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From: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
To: Patrick Steinhardt <ps@pks.im>
Cc: Christian Couder <christian.couder@gmail.com>,
	 git@vger.kernel.org, Toon Claes <toon@iotcl.com>,
	 Christian Couder <chriscool@tuxfamily.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 0/5] meson: wire up support for benchmarks
Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2025 04:13:15 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <xmqqwmb9vmlw.fsf@gitster.g> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aAm-pcIfrFt6mjlV@pks.im> (Patrick Steinhardt's message of "Thu, 24 Apr 2025 06:31:33 +0200")

Patrick Steinhardt <ps@pks.im> writes:

>> I was more expecting something simple like:
>> 
>> if time.found()
>>   ...
>> else
>>   error('Benchmarking requires the `time` command')
>> endif
>> 
>> in the same way as in meson.build elsewhere we have things like:
>> 
>> if not msgfmt.found() and gettext_option.enabled()
>>   error('Internationalization via libintl requires msgfmt')
>> endif
>
> But erroring out by default doesn't really feel nice to the general
> developer. I'd claim that 99% of the time, developers will only end up
> running the test suite, never the benchmarks. So the default should
> match that and not require GNU time to be available, if you ask me.

Maybe a stupid question, but does "time" a shell built-in count when
"if time.found()" is evaluated?

    $ type --all time
    time is a shell keyword
    time is /usr/bin/time
    time is /bin/time

> An alternative could be to have a 'benchmarks' feature option wired up.
> This feature would be set to 'auto', and then we can detect time like
> this:
>
>     time = find_program('time', dirs: program_path, required: get_option('benchmarks'))
>
> This will then auto-enable or -disable the feature depending on the
> availability of GNU time. But if the user passes `-Dbenchmarks=enabled`,
> we would fail the setup in case the program wasn't found.

Sounds quite sensible.  Do what most users expect by default without
failing, let users give explicit preference, and when the explicitly
expressed preference cannot be fulfilled, loudly error out.  I like
it.

Thanks.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-04-24 11:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-03-31  6:16 [PATCH 0/5] meson: wire up support for benchmarks Patrick Steinhardt
2025-03-31  6:16 ` [PATCH 1/5] t/perf: fix benchmarks with alternate repo formats Patrick Steinhardt
2025-03-31  6:16 ` [PATCH 2/5] t/perf: use configured PERL_PATH Patrick Steinhardt
2025-04-10 11:43   ` Toon Claes
2025-04-14  6:50     ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-04-14 19:20       ` Junio C Hamano
2025-04-15 10:01         ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-03-31  6:16 ` [PATCH 3/5] t/perf: fix benchmarks with out-of-tree builds Patrick Steinhardt
2025-04-10 11:34   ` Toon Claes
2025-04-14  6:28     ` Toon Claes
2025-04-14  6:50       ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-03-31  6:16 ` [PATCH 4/5] meson: wire up benchmarks Patrick Steinhardt
2025-04-10 11:44   ` Toon Claes
2025-04-14  6:50     ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-04-14  9:07       ` Toon Claes
2025-03-31  6:16 ` [PATCH 5/5] meson: wire up benchmarking options Patrick Steinhardt
2025-04-14  6:51 ` [PATCH v2 0/5] meson: wire up support for benchmarks Patrick Steinhardt
2025-04-14  6:51   ` [PATCH v2 1/5] t/perf: fix benchmarks with alternate repo formats Patrick Steinhardt
2025-04-14  6:51   ` [PATCH v2 2/5] t/perf: use configured PERL_PATH Patrick Steinhardt
2025-04-14  6:51   ` [PATCH v2 3/5] t/perf: fix benchmarks with out-of-tree builds Patrick Steinhardt
2025-04-20 10:00     ` Christian Couder
2025-04-22  6:51       ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-04-14  6:51   ` [PATCH v2 4/5] meson: wire up benchmarks Patrick Steinhardt
2025-04-20 10:00     ` Christian Couder
2025-04-14  6:51   ` [PATCH v2 5/5] meson: wire up benchmarking options Patrick Steinhardt
2025-04-15 14:36   ` [PATCH v2 0/5] meson: wire up support for benchmarks Junio C Hamano
2025-04-15 18:18     ` Junio C Hamano
2025-04-16 11:00       ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-04-18 23:02         ` Junio C Hamano
2025-04-22  6:50 ` [PATCH v3 " Patrick Steinhardt
2025-04-22  6:50   ` [PATCH v3 1/5] t/perf: fix benchmarks with alternate repo formats Patrick Steinhardt
2025-04-22  6:50   ` [PATCH v3 2/5] t/perf: use configured PERL_PATH Patrick Steinhardt
2025-04-22  6:50   ` [PATCH v3 3/5] t/perf: fix benchmarks with out-of-tree builds Patrick Steinhardt
2025-04-22  6:50   ` [PATCH v3 4/5] meson: wire up benchmarks Patrick Steinhardt
2025-04-22  6:50   ` [PATCH v3 5/5] meson: wire up benchmarking options Patrick Steinhardt
2025-04-22  7:27   ` [PATCH v3 0/5] meson: wire up support for benchmarks Christian Couder
2025-04-22  7:53     ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-04-23 14:44       ` Christian Couder
2025-04-24  4:31         ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-04-24  6:28           ` Christian Couder
2025-04-24 11:13           ` Junio C Hamano [this message]
2025-04-24 13:49             ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-04-23 14:12   ` Toon Claes
2025-04-25  7:28 ` [PATCH v4 " Patrick Steinhardt
2025-04-25  7:28   ` [PATCH v4 1/5] t/perf: fix benchmarks with alternate repo formats Patrick Steinhardt
2025-04-25  7:28   ` [PATCH v4 2/5] t/perf: use configured PERL_PATH Patrick Steinhardt
2025-04-25  7:28   ` [PATCH v4 3/5] t/perf: fix benchmarks with out-of-tree builds Patrick Steinhardt
2025-04-25  7:28   ` [PATCH v4 4/5] meson: wire up benchmarks Patrick Steinhardt
2025-04-25  7:57     ` Christian Couder
2025-04-25  8:01       ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-04-25  8:09         ` Christian Couder
2025-04-25  8:27           ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-04-25  7:28   ` [PATCH v4 5/5] meson: wire up benchmarking options Patrick Steinhardt
2025-04-25  8:06   ` [PATCH v4 0/5] meson: wire up support for benchmarks Christian Couder
2025-04-25  8:26     ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-04-25  8:33       ` Christian Couder
2025-04-28  7:30 ` [PATCH v5 " Patrick Steinhardt
2025-04-28  7:30   ` [PATCH v5 1/5] t/perf: fix benchmarks with alternate repo formats Patrick Steinhardt
2025-04-28  7:30   ` [PATCH v5 2/5] t/perf: use configured PERL_PATH Patrick Steinhardt
2025-04-28  7:30   ` [PATCH v5 3/5] t/perf: fix benchmarks with out-of-tree builds Patrick Steinhardt
2025-04-28  7:30   ` [PATCH v5 4/5] meson: wire up benchmarks Patrick Steinhardt
2025-04-28  7:30   ` [PATCH v5 5/5] meson: wire up benchmarking options Patrick Steinhardt

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