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From: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
To: Kyle Lippincott <spectral@google.com>
Cc: "René Scharfe" <l.s.r@web.de>, "Git List" <git@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Phillip Wood" <phillip.wood@dunelm.org.uk>,
	"Josh Steadmon" <steadmon@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 3/7] unit-tests: add for_test
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2024 19:41:19 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <xmqqv80szxgw.fsf@gitster.g> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAO_smVhq=MkQV3a6qJtDiFykvR4im7AX4hMfKMNcL5SegnOSLA@mail.gmail.com> (Kyle Lippincott's message of "Thu, 25 Jul 2024 14:31:50 -0700")

Kyle Lippincott <spectral@google.com> writes:

>> > Maybe it's because I'm coming from a C++ environment at
>> > $JOB that's using Google's gunit and gmock frameworks, where every
>> > test is in its own function and we usually don't even write the main
>> > function ourselves, but I have a preference for the separate
>> > functions.
>>
>> If we do not have to write the main at all, then it would make the
>> separate function that implements a single test a lot more palatable,
>> and we do not even have to implement and call TEST() macro ;-).
> ...
> I tried to think of a way to do
> this, and they all involved some other system coming along and
> identifying the tests and code-generating a main function, which also
> seems like too much magic to me.

I thought that automatically generating the boilerplates from the
visible list of test functions and piecing them together with a
synthetic main was what was brought up as how libgit2 project does
this?  It does not sound all that involved and I do not find it a
rocket science.

In any case, a well written framework soon becomes "magic" anyway.
Our scripted test suite, back when Pasky and I invented it, was
unknown to many people, would have looked very far away from any
day-to-day shell scripts, and are full of magic.  Modern versions
gained even more magic than the what we had in the olden days.  But
I hear these days other projects imitate the pattern, so it may no
longer so much "magic" to many audiences.

If we use a well-written framework for C unit tests, I suspect that
the same thing would happen eventually.  An important point is the
"well-written" part, which needs to hide the ugly implementation
details well without revealing it in corners.  As Phillip said, a
loop construct similar to for() that you are not allowed to break or
continue may not qualify exactly for that reason.




