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From: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
To: Taylor Blau <me@ttaylorr.com>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org,  Elijah Newren <newren@gmail.com>,
	 Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/8] object-store-ll.h: add note about designated initializers
Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2025 14:07:27 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <xmqqsemapi40.fsf@gitster.g> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <920c91eb1e5a1b6d5faa54240dd9c85f72968edc.1744661167.git.me@ttaylorr.com> (Taylor Blau's message of "Mon, 14 Apr 2025 16:06:14 -0400")

Taylor Blau <me@ttaylorr.com> writes:

> @@ -337,6 +337,14 @@ struct object_info {
>  /*
>   * Initializer for a "struct object_info" that wants no items. You may
>   * also memset() the memory to all-zeroes.
> + *
> + * NOTE: callers expect the initial value of an object_info struct to
> + * be zero'd out. Designated initializers like
> + *
> + *     struct object_info oi = { .sizep = &sz };
> + *
> + * depend on this behavior, so consider strongly before adding new
> + * fields that have a non-zero default value.
>   */
>  #define OBJECT_INFO_INIT { 0 }

Hmph, after thinking hard enough, if a developer cannot come up with
a way to avoid non-zero default value, the callers could just work
if they instead did

	struct object_info oi = OBJECT_INFO_INIT;
        oi.sizep = &sz;

and the member of non-zero default value can be delat with by
updating the default initializer, perhaps like

	#define OBJECT_INFO_INIT { .enabled = 1 }

So I am not sure how the advice in the new comment really helps the
intended audiences.  Shouldn't the advice be more like

    NOTE: when a structure foo has FOO_INIT macro to initialize,
    *never* use your own initialization like so:

	struct foo foo_instance = { .member_i_care_about = 13 };

    Instead, use the _INIT macro and then assign to the member you
    care about, like so:

	struct foo foo_instance = FOO_INIT;
	foo_instance.member_i_care_about = 13;

    This is because there may be members of "struct foo" whose
    default value is not zero, or there will later be added such
    members to the structure.

perhaps?

I can buy a counter-proposal that does not forbid a custom
designated initializers that depends on "all zero" default IF it
gives a piece of advice to the readers that is more usable than
"consider strongly before adding", as "consider strongly before
adding" there smells like just an euphemism for "never add", though.

Thanks.





