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From: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
To: Patrick Steinhardt <ps@pks.im>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org,  "Randall S. Becker" <randall.becker@nexbridge.ca>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] reftable/stack: accept insecure random bytes
Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2025 07:39:37 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <xmqqr05dnwli.fsf@gitster.g> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Z34gfa-_dSbWD19h@pks.im> (Patrick Steinhardt's message of "Wed, 8 Jan 2025 07:51:41 +0100")

Patrick Steinhardt <ps@pks.im> writes:

>> It may still make sense to drop the first hunk, and consider how to
>> proceed when you further want to reduce the unnecessary dependencies
>> for external users of the reftable library, though.  Are there
>> correctness implications if git_rand() in format_name() yields non
>> random results (like, always using "rnd = 0" instead of calling
>> git_rand())?  I seriously hope not.  And if there is no correctness
>> implications, perhaps we can replace it with rand() or even constant
>> "0"?
>
> No, there aren't any implications on correctness in that case. Sure, the
> randomized delays not being randomized can lead to more contention. But
> even when the randomized suffix for tables is deterministic we wouldn't
> have an issue as the files are still distinguished by their update
> indices.

OK, so they both can be turned into a simple rand() that is expected
to work more reliably especially on more exotic systems (meaning:
the ability the system providers can test their rand() is much
better than our ability to test our git_rand() there)?  It would
help us solve the immediate issue reported, while removing one git
specific function from the reftable library?

Thanks.

  reply	other threads:[~2025-01-08 15:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-01-07 15:26 [PATCH 0/2] reftable/stack: stop dying on exhausted entropy pool Patrick Steinhardt
2025-01-07 15:26 ` [PATCH 1/2] wrapper: allow generating insecure random bytes Patrick Steinhardt
2025-01-07 15:27 ` [PATCH 2/2] reftable/stack: accept " Patrick Steinhardt
2025-01-07 15:37   ` rsbecker
2025-01-07 20:56   ` Junio C Hamano
2025-01-07 21:03     ` rsbecker
2025-01-07 21:09       ` Junio C Hamano
2025-01-07 21:03     ` Junio C Hamano
2025-01-08  6:51       ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-01-08 15:39         ` Junio C Hamano [this message]
2025-01-08 16:21           ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-01-08 17:40             ` Junio C Hamano
2025-01-08 18:16               ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-01-07 23:56   ` rsbecker
2025-01-07 23:21 ` [PATCH 0/2] reftable/stack: stop dying on exhausted entropy pool brian m. carlson
2025-01-07 23:54   ` rsbecker
2025-01-08  7:18     ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-01-08 13:50       ` rsbecker
2025-01-08 22:44       ` brian m. carlson

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