From: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
To: Peijian Ju <eric.peijian@gmail.com>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org, calvinwan@google.com,
jonathantanmy@google.com, chriscool@tuxfamily.org,
karthik.188@gmail.com, toon@iotcl.com, jltobler@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 0/6] cat-file: add remote-object-info to batch-command
Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2024 09:16:50 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <xmqqplmshybx.fsf@gitster.g> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAN2LT1Cmsw3RB1kbRBvoeLs8WaQeZWqrG96EQfMkMe_jdKaO4g@mail.gmail.com> (Peijian Ju's message of "Mon, 18 Nov 2024 11:28:23 -0500")
Peijian Ju <eric.peijian@gmail.com> writes:
> While the “fetch and locally inspect” approach is an option, it would
> undermines the purpose of the feature, as highlighted by Christian’s
> partial clone and sparse checkout example. This feature is
> specifically designed to provide information without requiring the
> objects to be fetched, making such an alternative counterproductive.
Thanks, then wouldn't it make more sense to say, because support for
new protocol capabilities on the server side would have to happen at
a lot fewer places than the clients, we only work when the necessary
protocol extension support is available, without any "fetch and
locally inspect" fallback?
The above is after reading your "cons" here of the fallback.
> Cons:
> - Implementing a quarantine mechanism seems like a separate feature.
> This patch series already introduces a number of changes, and
> including the quarantine mechanism might make it too extensive.
Not an excuse to introduce incomplete changes that are not
sufficient to be useful, though.
> - Based on Mr. Patrick Steinhardt’s comment at [1], since
> remote-object-info operates only on protocol v2, adding a quarantine
> mechanism may lead to differing client-side behavior depending on the
> protocol, which could complicate the feature’s consistency.
Not doing quarantine would give even _more_ different client-side
behaviour, though. When talking with a server with v2, you'll not
see a cruft object left locally, but with older servers, you'll see
crufts left behind. After a failed remote-object-info call, you can
do an object-info to figure out what you needed to learn about the
object, but only after the failed remote-object-info was against an
older server.
So, I do not see it as a reason against putting temporary objects
into quarantine.
Not that I consider it important to give the same client-side
behaviour when talking with older and newer servers, though. It is
natural for a new feature to be available only with versions of Git
that supports the feature, after all.
And if we throw that away as a goal, it starts to make more sense
not to add "fetch and locally inspect" anywhere.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-11-19 0:16 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 174+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-06-28 19:04 [PATCH 0/6] cat-file: add remote-object-info to batch-command Eric Ju
2024-06-28 19:04 ` [PATCH 1/6] fetch-pack: refactor packet writing Eric Ju
2024-07-04 16:59 ` Karthik Nayak
2024-07-08 15:17 ` Peijian Ju