  reply	other threads:[~2025-04-14 21:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 105+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-04-11 23:26 [RFC PATCH 0/8] repack: avoid MIDX'ing cruft pack(s) where possible Taylor Blau
2025-04-11 23:26 ` [RFC PATCH 1/8] pack-objects: use standard option incompatibility functions Taylor Blau
2025-04-11 23:26 ` [RFC PATCH 2/8] pack-objects: limit scope in 'add_object_entry_from_pack()' Taylor Blau
2025-04-11 23:26 ` [RFC PATCH 3/8] pack-objects: factor out handling '--stdin-packs' Taylor Blau
2025-04-11 23:26 ` [RFC PATCH 4/8] pack-objects: declare 'rev_info' for '--stdin-packs' earlier Taylor Blau
2025-04-11 23:26 ` [RFC PATCH 5/8] pack-objects: perform name-hash traversal for unpacked objects Taylor Blau
2025-04-11 23:26 ` [RFC PATCH 6/8] pack-objects: introduce '--stdin-packs=follow' Taylor Blau
2025-04-11 23:26 ` [RFC PATCH 7/8] repack: keep track of existing MIDX'd packs Taylor Blau
2025-04-11 23:26 ` [RFC PATCH 8/8] repack: exclude cruft pack(s) from the MIDX where possible Taylor Blau
2025-04-14 20:06 ` [PATCH v2 0/8] repack: avoid MIDX'ing cruft pack(s) " Taylor Blau
2025-04-14 20:06   ` [PATCH v2 1/8] pack-objects: use standard option incompatibility functions Taylor Blau
2025-04-14 20:41     ` Junio C Hamano
2025-04-15 19:32       ` Taylor Blau
2025-04-15 19:48         ` Junio C Hamano
2025-04-15 22:27           ` Taylor Blau
2025-04-14 20:06   ` [PATCH v2 2/8] object-store-ll.h: add note about designated initializers Taylor Blau
2025-04-14 21:07     ` Junio C Hamano [this message]
2025-04-15 19:51       ` Taylor Blau
2025-04-15  2:57     ` Elijah Newren
2025-04-15 19:47       ` Taylor Blau
2025-04-14 20:06   ` [PATCH v2 3/8] pack-objects: limit scope in 'add_object_entry_from_pack()' Taylor Blau
2025-04-15  3:10     ` Elijah Newren
2025-04-14 20:06   ` [PATCH v2 4/8] pack-objects: factor out handling '--stdin-packs' Taylor Blau
2025-04-14 20:06   ` [PATCH v2 5/8] pack-objects: declare 'rev_info' for '--stdin-packs' earlier Taylor Blau
2025-04-14 20:06   ` [PATCH v2 6/8] pack-objects: perform name-hash traversal for unpacked objects Taylor Blau
2025-04-15  3:10     ` Elijah Newren
2025-04-15 19:57       ` Taylor Blau
2025-04-14 20:06   ` [PATCH v2 7/8] pack-objects: introduce '--stdin-packs=follow' Taylor Blau
2025-04-15  3:11     ` Elijah Newren
2025-04-15 20:45       ` Taylor Blau
2025-04-16  5:26         ` Elijah Newren
2025-04-14 20:06   ` [PATCH v2 8/8] repack: exclude cruft pack(s) from the MIDX where possible Taylor Blau
2025-04-15  3:11     ` Elijah Newren
2025-04-15 20:51       ` Taylor Blau
2025-04-15  2:57   ` [PATCH v2 0/8] repack: avoid MIDX'ing cruft pack(s) " Elijah Newren
2025-04-15 22:05     ` Taylor Blau
2025-04-15 22:46 ` [PATCH v3 0/9] " Taylor Blau
2025-04-15 22:46   ` [PATCH v3 1/9] pack-objects: use standard option incompatibility functions Taylor Blau
2025-04-15 22:46   ` [PATCH v3 2/9] pack-objects: limit scope in 'add_object_entry_from_pack()' Taylor Blau
2025-04-16  0:58     ` Junio C Hamano
2025-04-16 22:07       ` Taylor Blau
2025-04-16  5:31     ` Elijah Newren
2025-04-16 22:07       ` Taylor Blau
2025-04-15 22:46   ` [PATCH v3 3/9] pack-objects: factor out handling '--stdin-packs' Taylor Blau
2025-04-16  0:59     ` Junio C Hamano
2025-04-15 22:46   ` [PATCH v3 4/9] pack-objects: declare 'rev_info' for '--stdin-packs' earlier Taylor Blau
2025-04-15 22:47   ` [PATCH v3 5/9] pack-objects: perform name-hash traversal for unpacked objects Taylor Blau
2025-04-16  9:21     ` Junio C Hamano
2025-04-15 22:47   ` [PATCH v3 6/9] pack-objects: fix typo in 'show_object_pack_hint()' Taylor Blau
2025-04-16  5:36     ` Elijah Newren
2025-04-15 22:47   ` [PATCH v3 7/9] pack-objects: swap 'show_{object,commit}_pack_hint' Taylor Blau
2025-04-15 22:47   ` [PATCH v3 8/9] pack-objects: introduce '--stdin-packs=follow' Taylor Blau
2025-04-15 22:47   ` [PATCH v3 9/9] repack: exclude cruft pack(s) from the MIDX where possible Taylor Blau
