:10         ` Junio C Hamano
2025-05-10 13:46 ` [PATCH v2 0/4] Better support for customising context lines in --patch commands Leon Michalak via GitGitGadget
2025-05-10 13:46   ` [PATCH v2 1/4] test: refactor to use "test_grep" Leon Michalak via GitGitGadget
2025-05-12 13:42     ` Junio C Hamano
2025-05-12 16:58       ` Leon Michalak
2025-05-10 13:46   ` [PATCH v2 2/4] test: refactor to use "test_config" Leon Michalak via GitGitGadget
2025-05-10 13:46   ` [PATCH v2 3/4] add-patch: respect diff.context configuration Leon Michalak via GitGitGadget
2025-05-13 13:52     ` Phillip Wood
2025-05-13 15:47       ` Junio C Hamano
2025-05-14 15:13         ` Phillip Wood
2025-05-15 12:58           ` Junio C Hamano
2025-05-10 13:46   ` [PATCH v2 4/4] add-patch: add diff.context command line overrides Leon Michalak via GitGitGadget
2025-05-12 16:45     ` Junio C Hamano
2025-05-12 17:03       ` Leon Michalak
2025-05-13 13:52     ` Phillip Wood
2025-05-13 14:39       ` Phillip Wood
2025-05-13 15:05         ` Leon Michalak
2025-05-14 15:13           ` phillip.wood123
2025-06-28 16:34   ` [PATCH v3 0/4] Better support for customising context lines in --patch commands Leon Michalak via GitGitGadget
2025-06-28 16:34     ` [PATCH v3 1/4] test: use "test_grep" Leon Michalak via GitGitGadget
2025-06-30 16:23       ` Junio C Hamano
2025-06-28 16:34     ` [PATCH v3 2/4] test: use "test_config" Leon Michalak via GitGitGadget
2025-06-30 16:35       ` Junio C Hamano
2025-06-28 16:34     ` [PATCH v3 3/4] add-patch: respect diff.context configuration Leon Michalak via GitGitGadget
2025-06-30 16:55       ` Junio C Hamano
2025-07-01 10:00       ` Phillip Wood
2025-06-28 16:34     ` [PATCH v3 4/4] add-patch: add diff.context command line overrides Leon Michalak via GitGitGadget
2025-06-30 17:03       ` Junio C Hamano
2025-07-01  9:59         ` Phillip Wood
2025-07-01 15:54           ` Junio C Hamano
2025-07-02 14:07             ` Phillip Wood
2025-07-02 18:28               ` Junio C Hamano
2025-07-01  9:59       ` Phillip Wood
2025-06-30 16:16     ` [PATCH v3 0/4] Better support for customising context lines in --patch commands Junio C Hamano
2025-07-09  0:09     ` Junio C Hamano
2025-07-09  7:57       ` Leon Michalak
2025-07-09 15:32         ` Junio C Hamano
2025-07-19 12:28     ` [PATCH v4 " Leon Michalak via GitGitGadget
2025-07-19 12:28       ` [PATCH v4 1/4] t: use test_grep in t3701 and t4055 Leon Michalak via GitGitGadget
2025-07-19 12:28       ` [PATCH v4 2/4] t: use test_config in t4055 Leon Michalak via GitGitGadget
2025-07-19 12:28       ` [PATCH v4 3/4] add-patch: respect diff.context configuration Leon Michalak via GitGitGadget
2025-07-19 12:28       ` [PATCH v4 4/4] add-patch: add diff.context command line overrides Leon Michalak via GitGitGadget
2025-07-22 16:01         ` Phillip Wood
2025-07-22 18:02           ` Leon Michalak
2025-07-22 18:05             ` Leon Michalak
2025-07-23  9:41             ` Phillip Wood
2025-07-21 16:50       ` [PATCH v4 0/4] Better support for customising context lines in --patch commands Junio C Hamano
2025-07-22 16:05         ` Phillip Wood
2025-07-22 17:20           ` Junio C Hamano
2025-07-29  7:01       ` [PATCH v5 " Leon Michalak via GitGitGadget
2025-07-29  7:01         ` [PATCH v5 1/4] t: use test_grep in t3701 and t4055 Leon Michalak via GitGitGadget
2025-07-29  7:01         ` [PATCH v5 2/4] t: use test_config in t4055 Leon Michalak via GitGitGadget
2025-07-29  7:01         ` [PATCH v5 3/4] add-patch: respect diff.context configuration Leon Michalak via GitGitGadget
2025-07-29  7:01         ` [PATCH v5 4/4] add-patch: add diff.context command line overrides Leon Michalak via GitGitGadget
2025-07-29 15:21         ` [PATCH v5 0/4] Better support for customising context lines in --patch commands Phillip Wood
2025-07-29 15:55           ` Junio C Hamano
2025-07-29 16:18             ` Leon Michalak

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