From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on dcvr.yhbt.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-ASN: AS31976 209.132.180.0/23 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.8 required=3.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI,T_DKIM_INVALID, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD shortcircuit=no autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [209.132.180.67]) by dcvr.yhbt.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6BBC1F404 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2018 01:48:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1751036AbeCZBsk (ORCPT ); Sun, 25 Mar 2018 21:48:40 -0400 Received: from mail-wm0-f67.google.com ([74.125.82.67]:35780 "EHLO mail-wm0-f67.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1750977AbeCZBsi (ORCPT ); Sun, 25 Mar 2018 21:48:38 -0400 Received: by mail-wm0-f67.google.com with SMTP id r82so12529916wme.0; Sun, 25 Mar 2018 18:48:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=sender:from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version; bh=L3inJFhJhupYcyU64jqqg9S67h+3dFHH9kh/OX2OSxY=; b=IIABEsDtwaA9daQ+w7fZPzoz0D9CoIHUavQvWJqLcn+GWTHPbyJVT2Ct1F9cMaHsZp PqayxlpZt5EXhPomdjX2KDc3+35Z4700Y99TV3EyGJ2iD0zxhNTob1OS3vtccYa3GKdE 9CWX15s90V1l6djo2Qu4BZo2njl4z1xy1CgEloQswoVTRr7kxA+5UcUPRrPolwT+xXNB X47EuHpZx9GeQVz9s6jVCQ7fcEAADci+D4CzfPILM5f757fcLalMzht0mITg+dkzyMwG wcTr5xbwNUfv3cdtU0CzZyuboPmzSPePJbUtXQcMof42ImhnaqyRon/rzHzTiizHe60+ 6TaA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:sender:from:to:cc:subject:references:date :in-reply-to:message-id:user-agent:mime-version; bh=L3inJFhJhupYcyU64jqqg9S67h+3dFHH9kh/OX2OSxY=; b=N3uJHJpUpB5GLEnbkwRpT0On3Wlc+M3iUBF1zwaCUYNaE1m7gpauzGYzrAUyAXBlea hfeY2MAYobClnYFhpdmVDm+f4Hjh1LTQy21SOqq6TsW92/aHgEkfFVP8uSF7b7g9erMP ApL9oBQc03NgYmQdf6hWxPyop6toqSsQQGsEMstFp4384iwKQ18JNyt6C2HLAspPj4SI b9NTishLw56VJ/qAeRRePC5NNE09SgK64d+s2scJiOr15qOtm4qmwoT2vgNdOTF8xLiH oVtXoGRQemPGEb+8TBPPZVkwjNXCpV6Vy5HCDR1WQxZIxnSAAPwKGZ+nRmQv9llz23yY co1A== X-Gm-Message-State: AElRT7FWPApH/16tkyK3cvVRnvTnNAwLTOphHcrQ99GmlKQ+oOcq3zes uFyhxsoNsVHwhPsml0hDG54= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AIpwx4+cKEOa98v+d1y3jj5UUy/OWP60AyasWurkZ/Rqh62tIft/d77oVDKvqL4wSrvYQvWIo8aCLQ== X-Received: by 10.28.94.131 with SMTP id s125mr1797991wmb.83.1522028916867; Sun, 25 Mar 2018 18:48:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (112.68.155.104.bc.googleusercontent.com. [104.155.68.112]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id l73sm14503209wma.10.2018.03.25.18.48.36 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Sun, 25 Mar 2018 18:48:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Junio C Hamano To: "brian m. carlson" Cc: =?utf-8?B?w4Z2YXIgQXJuZmrDtnLDsA==?= Bjarmason , git@vger.kernel.org, Linux Kernel Mailing List Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] send-email: supply a --send-delay=1 by default References: <20180325182803.30036-1-avarab@gmail.com> <20180325182803.30036-3-avarab@gmail.com> <20180325210132.GE74743@genre.crustytoothpaste.net> Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2018 18:48:35 -0700 In-Reply-To: <20180325210132.GE74743@genre.crustytoothpaste.net> (brian m. carlson's message of "Sun, 25 Mar 2018 21:01:32 +0000") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.2.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org "brian m. carlson" writes: > I'm not sure that this is going to have the effect you want it to have. > Let me give an example to demonstrate why. > ... > In short, I don't think this is going to be especially helpful because > it won't change the status quo for a lot of senders. You'd have to > insert some significant delay in order to get the effect you desire, and > even then things could still be delivered out of order. Thanks for explaining it clearly. In the past on this list those who do not get the store-and-forward nature of e-mail transport have brought this up a few times, but this approach fundamentally do not work, at least for the purpose of forcing ordering of messages at the receiving end.