2024-07-10 9:39 ` Karthik Nayak
2024-07-15 16:40 ` Peijian Ju
2024-06-28 19:04 ` [PATCH 2/6] fetch-pack: move fetch initialization Eric Ju
2024-06-28 19:05 ` [PATCH 3/6] serve: advertise object-info feature Eric Ju
2024-06-28 19:05 ` [PATCH 4/6] transport: add client support for object-info Eric Ju
2024-07-09 7:15 ` Toon claes
2024-07-09 16:37 ` Junio C Hamano
2024-07-13 2:32 ` Peijian Ju
2024-07-13 2:30 ` Peijian Ju
2024-07-10 10:13 ` Karthik Nayak
2024-07-16 2:39 ` Peijian Ju
2024-06-28 19:05 ` [PATCH 5/6] cat-file: add declaration of variable i inside its for loop Eric Ju
2024-07-10 10:16 ` Karthik Nayak
2024-07-16 2:59 ` Peijian Ju
2024-06-28 19:05 ` [PATCH 6/6] cat-file: add remote-object-info to batch-command Eric Ju
2024-07-09 1:50 ` Justin Tobler
2024-07-12 17:41 ` Peijian Ju
2024-07-09 7:16 ` Toon claes
2024-07-13 2:35 ` Peijian Ju
2024-07-10 12:08 ` Karthik Nayak
2024-07-17 2:38 ` Peijian Ju
2024-07-20 3:43 ` [PATCH v2 0/6] " Eric Ju
2024-07-20 3:43 ` [PATCH v2 1/6] fetch-pack: refactor packet writing Eric Ju
2024-09-24 11:45 ` Christian Couder
2024-09-25 20:42 ` Peijian Ju
2024-07-20 3:43 ` [PATCH v2 2/6] fetch-pack: move fetch initialization Eric Ju
2024-07-20 3:43 ` [PATCH v2 3/6] serve: advertise object-info feature Eric Ju
2024-07-20 3:43 ` [PATCH v2 4/6] transport: add client support for object-info Eric Ju
2024-09-24 11:45 ` Christian Couder
2024-09-24 17:29 ` Junio C Hamano
2024-09-25 18:29 ` Peijian Ju
2024-07-20 3:43 ` [PATCH v2 5/6] cat-file: add declaration of variable i inside its for loop Eric Ju
2024-07-20 3:43 ` [PATCH v2 6/6] cat-file: add remote-object-info to batch-command Eric Ju
2024-09-11 13:11 ` Toon Claes
2024-09-25 18:18 ` Peijian Ju
2024-09-24 12:13 ` Christian Couder
2024-09-25 18:12 ` Peijian Ju
2024-08-22 21:24 ` [PATCH 0/6] " Peijian Ju
2024-09-26 1:38 ` [PATCH v3 " Eric Ju
2024-09-26 1:38 ` [PATCH v3 1/6] fetch-pack: refactor packet writing Eric Ju
2024-09-26 1:38 ` [PATCH v3 2/6] fetch-pack: move fetch initialization Eric Ju
2024-09-26 1:38 ` [PATCH v3 3/6] serve: advertise object-info feature Eric Ju
2024-09-26 1:38 ` [PATCH v3 4/6] transport: add client support for object-info Eric Ju
2024-10-23 9:48 ` Christian Couder
2024-10-24 20:23 ` Peijian Ju
2024-09-26 1:38 ` [PATCH v3 5/6] cat-file: add declaration of variable i inside its for loop Eric Ju
2024-09-26 1:38 ` [PATCH v3 6/6] cat-file: add remote-object-info to batch-command Eric Ju
2024-10-23 9:49 ` Christian Couder
2024-10-23 20:25 ` Taylor Blau
2024-10-24 20:28 ` Peijian Ju
2024-10-24 20:28 ` Peijian Ju
2024-10-24 20:53 ` [PATCH v4 0/6] " Eric Ju
2024-10-24 20:53 ` [PATCH v4 1/6] fetch-pack: refactor packet writing Eric Ju
2024-10-25 9:52 ` karthik nayak
2024-10-25 16:06 ` Peijian Ju
2024-10-24 20:53 ` [PATCH v4 2/6] fetch-pack: move fetch initialization Eric Ju
2024-10-24 20:53 ` [PATCH v4 3/6] serve: advertise object-info feature Eric Ju
2024-10-24 20:53 ` [PATCH v4 4/6] transport: add client support for object-info Eric Ju
2024-10-25 10:12 ` karthik nayak
2024-10-28 5:39 ` Peijian Ju
2024-10-24 20:53 ` [PATCH v4 5/6] cat-file: add declaration of variable i inside its for loop Eric Ju
2024-10-24 20:53 ` [PATCH v4 6/6] cat-file: add remote-object-info to batch-command Eric Ju
2024-10-25 10:53 ` karthik nayak