  reply	other threads:[~2024-07-26  2:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 115+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-06-29 15:33 [PATCH 0/6] unit-tests: add and use TEST_RUN to simplify tests René Scharfe
2024-06-29 15:35 ` [PATCH 1/6] t0080: move expected output to a file René Scharfe
2024-07-01  3:20   ` Jeff King
2024-07-01 19:17     ` Junio C Hamano
2024-07-01 22:10       ` Jeff King
2024-07-01 23:38         ` Junio C Hamano
2024-07-02  0:57           ` Jeff King
2024-07-01 19:51     ` René Scharfe
2024-07-01 22:18       ` Jeff King
2024-06-29 15:43 ` [PATCH 2/6] unit-tests: add TEST_RUN René Scharfe
2024-07-02 15:13   ` phillip.wood123
2024-07-02 15:51     ` Junio C Hamano
2024-07-02 20:55       ` René Scharfe
2024-07-02 20:55     ` René Scharfe
2024-07-05  9:42       ` phillip.wood123
2024-07-05 18:01         ` René Scharfe
2024-07-07  7:20           ` René Scharfe
2024-07-08 15:18             ` phillip.wood123
2024-07-08 15:39               ` Junio C Hamano
2024-07-11 15:34                 ` Junio C Hamano
2024-07-13 13:27                   ` Phillip Wood
2024-07-13 15:48                     ` Junio C Hamano
2024-07-08 15:12           ` phillip.wood123
2024-06-29 15:44 ` [PATCH 3/6] t-ctype: use TEST_RUN René Scharfe
2024-07-01 19:49   ` Josh Steadmon
2024-07-01 20:04     ` René Scharfe
2024-07-02 15:14       ` phillip.wood123
2024-07-02 20:55         ` René Scharfe
2024-06-29 15:45 ` [PATCH 4/6] t-reftable-basics: " René Scharfe
2024-06-29 15:46 ` [PATCH 5/6] t-strvec: " René Scharfe
2024-07-02 15:14   ` phillip.wood123
2024-07-02 20:55     ` René Scharfe
2024-06-29 15:47 ` [PATCH 6/6] t-strbuf: " René Scharfe
2024-07-01 19:58   ` Josh Steadmon
2024-07-01 20:18     ` René Scharfe
2024-07-02 15:14     ` phillip.wood123
2024-07-02 20:55       ` René Scharfe
2024-07-04 13:09         ` phillip.wood123
2024-07-10 13:55       ` Phillip Wood
2024-07-14 11:44         ` René Scharfe
2024-07-15 14:46         ` Ghanshyam Thakkar
2024-07-02 17:29     ` Ghanshyam Thakkar
2024-07-02 20:55       ` René Scharfe
2024-07-03  3:42         ` Ghanshyam Thakkar
2024-07-08 18:11       ` Josh Steadmon
2024-07-08 21:59         ` Ghanshyam Thakkar
2024-07-01 19:59 ` [PATCH 0/6] unit-tests: add and use TEST_RUN to simplify tests Josh Steadmon
2024-07-10 22:13 ` Junio C Hamano
2024-07-11 10:05   ` Phillip Wood
2024-07-11 15:12     ` Junio C Hamano
2024-07-14 10:35     ` René Scharfe
2024-07-21  6:12 ` [PATCH v2 0/6] unit-tests: add and use for_test " René Scharfe
2024-07-21  6:15   ` [PATCH v2 1/6] t0080: move expected output to a file René Scharfe
2024-07-23 20:54     ` Jeff King
2024-07-21  6:21   ` [PATCH v2 2/6] unit-tests: add for_test René Scharfe
2024-07-22 19:13     ` Kyle Lippincott
2024-07-22 19:36       ` Junio C Hamano
2024-07-22 20:31         ` René Scharfe
2024-07-22 20:41           ` Junio C Hamano
2024-07-22 22:47           ` Kyle Lippincott
2024-07-23 12:37             ` René Scharfe
2024-07-23  6:02           ` [PATCH v2] unit-tests: show location of checks outside of tests René Scharfe
2024-07-23 13:25             ` Phillip Wood
2024-07-22 22:41         ` [PATCH v2 2/6] unit-tests: add for_test Kyle Lippincott
2024-07-23  7:18           ` René Scharfe
2024-07-23  6:36         ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-07-23  9:25           ` René Scharfe
2024-07-23  9:53             ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-07-23 12:37               ` René Scharfe
2024-07-23 13:00                 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-07-23 13:23                 ` Phillip Wood
2024-07-23 13:58                   ` René Scharfe
2024-07-23 13:24       ` Phillip Wood
2024-07-25  9:45         ` Phillip Wood
2024-07-30 14:00           ` René Scharfe
2024-07-21  6:22   ` [PATCH v2 3/6] t-ctype: use for_test René Scharfe
2024-07-21  6:23   ` [PATCH v2 4/6] t-reftable-basics: " René Scharfe
2024-07-21  6:24   ` [PATCH v2 5/6] t-strvec: " René Scharfe
2024-07-21  6:26   ` [PATCH v2 6/6] t-strbuf: " René Scharfe
2024-07-23 13:23     ` Phillip Wood
2024-07-24 14:42 ` [PATCH v3 0/7] add and use for_test to simplify tests René Scharfe
2024-07-24 14:48   ` [PATCH v3 1/7] t0080: use here-doc test body René Scharfe
2024-07-24 14:50   ` [PATCH v3 2/7] unit-tests: show location of checks outside of tests René Scharfe
2024-07-24 14:51   ` [PATCH v3 3/7] unit-tests: add for_test René Scharfe
2024-07-24 19:24     ` Kyle Lippincott
2024-07-25  9:45       ` Phillip Wood
2024-07-25 16:02       ` Junio C Hamano
2024-07-25 21:31         ` Kyle Lippincott
2024-07-26  2:41           ` Junio C Hamano [this message]
2024-07-26 12:56             ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-07-26 15:59               ` Junio C Hamano
2024-07-29  9:48                 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-07-29 18:55                   ` Junio C Hamano
2024-07-30  4:49                     ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-07-30 14:00                       ` René Scharfe
2024-07-31  5:19                         ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-07-31 16:48                           ` René Scharfe
2024-08-01  6:51                             ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-07-24 14:52   ` [PATCH v3 4/7] t-ctype: use for_test René Scharfe
2024-07-24 14:54   ` [PATCH v3 5/7] t-reftable-basics: " René Scharfe
2024-07-24 14:54   ` [PATCH v3 6/7] t-strvec: " René Scharfe
2024-07-24 14:55   ` [PATCH v3 7/7] t-strbuf: " René Scharfe
2024-07-30 14:03 ` [PATCH v4 0/6] add and use if_test to simplify tests René Scharfe
2024-07-30 14:05   ` [PATCH v4 1/6] t0080: use here-doc test body René Scharfe
2024-07-31 20:52     ` Kyle Lippincott
2024-07-30 14:07   ` [PATCH v4 2/6] unit-tests: show location of checks outside of tests René Scharfe
2024-07-31 21:03     ` Kyle Lippincott
2024-08-01  7:23       ` René Scharfe
2024-07-30 14:08   ` [PATCH v4 3/6] unit-tests: add if_test René Scharfe
2024-07-31 22:04     ` Kyle Lippincott
2024-08-01  7:32       ` René Scharfe
2024-08-02  0:48         ` Kyle Lippincott
2024-07-30 14:10   ` [PATCH v4 4/6] t-ctype: use if_test René Scharfe
2024-07-30 14:10   ` [PATCH v4 5/6] t-reftable-basics: " René Scharfe
2024-07-30 14:12   ` [PATCH v4 6/6] t-strvec: " René Scharfe

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