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From: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
To: "Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget" <gitgitgadget@gmail.com>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org,  christian.couder@gmail.com,
	johannes.schindelin@gmx.de,  johncai86@gmail.com,
	jonathantanmy@google.com,  karthik.188@gmail.com,
	kristofferhaugsbakk@fastmail.com,  me@ttaylorr.com,
	 newren@gmail.com, peff@peff.net,  ps@pks.im,
	 Derrick Stolee <stolee@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/13] PATH WALK II: Add --path-walk option to 'git pack-objects'
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2025 10:28:22 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <xmqqwmcw7q2x.fsf@gitster.g> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <pull.1819.git.1741571455.gitgitgadget@gmail.com> (Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget's message of "Mon, 10 Mar 2025 01:50:42 +0000")

"Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget" <gitgitgadget@gmail.com> writes:

> ... deltas across path boundaries. This second pass is much faster than a fresh
> pass since the existing deltas are used as a limit for the size of
> potentially new deltas, short-circuiting the checks when the delta size
> exceeds the current-best.

Very nice.

> The microsoft/fluentui is a public Javascript repo that suffers from many of
> the name hash collisions as internal repositories I've worked with. Here is
> a comparison of the compressed size and end-to-end time of the repack:
>
> Repack Method    Pack Size       Time
> ---------------------------------------
> Hash v1             439.4M      87.24s
> Hash v2             161.7M      21.51s
> Path Walk           142.5M      28.16s
>
>
> Less dramatic, but perhaps more standardly structured is the nodejs/node
> repository, with these stats:
>
> Repack Method       Pack Size       Time
> ------------------------------------------
> Hash v1                739.9M      71.18s
> Hash v2                764.6M      67.82s
> Path Walk              698.0M      75.10s
>
>
> Even the Linux kernel repository gains some benefits, even though the number
> of hash collisions is relatively low due to a preference for short
> filenames:
>
> Repack Method       Pack Size       Time
> ------------------------------------------
> Hash v1                  2.5G     554.41s
> Hash v2                  2.5G     549.62s
> Path Walk                2.2G     559.00s

This third one, v2 not performing much better than v1, is quite
surprising.

> The drawbacks of the --path-walk feature is that it will be harder to
> integrate it with bitmap features, specifically delta islands. This is not
> insurmountable, but would require more work, such as a revision walk to
> paint objects with reachability information before using that during delta
> computations.
>
> However, there should still be significant benefits to Git clients trying to
> save space and improve local performance.

Sure.  More experiments and more approaches will eventually give us
overall improvement.  I am hoping that we will be able to condense
the result of these different approaches and their combinations into
easy-to-choose-from canned choices (as opposed to a myriad of little
knobs the users need to futz with without really understanding what
they are tweaking).

> This feature was shipped with similar features in microsoft/git as of
> v2.47.0.vfs.0.3 [4]. This was used in CI machines for an internal monorepo
> that had significant repository growth due to constructing a batch of
> beachball [5] CHANGELOG.[md|json] files and pushing them to a release
> branch. These pushes were frequently 70-200 MB due to poor delta
> compression. Using the 'pack.usePathWalk=true' config, these pushes dropped
> in size by 100x while improving performance. Since these CI machines were
> working with a shallow clone, the 'edge_aggressive' changes were required to
> enable the path-walk option.

