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From: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
To: Jonathan Nieder <jrnieder@gmail.com>
Cc: "Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason" <avarab@gmail.com>,
	"Emily Shaffer" <emilyshaffer@google.com>,
	git@vger.kernel.org, "Albert Cui" <albertcui@google.com>,
	"Phillip Wood" <phillip.wood123@gmail.com>,
	"Johannes Schindelin" <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de>,
	"Matheus Tavares Bernardino" <matheus.bernardino@usp.br>,
	"Jacob Keller" <jacob.keller@gmail.com>,
	"Atharva Raykar" <raykar.ath@gmail.com>,
	"Derrick Stolee" <stolee@gmail.com>,
	"Jonathan Tan" <jonathantanmy@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 0/5] teach submodules to know they're submodules
Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2022 10:24:49 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <xmqqy22lcj2m.fsf@gitster.g> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YgHE4iaV8QHRw64U@google.com> (Jonathan Nieder's message of "Mon, 7 Feb 2022 17:18:26 -0800")

Jonathan Nieder <jrnieder@gmail.com> writes:

> My point with this example is that it's useful to have a definition of
> what is a submodule repository, to make it unambiguous whether this
> repository is a submodule or whether it's just a repository that
> happens to have been cloned inside of a git-managed worktree.

OK, together with the other "no need to let NFS automounter worry
about parent directories", it makes a very successful argument for a
single bit (i.e. this is a free-standing repository and is not a
submodule, so no need to auto-discover if it is one).  I think the
"Alternatively" you later mention to solve ambiguity with just a
single bit, without "this is a submodule of that superproject"
linkage, is essentially the same?

But I do not think it argues for the need to say "a config, not
filesystem layout, must be the single source of truth to say which
superproject this repository belongs as its submodule".

> This would be the first time in git history that we are saying a
> property of a repository depends on having to examine files outside of
> it.

Well, path-based configuration inclusion, with configuration driven
hooks, I do not think the distinction matters much anymore in these
days.

> I guess the main question I'd have is, why _wouldn't_ I want a
> submodule to be able to point to the superproject containing it?

Because with (the absense of) a single "this is freestanding" bit, 
by default the filesystem layout can already "point" at it?

  reply	other threads:[~2022-02-08 18:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-11-17  0:56 [PATCH v6 0/5] teach submodules to know they're submodules Emily Shaffer
2021-11-17  0:56 ` [PATCH v6 1/5] t7400-submodule-basic: modernize inspect() helper Emily Shaffer
2021-11-17  0:56 ` [PATCH v6 2/5] introduce submodule.superprojectGitDir record Emily Shaffer
2021-11-17 23:43   ` Jonathan Tan
2021-11-17  0:56 ` [PATCH v6 3/5] submodule: record superproject gitdir during absorbgitdirs Emily Shaffer
2021-11-17  0:57 ` [PATCH v6 4/5] submodule: record superproject gitdir during 'update' Emily Shaffer
2021-11-17  0:57 ` [PATCH v6 5/5] submodule: use config to find superproject worktree Emily Shaffer
2021-11-17 11:43 ` [RFC PATCH 0/2] submodule: test what happens if submodule.superprojectGitDir isn't around Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-17 11:43   ` [RFC PATCH 1/2] submodule tests: fix potentially broken "config .. --unset" Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-17 11:43   ` [RFC PATCH 2/2] submodule: add test mode for checking absence of "superProjectGitDir" Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-23 20:08   ` [RFC PATCH 0/2] submodule: test what happens if submodule.superprojectGitDir isn't around Emily Shaffer
2021-11-24  1:38     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-17 23:28 ` [PATCH v6 0/5] teach submodules to know they're submodules Jonathan Tan
2021-11-23 20:28   ` Emily Shaffer
2022-02-03 21:59 ` Emily Shaffer
2022-02-03 21:59   ` [PATCH v7 1/4] t7400-submodule-basic: modernize inspect() helper Emily Shaffer
2022-02-03 21:59   ` [PATCH v7 2/4] introduce submodule.superprojectGitDir record Emily Shaffer
2022-02-03 21:59   ` [PATCH v7 3/4] submodule: record superproject gitdir during absorbgitdirs Emily Shaffer
2022-02-03 21:59   ` [PATCH v7 4/4] submodule: record superproject gitdir during 'update' Emily Shaffer
2022-02-03 22:39   ` [PATCH v6 0/5] teach submodules to know they're submodules Junio C Hamano
2022-02-04  1:15   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-02-04 16:20     ` Junio C Hamano
2022-02-07 19:56     ` Jonathan Nieder
2022-02-07 23:21       ` Junio C Hamano
2022-02-08  1:18         ` Jonathan Nieder
2022-02-08 18:24           ` Junio C Hamano [this message]
2022-02-10 22:12             ` Emily Shaffer
2022-02-10 22:53               ` Jonathan Nieder
2022-02-12 20:35       ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-02-13  6:25         ` Junio C Hamano
2022-03-01  0:26   ` [PATCH v8 0/3] " Emily Shaffer
2022-03-01  0:26     ` [PATCH v8 1/3] t7400-submodule-basic: modernize inspect() helper Emily Shaffer
2022-03-01  0:26     ` [PATCH v8 2/3] introduce submodule.hasSuperproject record Emily Shaffer
2022-03-01  7:00       ` Junio C Hamano
2022-03-08 20:04         ` Emily Shaffer
2022-03-08 22:13       ` Glen Choo
2022-03-08 22:29         ` Glen Choo
2022-03-01  0:26     ` [PATCH v8 3/3] rev-parse: short-circuit superproject worktree when config unset Emily Shaffer
2022-03-01  7:06       ` Junio C Hamano
2022-03-09  0:38         ` Emily Shaffer
2022-03-01  3:08     ` [PATCH v8 0/3] teach submodules to know they're submodules Junio C Hamano
2022-03-08 18:54       ` Emily Shaffer
2022-03-10  0:44     ` [PATCH v9 " Emily Shaffer
2022-03-10  0:44       ` [PATCH v9 1/3] t7400-submodule-basic: modernize inspect() helper Emily Shaffer
2022-03-10  0:44       ` [PATCH v9 2/3] introduce submodule.hasSuperproject record Emily Shaffer
2022-03-10  2:09         ` Junio C Hamano
2022-03-10 21:29           ` Glen Choo
2022-03-10 21:40           ` Glen Choo
2022-03-10 22:10             ` Junio C Hamano
2022-03-10 23:42               ` Glen Choo
2022-03-10 23:53                 ` Glen Choo
2022-03-15 20:48                   ` Emily Shaffer
2022-03-15 20:56                     ` Emily Shaffer
2022-03-15 21:19                       ` Glen Choo
2022-03-15 18:39               ` Emily Shaffer
2022-03-15 19:19                 ` Junio C Hamano
2022-03-10  2:32         ` Junio C Hamano
2022-03-10 21:54         ` Glen Choo
2022-03-15 18:27           ` Emily Shaffer
2022-03-10  0:44       ` [PATCH v9 3/3] rev-parse: short-circuit superproject worktree when config unset Emily Shaffer
2022-03-10  1:47         ` Junio C Hamano
2022-03-10  4:39           ` Eric Sunshine
2022-03-11  9:09       ` [PATCH v9 0/3] teach submodules to know they're submodules Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-03-13  5:43         ` Junio C Hamano

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