From: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
To: "brian m. carlson" <sandals@crustytoothpaste.net>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org, Patrick Steinhardt <ps@pks.im>,
Derrick Stolee <stolee@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/9] docs: update pack index v3 format
Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2025 10:01:25 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <xmqqseghxdlm.fsf@gitster.g> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aM7G22LJ47nx8Wqk@fruit.crustytoothpaste.net> (brian m. carlson's message of "Sat, 20 Sep 2025 15:23:07 +0000")
"brian m. carlson" <sandals@crustytoothpaste.net> writes:
>> I do also agree that 32-byte is the natural size for the trailing
>> hash, but I found that the two paragraphs below was far more than
>> necessary. As they argue, we use a truncated hash anywhere in our
>> file formats, so I would have understood if the explanation were
>>
>> "20" in "A copy of the 20-byte SHA-256 checksum" is an obvious
>> typo, as SHA-256 is longer than that. Fix it to "32".
>>
>> instead of these two paragraphs.
>>
>> Or did we mean to use a truncated hash back when this transition
>> design was proposed originally?
>
> I think we intended to use a 20-byte value originally because we felt we
> didn't need the full 32 bytes for an index or pack checksum. However,
> as I mentioned, we use the 32-byte checksum for SHA-256 already, so all
> it does is add complexity to try to mandate a 20-byte value.
I think we are saying the same thing but from different sides of the
same mirror.
SHA-256 packs and any csum-file based file would be using 32-byte
checksum because with CSUM_HASH_IN_STREAM, finalize_hashfile() does
not know any way to produce the trailing hash other than writing the
full hash value, and that would be 32 bytes for SHA-256. This was
exactly where my "20 certainly is a typo" impression came from.
Be it a typo or misdesign, picking 32 instead of 20 is a good thing
to do now for a subsystem and fileformat that is not used anywhere
in producation yet.
Thanks.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-09-20 17:01 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-09-19 1:09 [PATCH 0/9] SHA-1/SHA-256 interoperability, part 1 brian m. carlson
2025-09-19 1:09 ` [PATCH 1/9] docs: update pack index v3 format brian m. carlson
2025-09-19 22:08 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-09-20 15:23 ` brian m. carlson
2025-09-20 17:01 ` Junio C Hamano [this message]
2025-09-24 7:55 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-25 21:39 ` brian m. carlson
2025-09-19 1:09 ` [PATCH 2/9] docs: update offset order for pack index v3 brian m. carlson
2025-09-19 1:09 ` [PATCH 3/9] docs: reflect actual double signature for tags brian m. carlson
2025-09-19 22:34 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-09-20 15:29 ` brian m. carlson
2025-09-20 17:04 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-09-24 7:55 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-25 21:46 ` brian m. carlson
2025-09-19 1:09 ` [PATCH 4/9] docs: improve ambiguous areas of pack format documentation brian m. carlson
2025-09-19 23:04 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-09-19 1:09 ` [PATCH 5/9] docs: add documentation for loose objects brian m. carlson
2025-09-19 19:10 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-09-19 19:13 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-09-19 19:15 ` brian m. carlson
2025-09-19 20:18 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-09-24 7:55 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-25 21:40 ` brian m. carlson
2025-09-19 23:16 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-09-24 7:55 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-30 16:39 ` brian m. carlson
2025-09-19 1:09 ` [PATCH 6/9] rev-parse: allow printing compatibility hash brian m. carlson
2025-09-19 23:24 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-09-24 7:55 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-25 21:48 ` brian m. carlson
2025-09-19 1:09 ` [PATCH 7/9] fsck: consider gpgsig headers expected in tags brian m. carlson
2025-09-19 23:31 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-09-22 21:38 ` brian m. carlson
2025-09-19 1:09 ` [PATCH 8/9] Allow specifying compatibility hash brian m. carlson
2025-09-24 7:56 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-30 16:44 ` brian m. carlson
2025-09-19 1:09 ` [PATCH 9/9] t: add a prerequisite for a " brian m. carlson
2025-09-24 7:56 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-10-02 22:38 ` [PATCH v2 0/9] SHA-1/SHA-256 interoperability, part 1 brian m. carlson
2025-10-02 22:38 ` [PATCH v2 1/9] docs: update pack index v3 format brian m. carlson
2025-10-03 17:00 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-10-02 22:38 ` [PATCH v2 2/9] docs: update offset order for pack index v3 brian m. carlson
2025-10-02 22:38 ` [PATCH v2 3/9] docs: reflect actual double signature for tags brian m. carlson
2025-10-02 22:38 ` [PATCH v2 4/9] docs: improve ambiguous areas of pack format documentation brian m. carlson
2025-10-03 17:07 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-10-03 21:06 ` brian m. carlson
2025-10-02 22:38 ` [PATCH v2 5/9] docs: add documentation for loose objects brian m. carlson
2025-10-03 17:05 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-10-02 22:38 ` [PATCH v2 6/9] rev-parse: allow printing compatibility hash brian m. carlson
2025-10-02 22:38 ` [PATCH v2 7/9] fsck: consider gpgsig headers expected in tags brian m. carlson
2025-10-02 22:38 ` [PATCH v2 8/9] t: allow specifying compatibility hash brian m. carlson
2025-10-03 17:14 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-10-03 20:45 ` brian m. carlson
2025-10-02 22:38 ` [PATCH v2 9/9] t1010: use BROKEN_OBJECTS prerequisite brian m. carlson
2025-10-09 21:56 ` [PATCH v3 0/9] SHA-1/SHA-256 interoperability, part 1 brian m. carlson
2025-10-09 21:56 ` [PATCH v3 1/9] docs: update pack index v3 format brian m. carlson
2025-10-09 21:56 ` [PATCH v3 2/9] docs: update offset order for pack index v3 brian m. carlson
2025-10-09 21:56 ` [PATCH v3 3/9] docs: reflect actual double signature for tags brian m. carlson
2025-10-09 21:56 ` [PATCH v3 4/9] docs: improve ambiguous areas of pack format documentation brian m. carlson
2025-10-09 21:56 ` [PATCH v3 5/9] docs: add documentation for loose objects brian m. carlson
2025-10-09 21:56 ` [PATCH v3 6/9] rev-parse: allow printing compatibility hash brian m. carlson
2025-10-09 21:56 ` [PATCH v3 7/9] fsck: consider gpgsig headers expected in tags brian m. carlson
2025-10-09 21:56 ` [PATCH v3 8/9] t: allow specifying compatibility hash brian m. carlson
2025-10-09 21:56 ` [PATCH v3 9/9] t1010: use BROKEN_OBJECTS prerequisite brian m. carlson
2025-10-13 15:24 ` [PATCH v3 0/9] SHA-1/SHA-256 interoperability, part 1 Junio C Hamano
2025-10-13 16:34 ` brian m. carlson
2025-10-14 5:53 ` Patrick Steinhardt
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