git.vger.kernel.org archive mirror
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
To: Usman Akinyemi <usmanakinyemi202@gmail.com>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org,  christian.couder@gmail.com,  ps@pks.im,
	johncai86@gmail.com,  Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de,
	 me@ttaylorr.com, phillip.wood@dunelm.org.uk,
	 sunshine@sunshineco.com, rsbecker@nexbridge.com,
	 Christian Couder <chriscool@tuxfamily.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 5/6] connect: advertise OS version
Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2025 11:06:01 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <xmqqr04w0yxy.fsf@gitster.g> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPSxiM__kNH7+itsiOHzztJZZvpw-AcR1s=ZfSm=OLv4p0POsw@mail.gmail.com> (Usman Akinyemi's message of "Mon, 20 Jan 2025 23:45:00 +0530")

Usman Akinyemi <usmanakinyemi202@gmail.com> writes:

> On Sat, Jan 18, 2025 at 3:52 AM Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com> wrote:
>>
>> Usman Akinyemi <usmanakinyemi202@gmail.com> writes:
>>
>> > As some issues that can happen with a Git client can be operating system
>> > specific, it can be useful for a server to know which OS a client is
>> > using. In the same way it can be useful for a client to know which OS
>> > a server is using.
>>
>> Hmph.  The other end may be running different version of Git, and
>> the version difference of _our_ software is probably more relevant.
>> For that matter, they may even be running something entirely
>> different from our software, like Gerrit.  So I am not sure I am
>> convinced that os-version thing is a good thing to have with that
>> paragraph.
> Hi Junio,
>
> What could be a better way of describing this ? Also, user-agent capability is
> already sharing the information about the version of Git.

I dunno.  I only said that what you said does not convince me that
os-version is a good thing.  Try harder, perhaps, to be more
convincing?  After all it is your itch.

An alternative that may be conceptually cleaner is to encourage
people to include not just Git version but OS variant information in
the existing "agent" capability, making it easier to do (which
probably means an addition to configuration knob), and encourage
implementors of other Git-compatible software to also let their
systems identify themselves via the "agent" capability.

As we have documented that "agent" strings are purely informative,
there shouldn't be any problem if we started identifying the version
of Git running on one end as "git/2.47.0 Linux" (instead of
"git/2.47.0").

>> And among these four combinations, only one of them results in "send
>> to each other", but the description above is fuzzy.
> Yeah, describing the four combinations would better right ?

I do not think readers necessarily would want to hear about the four
combinations; a paragraph that makes it clear that the configuration
is independently set on either end of the connection will make it
obvious to them without being told.

>> So the question is again, do we ever need to use os_version() that
>> is a raw string that may require sanitizing?  I do not think of any
>> offhand.
> In this case, I guess there has to be a conclusion on what to do.

As I didn't hear any concrete use cases of the version string before
sanitizing, I would suggest to make os_version() to

 - ask for a string from the underlying system layer (like uname(2)
   or its emulation), 

 - immediately sanitize it,

 - cache the result from the above (just like the
   os_version_sanitized() in the posted patch does with a variable
   of type "static char *" in the function scope), and

 - keep returning that sanitized version to the callers.

to simplify the API surface.

Thanks.