2025-04-16  5:56     ` Elijah Newren
2025-04-16 22:16       ` Taylor Blau
2025-05-13  3:34         ` Elijah Newren
2025-05-28 23:20 ` [PATCH v4 0/9] repack: avoid MIDX'ing cruft pack(s) " Taylor Blau
2025-05-28 23:20   ` [PATCH v4 1/9] pack-objects: use standard option incompatibility functions Taylor Blau
2025-05-28 23:20   ` [PATCH v4 2/9] pack-objects: limit scope in 'add_object_entry_from_pack()' Taylor Blau
2025-05-28 23:20   ` [PATCH v4 3/9] pack-objects: factor out handling '--stdin-packs' Taylor Blau
2025-05-28 23:20   ` [PATCH v4 4/9] pack-objects: declare 'rev_info' for '--stdin-packs' earlier Taylor Blau
2025-05-28 23:20   ` [PATCH v4 5/9] pack-objects: perform name-hash traversal for unpacked objects Taylor Blau
2025-05-28 23:20   ` [PATCH v4 6/9] pack-objects: fix typo in 'show_object_pack_hint()' Taylor Blau
2025-05-28 23:20   ` [PATCH v4 7/9] pack-objects: swap 'show_{object,commit}_pack_hint' Taylor Blau
2025-05-28 23:20   ` [PATCH v4 8/9] pack-objects: introduce '--stdin-packs=follow' Taylor Blau
2025-05-28 23:20   ` [PATCH v4 9/9] repack: exclude cruft pack(s) from the MIDX where possible Taylor Blau
2025-06-19 11:33     ` Carlo Marcelo Arenas Belón
2025-06-19 13:08     ` [PATCH] fixup! " Carlo Marcelo Arenas Belón
2025-06-19 17:07       ` Junio C Hamano
2025-06-19 23:26         ` Taylor Blau
2025-05-29  0:07   ` [PATCH v4 0/9] repack: avoid MIDX'ing cruft pack(s) " Taylor Blau
2025-05-29  0:15     ` Elijah Newren
2025-06-19 23:30 ` [PATCH v5 " Taylor Blau
2025-06-19 23:30   ` [PATCH v5 1/9] pack-objects: use standard option incompatibility functions Taylor Blau
2025-06-19 23:30   ` [PATCH v5 2/9] pack-objects: limit scope in 'add_object_entry_from_pack()' Taylor Blau
2025-06-19 23:30   ` [PATCH v5 3/9] pack-objects: factor out handling '--stdin-packs' Taylor Blau
2025-06-19 23:30   ` [PATCH v5 4/9] pack-objects: declare 'rev_info' for '--stdin-packs' earlier Taylor Blau
2025-06-19 23:30   ` [PATCH v5 5/9] pack-objects: perform name-hash traversal for unpacked objects Taylor Blau
2025-06-19 23:30   ` [PATCH v5 6/9] pack-objects: fix typo in 'show_object_pack_hint()' Taylor Blau
2025-06-19 23:30   ` [PATCH v5 7/9] pack-objects: swap 'show_{object,commit}_pack_hint' Taylor Blau
2025-06-19 23:30   ` [PATCH v5 8/9] pack-objects: introduce '--stdin-packs=follow' Taylor Blau
2025-06-20 15:27     ` Junio C Hamano
2025-06-19 23:30   ` [PATCH v5 9/9] repack: exclude cruft pack(s) from the MIDX where possible Taylor Blau
2025-06-21  4:35     ` Jeff King
2025-06-23 18:47       ` Taylor Blau
2025-06-24 10:54         ` Jeff King
2025-06-24 16:05           ` Taylor Blau
2025-06-23 22:32 ` [PATCH v6 0/9] repack: avoid MIDX'ing cruft pack(s) " Taylor Blau
2025-06-23 22:32   ` [PATCH v6 1/9] pack-objects: use standard option incompatibility functions Taylor Blau
2025-06-24 15:52     ` Junio C Hamano
2025-06-24 16:06       ` Taylor Blau
2025-06-23 22:32   ` [PATCH v6 2/9] pack-objects: limit scope in 'add_object_entry_from_pack()' Taylor Blau
2025-06-23 22:49     ` Junio C Hamano
2025-06-23 22:32   ` [PATCH v6 3/9] pack-objects: factor out handling '--stdin-packs' Taylor Blau
2025-06-23 22:32   ` [PATCH v6 4/9] pack-objects: declare 'rev_info' for '--stdin-packs' earlier Taylor Blau
2025-06-23 22:59     ` Junio C Hamano
2025-06-23 22:32   ` [PATCH v6 5/9] pack-objects: perform name-hash traversal for unpacked objects Taylor Blau
2025-06-23 23:08     ` Junio C Hamano
2025-06-24 16:08       ` Taylor Blau
2025-06-23 22:32   ` [PATCH v6 6/9] pack-objects: fix typo in 'show_object_pack_hint()' Taylor Blau
2025-06-23 22:32   ` [PATCH v6 7/9] pack-objects: swap 'show_{object,commit}_pack_hint' Taylor Blau
2025-06-23 22:32   ` [PATCH v6 8/9] pack-objects: introduce '--stdin-packs=follow' Taylor Blau
2025-06-23 23:35     ` Junio C Hamano
2025-06-24 16:10       ` Taylor Blau
2025-06-23 22:32   ` [PATCH v6 9/9] repack: exclude cruft pack(s) from the MIDX where possible Taylor Blau

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