Nice, thanks.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-03-10 17:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-03-10  1:50 [PATCH 00/13] PATH WALK II: Add --path-walk option to 'git pack-objects' Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2025-03-10  1:50 ` [PATCH 01/13] pack-objects: extract should_attempt_deltas() Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2025-03-12 21:01   ` Taylor Blau
2025-03-20 19:48     ` Derrick Stolee
2025-03-10  1:50 ` [PATCH 02/13] pack-objects: add --path-walk option Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2025-03-12 21:14   ` Taylor Blau
2025-03-20 19:46     ` Derrick Stolee
2025-03-10  1:50 ` [PATCH 03/13] pack-objects: update usage to match docs Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2025-03-12 21:14   ` Taylor Blau
2025-03-10  1:50 ` [PATCH 04/13] p5313: add performance tests for --path-walk Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2025-03-10  1:50 ` [PATCH 05/13] pack-objects: introduce GIT_TEST_PACK_PATH_WALK Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2025-03-10  1:50 ` [PATCH 06/13] t5538: add tests to confirm deltas in shallow pushes Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2025-03-10  1:50 ` [PATCH 07/13] repack: add --path-walk option Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2025-03-10  1:50 ` [PATCH 08/13] pack-objects: enable --path-walk via config Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2025-03-10  1:50 ` [PATCH 09/13] scalar: enable path-walk during push " Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2025-03-10  1:50 ` [PATCH 10/13] pack-objects: refactor path-walk delta phase Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2025-03-12 21:21   ` Taylor Blau
2025-03-20 19:57     ` Derrick Stolee
2025-03-10  1:50 ` [PATCH 11/13] pack-objects: thread the path-based compression Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2025-03-10  1:50 ` [PATCH 12/13] path-walk: add new 'edge_aggressive' option Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2025-03-10  1:50 ` [PATCH 13/13] pack-objects: allow --shallow and --path-walk Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2025-03-10 17:28 ` Junio C Hamano [this message]
2025-03-12 20:47   ` [PATCH 00/13] PATH WALK II: Add --path-walk option to 'git pack-objects' Taylor Blau
2025-03-20 20:18     ` Derrick Stolee
2025-03-24 15:22 ` [PATCH v2 " Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2025-03-24 15:22   ` [PATCH v2 01/13] pack-objects: extract should_attempt_deltas() Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2025-05-02 22:48     ` Taylor Blau
2025-03-24 15:22   ` [PATCH v2 02/13] pack-objects: add --path-walk option Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2025-05-02 23:21     ` Taylor Blau
2025-05-06 19:39       ` Derrick Stolee
2025-05-16 15:27         ` Derrick Stolee
2025-03-24 15:22   ` [PATCH v2 03/13] pack-objects: update usage to match docs Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2025-03-24 15:22   ` [PATCH v2 04/13] p5313: add performance tests for --path-walk Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2025-05-02 23:25     ` Taylor Blau
2025-03-24 15:22   ` [PATCH v2 05/13] pack-objects: introduce GIT_TEST_PACK_PATH_WALK Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2025-05-02 23:31     ` Taylor Blau
2025-05-06 19:43       ` Derrick Stolee
2025-03-24 15:22   ` [PATCH v2 06/13] t5538: add tests to confirm deltas in shallow pushes Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2025-05-02 23:34     ` Taylor Blau
2025-05-16 15:32       ` Derrick Stolee
2025-03-24 15:22   ` [PATCH v2 07/13] repack: add --path-walk option Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2025-05-02 23:38     ` Taylor Blau
2025-03-24 15:22   ` [PATCH v2 08/13] pack-objects: enable --path-walk via config Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2025-05-02 23:42     ` Taylor Blau
2025-05-06 19:46       ` Derrick Stolee
2025-05-16 15:41         ` Derrick Stolee
2025-03-24 15:22   ` [PATCH v2 09/13] scalar: enable path-walk during push " Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2025-05-07  0:58     ` Taylor Blau
2025-03-24 15:22   ` [PATCH v2 10/13] pack-objects: refactor path-walk delta phase Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2025-05-07  1:14     ` Taylor Blau
2025-05-16 16:27       ` Derrick Stolee
2025-05-29  0:17         ` Taylor Blau
2025-03-24 15:22   ` [PATCH v2 11/13] pack-objects: thread the path-based compression Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2025-05-07  1:33     ` Taylor Blau
2025-03-24 15:22   ` [PATCH v2 12/13] path-walk: add new 'edge_aggressive' option Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2025-03-24 15:22   ` [PATCH v2 13/13] pack-objects: allow --shallow and --path-walk Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2025-05-02 21:24   ` [PATCH v2 00/13] PATH WALK II: Add --path-walk option to 'git pack-objects' Junio C Hamano
2025-05-02 22:45     ` Taylor Blau
2025-05-02 23:44       ` Taylor Blau
2025-05-07  1:35         ` Taylor Blau
2025-05-16 18:11   ` [PATCH v3 " Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2025-05-16 18:11     ` [PATCH v3 01/13] pack-objects: extract should_attempt_deltas() Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2025-05-16 18:11     ` [PATCH v3 02/13] pack-objects: add --path-walk option Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2025-05-16 18:11     ` [PATCH v3 03/13] pack-objects: update usage to match docs Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2025-05-16 18:11     ` [PATCH v3 04/13] p5313: add performance tests for --path-walk Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2025-05-16 18:11     ` [PATCH v3 05/13] pack-objects: introduce GIT_TEST_PACK_PATH_WALK Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2025-05-16 18:11     ` [PATCH v3 06/13] t5538: add tests to confirm deltas in shallow pushes Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2025-05-16 18:11     ` [PATCH v3 07/13] repack: add --path-walk option Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2025-05-16 18:11     ` [PATCH v3 08/13] pack-objects: enable --path-walk via config Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2025-05-16 18:11     ` [PATCH v3 09/13] scalar: enable path-walk during push " Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2025-05-16 18:12     ` [PATCH v3 10/13] pack-objects: refactor path-walk delta phase Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2025-05-16 18:12     ` [PATCH v3 11/13] pack-objects: thread the path-based compression Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2025-05-16 18:12     ` [PATCH v3 12/13] path-walk: add new 'edge_aggressive' option Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2025-05-16 18:12     ` [PATCH v3 13/13] pack-objects: allow --shallow and --path-walk Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2025-05-29  0:20     ` [PATCH v3 00/13] PATH WALK II: Add --path-walk option to 'git pack-objects' Taylor Blau

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