  reply	other threads:[~2025-01-21 19:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 107+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-01-06 10:30 [PATCH 0/4][Outreachy] Introduce os-version Capability with Configurable Options Usman Akinyemi
2025-01-06 10:30 ` [PATCH 1/4] version: refactor redact_non_printables() Usman Akinyemi
2025-01-06 22:35   ` Eric Sunshine
2025-01-08 12:58     ` Usman Akinyemi
2025-01-06 10:30 ` [PATCH 2/4] version: refactor get_uname_info() Usman Akinyemi
2025-01-06 16:04   ` Junio C Hamano
2025-01-08 13:06     ` Usman Akinyemi
2025-01-06 10:30 ` [PATCH 3/4] connect: advertise OS version Usman Akinyemi
2025-01-06 16:22   ` Junio C Hamano
2025-01-08 13:06     ` Usman Akinyemi
2025-01-08 16:15       ` Junio C Hamano
2025-01-09 14:25         ` Usman Akinyemi
2025-01-09 15:46           ` Junio C Hamano
2025-01-10 17:56             ` Usman Akinyemi
2025-01-10 19:24               ` Junio C Hamano
2025-01-11 11:07                 ` Usman Akinyemi
2025-01-13 15:46                   ` Junio C Hamano
2025-01-13 18:26                     ` Usman Akinyemi
2025-01-13 19:47                       ` Junio C Hamano
2025-01-13 20:07                         ` rsbecker
2025-01-06 23:17   ` Eric Sunshine
2025-01-08 13:14     ` Usman Akinyemi
2025-01-06 10:30 ` [PATCH 4/4] version: introduce osversion.command config for os-version output Usman Akinyemi
2025-01-17 10:46 ` [PATCH v2 0/6][Outreachy] Introduce os-version Capability with Configurable Options Usman Akinyemi
2025-01-17 10:46   ` [PATCH v2 1/6] version: refactor redact_non_printables() Usman Akinyemi
2025-01-17 18:26     ` Junio C Hamano
2025-01-17 19:48       ` Junio C Hamano
2025-01-20 17:10       ` Usman Akinyemi
2025-01-21  8:12         ` Christian Couder
2025-01-21 18:01           ` Junio C Hamano
2025-01-17 10:46   ` [PATCH v2 2/6] version: refactor get_uname_info() Usman Akinyemi
2025-01-17 10:46   ` [PATCH v2 3/6] version: extend get_uname_info() to hide system details Usman Akinyemi
2025-01-17 18:27     ` Junio C Hamano
2025-01-17 10:46   ` [PATCH v2 4/6] t5701: add setup test to remove side-effect dependency Usman Akinyemi
2025-01-17 19:31     ` Junio C Hamano
2025-01-20 17:32       ` Usman Akinyemi
2025-01-20 19:52         ` Junio C Hamano
2025-01-21 13:43           ` Usman Akinyemi
2025-01-17 10:46   ` [PATCH v2 5/6] connect: advertise OS version Usman Akinyemi
2025-01-17 19:35     ` Junio C Hamano
2025-01-17 22:22     ` Junio C Hamano
2025-01-17 22:47       ` rsbecker
2025-01-17 23:04         ` Junio C Hamano
2025-01-20 18:15       ` Usman Akinyemi
2025-01-21 19:06         ` Junio C Hamano [this message]
2025-01-17 10:46   ` [PATCH v2 6/6] version: introduce osversion.command config for os-version output Usman Akinyemi
2025-01-17 21:44     ` Eric Sunshine
2025-01-20 18:17       ` Usman Akinyemi
2025-01-20 18:41         ` Eric Sunshine
2025-01-20 19:08           ` Usman Akinyemi
2025-01-17 22:33     ` Junio C Hamano
2025-01-17 22:49       ` rsbecker
2025-01-17 23:06         ` Junio C Hamano
2025-01-17 23:18           ` rsbecker
2025-01-20 18:58       ` Usman Akinyemi
2025-01-21 19:14         ` Junio C Hamano
2025-01-21 19:51           ` rsbecker
2025-01-24 12:21   ` [PATCH v3 0/6][Outreachy] Introduce os-version Capability with Configurable Options Usman Akinyemi
2025-01-24 12:21     ` [PATCH v3 1/6] version: replace manual ASCII checks with isprint() for clarity Usman Akinyemi
2025-01-24 18:13       ` Junio C Hamano
2025-01-24 12:21     ` [PATCH v3 2/6] version: refactor redact_non_printables() Usman Akinyemi
2025-01-24 12:21     ` [PATCH v3 3/6] version: refactor get_uname_info() Usman Akinyemi
2025-01-24 12:21     ` [PATCH v3 4/6] version: extend get_uname_info() to hide system details Usman Akinyemi
2025-01-24 12:21     ` [PATCH v3 5/6] t5701: add setup test to remove side-effect dependency Usman Akinyemi
2025-01-24 18:12       ` Junio C Hamano
2025-01-24 12:21     ` [PATCH v3 6/6] connect: advertise OS version Usman Akinyemi
