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From: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
To: "Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget" <gitgitgadget@gmail.com>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org,
	 "brian m. carlson" <sandals@crustytoothpaste.net>,
	Phillip Wood <phillip.wood123@gmail.com>,
	 Andreas Schwab <schwab@linux-m68k.org>,
	 Ondrej Pohorelsky <opohorel@redhat.com>,
	Patrick Steinhardt <ps@pks.im>,  Jeff King <peff@peff.net>,
	 "D. Ben Knoble" <ben.knoble@gmail.com>,
	 Johannes Schindelin <johannes.schindelin@gmx.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 0/6] Sanitize sideband channel messages
Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2026 06:48:19 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <xmqqqzqzmeks.fsf@gitster.g> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <xmqqv7gcnwd4.fsf@gitster.g> (Junio C. Hamano's message of "Wed, 04 Feb 2026 11:26:31 -0800")

Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com> writes:

>  * I would have preferred to see the early parts of the series all
>    being opt-in, and that subset of the series be able to graduate
>    earlier.  Way earlier than the default flip to prove that they do
>    not hurt when unconfigured (they are theoretically no-op while
>    being opt-in, but we want to make sure), and that they do help
>    when configured.  And then once we are satisfied, the default
>    flip can be discussed and applied.

Thinking about this a bit more, I see a strong reason to prefer the
way the series in this iteration is constructed.  We could merge the
early parts down to 'next' well before the last piece, and hopefully
we will know how much what they are already using breaks (and we
know colors are use in the field, and we know by default we pass
colors, so this is to catch other uses of control sequences) by
filtering among those who are running 'next' for their every-day
work, before the main part of the series leaves 'master'.

If we did it the other way around, even if we mergee everything to
'next', the guinea-pig population will be limited to those who build
'next' with WITH_BREAKING_CHANGES, which would be a lot smaller
minority (I suspect that nobody uses a build with
WITH_BREAKING_CHANGES for their every-day work, actually).

So I no longer think the "no-op by default first and then tighten at
the end with WITH_BREAKING_CHANGES" is my preference.

Thanks.