2024-10-25 13:55 ` Christian Couder
2024-10-25 20:56 ` [PATCH v4 0/6] " Taylor Blau
2024-10-27 3:54 ` Peijian Ju
2024-10-28 0:01 ` Taylor Blau
2024-10-28 20:34 ` [PATCH v5 " Eric Ju
2024-10-28 20:34 ` [PATCH v5 1/6] fetch-pack: refactor packet writing Eric Ju
2024-11-05 17:44 ` Christian Couder
2024-11-06 1:06 ` Junio C Hamano
2024-11-06 18:00 ` Peijian Ju
2024-11-06 19:50 ` Peijian Ju
2024-10-28 20:34 ` [PATCH v5 2/6] fetch-pack: move fetch initialization Eric Ju
2024-10-28 20:34 ` [PATCH v5 3/6] serve: advertise object-info feature Eric Ju
2024-10-28 20:34 ` [PATCH v5 4/6] transport: add client support for object-info Eric Ju
2024-10-28 20:34 ` [PATCH v5 5/6] cat-file: add declaration of variable i inside its for loop Eric Ju
2024-10-28 20:34 ` [PATCH v5 6/6] cat-file: add remote-object-info to batch-command Eric Ju
2024-11-08 16:24 ` [PATCH v6 0/6] " Eric Ju
2024-11-08 16:24 ` [PATCH v6 1/6] cat-file: add declaration of variable i inside its for loop Eric Ju
2024-11-08 16:24 ` [PATCH v6 2/6] fetch-pack: refactor packet writing Eric Ju
2024-11-08 16:24 ` [PATCH v6 3/6] fetch-pack: move fetch initialization Eric Ju
2024-11-08 16:24 ` [PATCH v6 4/6] serve: advertise object-info feature Eric Ju
2024-11-08 16:24 ` [PATCH v6 5/6] transport: add client support for object-info Eric Ju
2024-11-08 16:24 ` [PATCH v6 6/6] cat-file: add remote-object-info to batch-command Eric Ju
2024-11-11 4:38 ` [PATCH v6 0/6] " Junio C Hamano
2024-11-18 16:28 ` Peijian Ju
2024-11-19 0:16 ` Junio C Hamano [this message]
2024-11-19 6:31 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-11-19 6:48 ` Junio C Hamano
2024-11-19 16:35 ` Peijian Ju
2024-11-20 1:19 ` Junio C Hamano
2024-11-25 5:36 ` [PATCH v7 " Eric Ju
2024-11-25 5:36 ` [PATCH v7 1/6] cat-file: add declaration of variable i inside its for loop Eric Ju
2024-11-25 9:51 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-12-03 19:26 ` Peijian Ju
2024-11-25 5:36 ` [PATCH v7 2/6] fetch-pack: refactor packet writing Eric Ju
2024-11-25 9:51 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-12-03 19:09 ` Peijian Ju
2024-11-25 5:36 ` [PATCH v7 3/6] fetch-pack: move fetch initialization Eric Ju
2024-11-25 5:36 ` [PATCH v7 4/6] serve: advertise object-info feature Eric Ju
2024-11-25 5:36 ` [PATCH v7 5/6] transport: add client support for object-info Eric Ju
2024-11-25 9:51 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-12-03 3:15 ` Peijian Ju
2024-11-25 5:36 ` [PATCH v7 6/6] cat-file: add remote-object-info to batch-command Eric Ju
2024-11-25 9:51 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-12-03 19:23 ` Peijian Ju
2024-12-05 9:50 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-12-05 10:34 ` Christian Couder
2024-12-23 23:25 ` [PATCH v8 0/6] " Eric Ju
2024-12-23 23:25 ` [PATCH v8 1/6] cat-file: add declaration of variable i inside its for loop Eric Ju
2024-12-23 23:25 ` [PATCH v8 2/6] fetch-pack: refactor packet writing Eric Ju
2024-12-23 23:25 ` [PATCH v8 3/6] fetch-pack: move fetch initialization Eric Ju
2024-12-23 23:25 ` [PATCH v8 4/6] serve: advertise object-info feature Eric Ju
2024-12-23 23:25 ` [PATCH v8 5/6] transport: add client support for object-info Eric Ju
2025-01-07 18:31 ` Calvin Wan
2025-01-07 18:53 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-01-08 15:55 ` Peijian Ju