2025-02-05 18:52       ` [PATCH v4 0/6][Outreachy] extend agent capability to include OS name Usman Akinyemi
2025-02-05 18:52         ` [PATCH v4 1/6] version: replace manual ASCII checks with isprint() for clarity Usman Akinyemi
2025-02-05 18:52         ` [PATCH v4 2/6] version: refactor redact_non_printables() Usman Akinyemi
2025-02-05 18:52         ` [PATCH v4 3/6] version: refactor get_uname_info() Usman Akinyemi
2025-02-05 18:52         ` [PATCH v4 4/6] version: extend get_uname_info() to hide system details Usman Akinyemi
2025-02-05 18:52         ` [PATCH v4 5/6] t5701: add setup test to remove side-effect dependency Usman Akinyemi
2025-02-05 18:52         ` [PATCH v4 6/6] agent: advertise OS name via agent capability Usman Akinyemi
2025-02-05 21:48           ` Junio C Hamano
2025-02-06  6:37             ` Usman Akinyemi
2025-02-06 15:13               ` Junio C Hamano
2025-02-07 17:27                 ` Usman Akinyemi
2025-02-07 17:57                   ` Junio C Hamano
2025-02-07 19:25             ` Usman Akinyemi
2025-02-14 12:36         ` [PATCH v5 0/6][Outreachy] extend agent capability to include OS name Usman Akinyemi
2025-02-14 12:36           ` [PATCH v5 1/6] version: replace manual ASCII checks with isprint() for clarity Usman Akinyemi
2025-02-14 12:36           ` [PATCH v5 2/6] version: refactor redact_non_printables() Usman Akinyemi
2025-02-14 12:36           ` [PATCH v5 3/6] version: refactor get_uname_info() Usman Akinyemi
2025-02-14 12:36           ` [PATCH v5 4/6] version: extend get_uname_info() to hide system details Usman Akinyemi
2025-02-14 12:36           ` [PATCH v5 5/6] t5701: add setup test to remove side-effect dependency Usman Akinyemi
2025-02-14 21:49             ` Junio C Hamano
2025-02-14 12:36           ` [PATCH v5 6/6] agent: advertise OS name via agent capability Usman Akinyemi
2025-02-14 22:07             ` Junio C Hamano
2025-02-15 15:29               ` Usman Akinyemi
2025-02-15 15:50           ` [PATCH v6 0/6][Outreachy] extend agent capability to include OS name Usman Akinyemi
2025-02-15 15:50             ` [PATCH v6 1/6] version: replace manual ASCII checks with isprint() for clarity Usman Akinyemi
2025-02-15 15:50             ` [PATCH v6 2/6] version: refactor redact_non_printables() Usman Akinyemi
2025-02-15 15:50             ` [PATCH v6 3/6] version: refactor get_uname_info() Usman Akinyemi
2025-02-15 15:50             ` [PATCH v6 4/6] version: extend get_uname_info() to hide system details Usman Akinyemi
2025-02-15 15:50             ` [PATCH v6 5/6] t5701: add setup test to remove side-effect dependency Usman Akinyemi
2025-02-15 15:50             ` [PATCH v6 6/6] agent: advertise OS name via agent capability Usman Akinyemi
2025-02-18 17:14               ` Junio C Hamano
2025-02-18 17:09             ` [PATCH v6 0/6][Outreachy] extend agent capability to include OS name Junio C Hamano
2025-01-24 18:39     ` [PATCH v3 0/6][Outreachy] Introduce os-version Capability with Configurable Options Junio C Hamano
2025-01-27 13:38       ` Christian Couder
2025-01-27 15:26         ` Junio C Hamano
2025-01-31 14:30           ` Christian Couder
2025-01-31 16:37             ` Junio C Hamano
2025-01-31 19:42               ` Usman Akinyemi
2025-01-31 20:15                 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-01-31 19:46               ` Usman Akinyemi
2025-01-31 20:17                 ` Junio C Hamano

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=xmqqr04w0yxy.fsf@gitster.g \
    --to=gitster@pobox.com \
    --cc=Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de \
    --cc=chriscool@tuxfamily.org \
    --cc=christian.couder@gmail.com \
    --cc=git@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=johncai86@gmail.com \
    --cc=me@ttaylorr.com \
    --cc=phillip.wood@dunelm.org.uk \
    --cc=ps@pks.im \
    --cc=rsbecker@nexbridge.com \
    --cc=sunshine@sunshineco.com \
    --cc=usmanakinyemi202@gmail.com \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for NNTP newsgroup(s).