  reply	other threads:[~2026-02-05 14:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 85+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-01-14 18:19 [PATCH 0/3] Sanitize sideband channel messages Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2025-01-14 18:19 ` [PATCH 1/3] sideband: mask control characters Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2025-01-15 14:49   ` Phillip Wood
2025-12-02 15:43     ` Johannes Schindelin
2025-01-15 15:17   ` Andreas Schwab
2025-01-15 16:24     ` Junio C Hamano
2025-01-14 18:19 ` [PATCH 2/3] sideband: introduce an "escape hatch" to allow " Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2025-01-14 18:19 ` [PATCH 3/3] sideband: do allow ANSI color sequences by default Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2025-01-14 22:50 ` [PATCH 0/3] Sanitize sideband channel messages brian m. carlson
2025-01-16  6:45   ` Junio C Hamano
2025-01-28 16:03     ` Ondrej Pohorelsky
2025-01-31 17:55       ` Junio C Hamano
2025-12-02 14:11     ` Johannes Schindelin
2025-12-03  0:47       ` brian m. carlson
2025-12-03  8:04         ` Johannes Schindelin
2025-01-15 14:49 ` Phillip Wood
2025-12-02 14:56   ` Johannes Schindelin
2025-12-17 14:23 ` [PATCH v2 0/4] " Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2025-12-17 14:23   ` [PATCH v2 1/4] sideband: mask control characters Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2026-01-09 12:38     ` Patrick Steinhardt
2026-01-16 19:29       ` Johannes Schindelin
2025-12-17 14:23   ` [PATCH v2 2/4] sideband: introduce an "escape hatch" to allow " Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2025-12-18  2:22     ` Junio C Hamano
2025-12-18 17:59       ` Johannes Schindelin
2025-12-19 13:33         ` Junio C Hamano
2026-01-16 19:25           ` Johannes Schindelin
2026-01-09 12:38     ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-12-17 14:23   ` [PATCH v2 3/4] sideband: do allow ANSI color sequences by default Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2026-01-09 12:38     ` Patrick Steinhardt
2026-01-16 19:38       ` Johannes Schindelin
2025-12-17 14:23   ` [PATCH v2 4/4] sideband: add options to allow more control sequences to be passed through Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2026-01-09 12:38     ` Patrick Steinhardt
2026-01-10 17:26       ` brian m. carlson
2026-01-15 21:14         ` Jeff King
2026-01-15 21:36           ` Junio C Hamano
2026-01-15 23:12             ` Johannes Schindelin
2026-01-16  6:45               ` Patrick Steinhardt
2026-01-16 12:12                 ` Ondrej Pohorelsky
2026-01-16 15:21                   ` Junio C Hamano
2026-01-16 18:46                     ` Johannes Schindelin
2026-01-16 19:24                       ` Junio C Hamano
2026-01-19  7:20                     ` Patrick Steinhardt
2026-01-19 22:16                       ` brian m. carlson
2026-01-20  2:41                         ` D. Ben Knoble
2026-01-20 17:05                         ` Junio C Hamano
2026-01-20 19:31                           ` Jeff King
2026-01-20 20:11                             ` Junio C Hamano
2026-01-21  7:39                           ` Patrick Steinhardt
2026-01-22 12:29                           ` Johannes Schindelin
2026-01-22 17:58                             ` Junio C Hamano
2026-01-15 23:10           ` brian m. carlson
2026-02-03  1:11             ` Junio C Hamano
2026-02-03  7:12               ` Johannes Schindelin
2026-02-03 19:00                 ` Junio C Hamano
2026-02-04 19:35               ` Junio C Hamano
2026-01-16 19:47       ` Johannes Schindelin
2026-01-16 22:26   ` [PATCH v3 0/5] Sanitize sideband channel messages Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2026-01-16 22:26     ` [PATCH v3 1/5] sideband: mask control characters Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2026-01-16 22:26     ` [PATCH v3 2/5] sideband: introduce an "escape hatch" to allow " Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2026-01-16 22:26     ` [PATCH v3 3/5] sideband: do allow ANSI color sequences by default Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2026-01-16 22:26     ` [PATCH v3 4/5] sideband: add options to allow more control sequences to be passed through Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2026-01-16 22:26     ` [PATCH v3 5/5] sideband: offer to configure sanitizing on a per-URL basis Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2026-01-16 22:32     ` [PATCH v3 0/5] Sanitize sideband channel messages Johannes Schindelin
2026-02-03 10:17     ` [PATCH v4 0/6] " Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2026-02-03 10:17       ` [PATCH v4 1/6] sideband: mask control characters Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2026-02-03 10:17       ` [PATCH v4 2/6] sideband: introduce an "escape hatch" to allow " Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2026-02-03 10:17       ` [PATCH v4 3/6] sideband: do allow ANSI color sequences by default Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2026-02-03 10:18       ` [PATCH v4 4/6] sideband: add options to allow more control sequences to be passed through Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2026-02-03 10:18       ` [PATCH v4 5/6] sideband: offer to configure sanitizing on a per-URL basis Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2026-02-03 10:18       ` [PATCH v4 6/6] sideband: delay sanitizing by default to Git v3.0 Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2026-02-04 19:26       ` [PATCH v4 0/6] Sanitize sideband channel messages Junio C Hamano
2026-02-05 14:48         ` Junio C Hamano [this message]
2026-02-13 23:50           ` Junio C Hamano
2026-03-02 18:11         ` [PATCH 0/3] Sanitizing sideband output Junio C Hamano
2026-03-02 18:11           ` [PATCH 1/3] sideband: drop 'default' configuration Junio C Hamano
2026-03-02 18:11           ` [PATCH 2/3] sideband: delay sanitizing by default to Git v3.0 Junio C Hamano
2026-03-02 18:11           ` [PATCH 3/3] sideband: conditional documentation fix Junio C Hamano
2026-03-05 23:34       ` [PATCH v5 0/7] Sanitizing sideband output Junio C Hamano
2026-03-05 23:34         ` [PATCH v5 1/7] sideband: mask control characters Junio C Hamano
2026-03-05 23:34         ` [PATCH v5 2/7] sideband: introduce an "escape hatch" to allow " Junio C Hamano
2026-03-05 23:34         ` [PATCH v5 3/7] sideband: do allow ANSI color sequences by default Junio C Hamano
2026-03-05 23:34         ` [PATCH v5 4/7] sideband: add options to allow more control sequences to be passed through Junio C Hamano
2026-03-05 23:34         ` [PATCH v5 5/7] sideband: offer to configure sanitizing on a per-URL basis Junio C Hamano
2026-03-05 23:34         ` [PATCH v5 6/7] sideband: drop 'default' configuration Junio C Hamano
2026-03-05 23:34         ` [PATCH v5 7/7] sideband: delay sanitizing by default to Git v3.0 Junio C Hamano

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