2024-12-23 23:25 ` [PATCH v8 6/6] cat-file: add remote-object-info to batch-command Eric Ju
2025-01-07 21:29 ` Calvin Wan
2024-12-26 21:56 ` [PATCH v8 0/6] " Junio C Hamano
2024-12-30 23:25 ` Peijian Ju
2025-01-08 18:37 ` [PATCH v9 0/8] cat-file: " Eric Ju
2025-01-08 18:37 ` [PATCH v9 1/8] git-compat-util: add strtoul_ul() with error handling Eric Ju
2025-01-10 11:33 ` Christian Couder
2025-01-14 1:39 ` Peijian Ju
2025-01-08 18:37 ` [PATCH v9 2/8] cat-file: add declaration of variable i inside its for loop Eric Ju
2025-01-10 11:39 ` Christian Couder
2025-01-14 1:36 ` Peijian Ju
2025-01-08 18:37 ` [PATCH v9 3/8] cat-file: split test utility functions into a separate library file Eric Ju
2025-01-10 14:26 ` Christian Couder
2025-01-14 1:33 ` Peijian Ju
2025-01-08 18:37 ` [PATCH v9 4/8] fetch-pack: refactor packet writing Eric Ju
2025-01-08 18:37 ` [PATCH v9 5/8] fetch-pack: move fetch initialization Eric Ju
2025-01-08 18:37 ` [PATCH v9 6/8] serve: advertise object-info feature Eric Ju
2025-01-08 18:37 ` [PATCH v9 7/8] transport: add client support for object-info Eric Ju
2025-01-08 18:37 ` [PATCH v9 8/8] cat-file: add remote-object-info to batch-command Eric Ju
2025-01-10 11:20 ` Christian Couder
2025-01-14 1:24 ` Peijian Ju
2025-01-14 2:14 ` [PATCH v10 0/8] " Eric Ju
2025-01-14 2:14 ` [PATCH v10 1/8] git-compat-util: add strtoul_ul() with error handling Eric Ju
2025-01-14 2:14 ` [PATCH v10 2/8] cat-file: add declaration of variable i inside its for loop Eric Ju
2025-01-14 2:14 ` [PATCH v10 3/8] t1006: split test utility functions into new "lib-cat-file.sh" Eric Ju
2025-01-14 2:14 ` [PATCH v10 4/8] fetch-pack: refactor packet writing Eric Ju
2025-01-14 2:14 ` [PATCH v10 5/8] fetch-pack: move fetch initialization Eric Ju
2025-01-14 2:14 ` [PATCH v10 6/8] serve: advertise object-info feature Eric Ju
2025-01-14 2:14 ` [PATCH v10 7/8] transport: add client support for object-info Eric Ju
2025-02-01 2:08 ` Jeff King
2025-02-20 22:52 ` Peijian Ju
2025-01-14 2:15 ` [PATCH v10 8/8] cat-file: add remote-object-info to batch-command Eric Ju
2025-02-01 2:03 ` Jeff King
2025-02-21 15:34 ` Peijian Ju
2025-02-24 23:45 ` Jeff King
2025-03-12 19:53 ` Peijian Ju
2025-02-21 19:04 ` [PATCH v11 0/8] " Eric Ju
2025-02-21 19:04 ` [PATCH v11 1/8] git-compat-util: add strtoul_ul() with error handling Eric Ju
2025-02-21 19:04 ` [PATCH v11 2/8] cat-file: add declaration of variable i inside its for loop Eric Ju
2025-02-21 19:04 ` [PATCH v11 3/8] t1006: split test utility functions into new "lib-cat-file.sh" Eric Ju
2025-02-21 19:04 ` [PATCH v11 4/8] fetch-pack: refactor packet writing Eric Ju
2025-02-21 19:04 ` [PATCH v11 5/8] fetch-pack: move fetch initialization Eric Ju
2025-02-21 19:04 ` [PATCH v11 6/8] serve: advertise object-info feature Eric Ju
2025-02-21 19:04 ` [PATCH v11 7/8] transport: add client support for object-info Eric Ju
2025-02-21 19:04 ` [PATCH v11 8/8] cat-file: add remote-object-info to batch-command Eric Ju
2025-02-24 20:46 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-03-11 23:10 ` Peijian Ju
2025-02-24 23:47 ` Jeff King
2025-03-12 2:19 ` Peijian Ju
2025-03-13 6:02 ` Jeff King
2025-03-21 18:24 ` Peijian Ju
2025-03-24 3:39 ` Jeff King
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